10 year old girl Rapes 4 year old boy

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Fenris Frost

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Oh and as a final note te whole thing was sustained by severe threats to keep quiet and to allow it to continue. Because he was fully aware of what he was doing. As I imagine this girl was. This whole thread has been triggering not because of the original content but because of the responses that this girl is somehow blameless. Be glad it never happened to you, and don't dismiss someone else's experience because you assume all children are innocent. Following my own experience I tried to kill myself. An experience that was not unique but which has repeated itself along with other long term psychological problems. I saw someone related to that time (but not the abuser himself) and it gave me a panic attack. I couldn't leave the house for days after.
 

chadachada123

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Fenris Frost said:
You people are utterly wrong about this, and I speak from experience. I was abused by a boy who was eleven at the time, myself a couple of years younger and I can tell you it has scarred me for life. The memories of the incident will stay with me forever, It was accompanied by threats, violence and force over several months. For you to dismiss it as 'playng doctor' only demonstrates your ignorance. It is deeply offensive to see you all act so dismissively without any of the facts and personally, I think she deserves to be punished. If you think her crying is some tragedy, you have no idea of the impact this episode could have on the boy. Don't presume to know the lasting effect because I assure you, it has the potential to be very damaging. To a certain extent I would say that what happened to me will hurt me for the rest of my life.

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Oh and as a final note te whole thing was sustained by severe threats to keep quiet and to allow it to continue. Because he was fully aware of what he was doing. As I imagine this girl was. This whole thread has been triggering not because of the original content but because of the responses that this girl is somehow blameless. Be glad it never happened to you, and don't dismiss someone else's experience because you assume all children are innocent. Following my own experience I tried to kill myself. An experience that was not unique but which has repeated itself along with other long term psychological problems. I saw someone related to that time (but not the abuser himself) and it gave me a panic attack. I couldn't leave the house for days after.
Nice to know that every case is just like yours, and not like the majority of cases where there is no lasting trauma.

My first (french) kiss was with a girl several years older than me (about 5 and 8 years old, me and her), and I'm not bothered by it in the slightest. I also fooled around with a neighbor and a relative, including getting a blowjob, seriously, at probably 6 years old. And all of us grew out of it pretty damn normally.

Is there evidence of threats or force or violence here? Maybe, maybe not. Is there evidence of lasting damage to the boy? There doesn't appear to be, though getting the police involved is DEFINITELY going to harm him worse than just keeping it among neighborhood adults.

It could very well be (and, statistically-speaking, probably was) just playing doctor, which by itself is part of normal development of kids.

Don't be hypocritical by saying that we don't know how the kid feels and then immediately assert that he must feel like you do. He could end up lamenting that she got caught for all we know.

Without evidence of force/coercion, it's wrong to assume that there was either.
 

Subscriptism

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cahtush said:
Wait, can you even charge a 9 year old?
At least in Sweden you have to be 15 to be charged with anything.
Don't know about where this took place but in the UK it's only 10.
 

Subscriptism

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cahtush said:
Wait, can you even charge a 9 year old?
At least in Sweden you have to be 15 to be charged with anything.
Don't know about where this took place but in the UK it's only 10.
 

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Master of the Skies said:
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Master of the Skies said:
I'm not seeing the evidence that most girls start it by 9. In fact a quick look at wiki says if it starts before that recent sources say it should be investigated(while older one say before 10). So right on the borderline doesn't seem very likely to be the most common age.
Tell that to all the 4th and 5th graders who have tampons in their backpacks, or the poor girls who aren't taught about it because "They're too young" so they just sit awkwardly in class wondering why they're the only ones that smell funny.
Free lesson: Just because it can happen doesn't mean that it's the most common case.

Now feel free to try again.
I never claimed it's the most common case, but that doesn't mean it isn't the case in this situation. That doesn't necessarily mean it is the case either. I'm not saying I know what the case is, because we have no details, I'm only saying we can't rule anything out.

People are saying girls don't get their periods in elementary school. I'm saying that's not true.

You just disproved a point I never made and called it a lesson, then asked me to try "again" in reference to something I never tried in the first place.

EDIT: I re-read the post to which I originally responded and I see now why my point was irrelevant. Who's the goofy goober now? This girl... :3
 

Fenris Frost

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Subscriptism said:
cahtush said:
Wait, can you even charge a 9 year old?
At least in Sweden you have to be 15 to be charged with anything.
Don't know about where this took place but in the UK it's only 10.
Nice to know, apropos of nothing, that nothing like that was involved. Innocent until proven guilty, perhaps. But she was found guilty.
 

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Hmmm. It seems this is being sensationalised. By the sound of things she just got a bit too curious and fondled the 4 year-old, some busy-body saw it and decided that it was much worse than it really was. A 10 year old girl is barely even sexually aware in the same way adults are, if not at all.
 

CFriis87

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Bara_no_Hime said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Misleading title is misleading...
What do you do to a curious little girl? Charge her with sexual assault is what you do! That's sure to alleviate the issue with the least amount of stress on the child.
I'm not saying what she did was right, she should certainly be punished, but it should be in way she can understand and one that doesn't scar her for life.
Quoted for Truth.

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with people? That girl had no idea that what she was doing was wrong. Don't punish her like an adult for doing something stupid and almost entirely harmless.

Ugh. The news today is just... ugh.

**goes to play more Saints Row 4 to cleanse pallet**
She shoved two fingers up a 4 year old's anus while fondling his genitals.
"That girl had no idea that what she was doing was wrong."
Yeeeeah-no...

She shoved two fingers up a 4 year old's anus while fondling his genitals.
"...doing something stupid and almost entirely harmless."
Yeeeeah-no...
 

CFriis87

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Headsprouter said:
Hmmm. It seems this is being sensationalised. By the sound of things she just got a bit too curious and fondled the 4 year-old, some busy-body saw it and decided that it was much worse than it really was. A 10 year old girl is barely even sexually aware in the same way adults are, if not at all.
She also had two fingers up his anus... so no.
 

CFriis87

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chadachada123 said:
Fenris Frost said:
You people are utterly wrong about this, and I speak from experience. I was abused by a boy who was eleven at the time, myself a couple of years younger and I can tell you it has scarred me for life. The memories of the incident will stay with me forever, It was accompanied by threats, violence and force over several months. For you to dismiss it as 'playng doctor' only demonstrates your ignorance. It is deeply offensive to see you all act so dismissively without any of the facts and personally, I think she deserves to be punished. If you think her crying is some tragedy, you have no idea of the impact this episode could have on the boy. Don't presume to know the lasting effect because I assure you, it has the potential to be very damaging. To a certain extent I would say that what happened to me will hurt me for the rest of my life.

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Oh and as a final note te whole thing was sustained by severe threats to keep quiet and to allow it to continue. Because he was fully aware of what he was doing. As I imagine this girl was. This whole thread has been triggering not because of the original content but because of the responses that this girl is somehow blameless. Be glad it never happened to you, and don't dismiss someone else's experience because you assume all children are innocent. Following my own experience I tried to kill myself. An experience that was not unique but which has repeated itself along with other long term psychological problems. I saw someone related to that time (but not the abuser himself) and it gave me a panic attack. I couldn't leave the house for days after.
Nice to know that every case is just like yours, and not like the majority of cases where there is no lasting trauma.

My first (french) kiss was with a girl several years older than me (about 5 and 8 years old, me and her), and I'm not bothered by it in the slightest. I also fooled around with a neighbor and a relative, including getting a blowjob, seriously, at probably 6 years old. And all of us grew out of it pretty damn normally.

Is there evidence of threats or force or violence here? Maybe, maybe not. Is there evidence of lasting damage to the boy? There doesn't appear to be, though getting the police involved is DEFINITELY going to harm him worse than just keeping it among neighborhood adults.

It could very well be (and, statistically-speaking, probably was) just playing doctor, which by itself is part of normal development of kids.

Don't be hypocritical by saying that we don't know how the kid feels and then immediately assert that he must feel like you do. He could end up lamenting that she got caught for all we know.

Without evidence of force/coercion, it's wrong to assume that there was either.
I've never played doctor myself, so I might be wrong here, but here goes:
A ten year old girl shoving two fingers up a four year old boy's anus while fondling his genitals is NOT playing doctor.
 

Quellist

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The worlds gone mad if a little kid playing doctor with another little kid is being charged with aggravated rape, If any of this stuff about what she was actually doing is true then it wasnt doctor but personally i have my doubts.

If a little kid really was doing -those things- (sorry but i dont want to write it, it makes me queasy just thinking of a kid doing that) then theres something seriously wrong with her.
 

CFriis87

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Quellist said:
The worlds gone mad if a little kid playing doctor with another little kid is being charged with aggravated rape, End of story
Well.. she did shove two fingers up a 4-year-old boys anus... by the legal definition of rape, that makes it rape.
Now, if she'd done it in the UK in stead of the US, she wouldn't have been charged with rape, since UK laws define rape to be penetration by "the man's penis".
Meaning legally, only men can perpetrate rape in the UK.
 

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CFriis87 said:
Quellist said:
The worlds gone mad if a little kid playing doctor with another little kid is being charged with aggravated rape, End of story
Well.. she did shove two fingers up a 4-year-old boys anus... by the legal definition of rape, that makes it rape.
Yeah, i reread that and edited my post, i think the first time i read it i was so shocked i blanked it, seriously...ewww

And normally, i'm not an easily shocked person
 

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CFriis87 said:
Quellist said:
The worlds gone mad if a little kid playing doctor with another little kid is being charged with aggravated rape, End of story
Well.. she did shove two fingers up a 4-year-old boys anus... by the legal definition of rape, that makes it rape.
I too expressed in my original post how miffed I was that people were actually condoning what this girl did and seemed to be laughing it off as childish fun, I mean she's 10 not a toddler and by ten you know right from wrong, and if she really did have fingers stuck up his anus then that's pretty disgusting and I hope they they throw the book at her, that or that she gets some serious help.
 

CFriis87

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Quellist said:
CFriis87 said:
Quellist said:
The worlds gone mad if a little kid playing doctor with another little kid is being charged with aggravated rape, End of story
Well.. she did shove two fingers up a 4-year-old boys anus... by the legal definition of rape, that makes it rape.
Yeah, i reread that and edited my post, i think the first time i read it i was so shocked i blanked it, seriously...ewww

And normally, i'm not an easily shocked person
Yep... it's the only reason she was actually charged with rape in stead of just sexual assault.
Anal stimulation is alright with me, but doing it to a boy that young is just reprehensible.
 

CFriis87

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Jamieson 90 said:
CFriis87 said:
Quellist said:
The worlds gone mad if a little kid playing doctor with another little kid is being charged with aggravated rape, End of story
Well.. she did shove two fingers up a 4-year-old boys anus... by the legal definition of rape, that makes it rape.
I too expressed in my original post how miffed I was that people were actually condoning what this girl did and seemed to be laughing it off as childish fun, I mean she's 10 not a toddler and by ten you know right from wrong, and if she really did have fingers stuck up his anus then that's pretty disgusting and I hope they they throw the book at her, that or that she gets some serious help.
I'd certainly want the authorities to seriously investigate her family. I'd say there's something wrong in the family for her to even know about anally stimulating boys. Either that or she's been on the internet too much.
 

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The fact she's a sexually aware 10 year old girl and he's a 4 year old toddler means it's an exertion of power and predatory behavior by default. But you know he's a boy, he can't get raped. (sarcasm)