10 year old girl Rapes 4 year old boy

[Amir Kondori]

Aaah... the Good Ol' US of A, setting a fine example for the rest of the world since 1776....

This is the lamest kind of argument I have ever heard. You sick things happen everywhere in the world that humans exist, right? We could talk about the village in African that kills all newborn twins. Or the guy in Europe who was raping his daughter and fathered a bunch of children by them. Or the abuses that were happening in Egypt. Etc.

This is by no means unique to the US.

 

[Colour Scientist]

But you know he's a boy, he can't get raped. (sarcasm)

Not one single person has suggested that.

Not on this thread, but yes that ideology is pretty common now.

Where?

I've seen a small number of people claim that this thought exists but I have never once seen or heard someone argue that boys or men can't be raped. Ever.

"Pretty common"?
Seriously?

 

[rasputin0009]

I wouldn't doubt that the girl was sexually abused by someone else in her life. Could have even happened just recently before this. An investigation from child services wouldn't be all that bad an idea. A better idea than calling the fucking police.

Off-topic, the mods are getting real horny (not an insult to the mods, just an expression) off this thread. I saw like 5 suspensions/warnings on the first page alone.

The question here is not why, the crime was committed or where she learned this behavior. The question is ?did she do it?? If there is enough proof to charge her of committing the crime, the question is ?should she be charges as an adult or a juvenile?. If tried as a juvenile, the punishment should be appropriate to the punishment prescribed by law. The question should NEVER be ?should we turn our head because of her age?? Rape is rape and there is NEVER a justification. If convicted, she must pay for the crime.
An investigation may find her parents or someone else should also be charged with committing other crimes. If so they should also be arrested and charged.

Ya, it is a question of why she committed the crime, if you want to rehabilitate her so that she doesn't do it again later in life. But if you want to scar her for life by punishing her with jail, or prison, she's more likely to commit the crime again (especially when it comes to crimes of sexual nature). When it comes to children, punishment is not justice.

 

[SanguiniusMagnificum]

Aaah... the Good Ol' US of A, setting a fine example for the rest of the world since 1776....

This is the lamest kind of argument I have ever heard. You sick things happen everywhere in the world that humans exist, right? We could talk about the village in African that kills all newborn twins. Or the guy in Europe who was raping his daughter and fathered a bunch of children by them. Or the abuses that were happening in Egypt. Etc.

This is by no means unique to the US.

I'm sorry, I should have clarified this a little bit. My jab was meant at the police and in general, the justice system. Interrogating a 10 year old for 45 minutes and then putting her in juvenile detention for 4 days... And all of that because she and some other kids were "playing doctor", a game that involves physical contact, sometimes even in the more "sensitive" regions of the body? Yeah, I don't know if that kind of treatment is supposed to be normal in the land of the free and the brave...

 

[Pyramid Head]

I can easily do it without demeaning you, it's just that you are making that part too easy.

You said this is just a curious girl. My point was that ten year olds are to the point where they can consciously understand that it's wrong to take advantage of smaller kids. We are talking about a very big age difference. You are presenting it as if it's a harmless game kids play.

He was four, she was ten. She was taking advantage of him, it should be dealt with instead of just letting it go and letting her develop knowing that society thinks it's ok.

Okay Mr. Psychic, how do you know it was sexually charged? How do you know she was taking advantage of him? Do you have any evidence for why we should treat this child as a rapist? Are you actually a child psychiatrist and expert on sex crimes behind your rantings about misandry and bad arguments?

 

[Jamieson 90]

But you know he's a boy, he can't get raped. (sarcasm)

Not one single person has suggested that.

Not on this thread, but yes that ideology is pretty common now.

Where?

I've seen a small number of people claim that this thought exists but I have never once seen or heard someone argue that boys or men can't be raped. Ever.

"Pretty common"?
Seriously?

In support of the notion that people think that that boys can't be raped or sexually abused, I've seen a fare few people here on these very forums argue that point, with the whole "They wouldn't be hard if they didn't want it," argument being used despite it being scientifically proven that you will become aroused if stimulated enough regardless of whether you want it or not.

It's not just here on the forums though, it's in the media; remember when those hyenas on Loose Women were laughing at that poor man who had his penis cut off by his girlfriend? Yeah you heard that right she cut off his penis and women on a program that was broadcast on national television were laughing at him, along with pretty much all the women in the audience, yet if a man were to cut off a woman's breasts or mutilate her vagina the shitstorm that would follow would be of epic proportions, and if men laughed at her they'd be demonized to the very pits of Hell.

 

[Jamieson 90]

I can easily do it without demeaning you, it's just that you are making that part too easy.

You said this is just a curious girl. My point was that ten year olds are to the point where they can consciously understand that it's wrong to take advantage of smaller kids. We are talking about a very big age difference. You are presenting it as if it's a harmless game kids play.

He was four, she was ten. She was taking advantage of him, it should be dealt with instead of just letting it go and letting her develop knowing that society thinks it's ok.

Okay Mr. Psychic, how do you know it was sexually charged? How do you know she was taking advantage of him? Do you have any evidence for why we should treat this child as a rapist? Are you actually a child psychiatrist and expert on sex crimes behind your rantings about misandry and bad arguments?

She, a 10 year old girl, had two of her fingers stuck up a 4 year old boy's anus, so no I don't think that constitutes her merely being 'just curious', I mean how did that idea even enter her head? So I'm with Carpenter here.

 

[Colour Scientist]

But you know he's a boy, he can't get raped. (sarcasm)

Not one single person has suggested that.

Not on this thread, but yes that ideology is pretty common now.

Where?

I've seen a small number of people claim that this thought exists but I have never once seen or heard someone argue that boys or men can't be raped. Ever.

"Pretty common"?
Seriously?

In support of the notion that people think that that boys can't be raped or sexually abused, I've seen a fare few people here on these very forums argue that point, with the whole "They wouldn't be hard if they didn't want it," argument being used despite it being scientifically proven that you will become aroused if stimulated enough regardless of whether you want it or not.

It's not just here on the forums though, it's in the media; remember when those hyenas on Loose Women were laughing at that poor man who had his penis cut off by his girlfriend? Yeah you heard that right she cut off his penis and women on a program that was broadcast on national television were laughing at him, along with pretty much all the woman in the audience, yet if a man were to cut off a woman's breasts or mutilate her vagina the shitstorm that would follow would be of epic proportions, and if men laughed at her they'd be demonized to the very pits of Hell.

First of all, that's the idea that men can't be raped by women, not men can't be raped.
Secondly, I remember that thread and there were like two guys who had that opinion. A handful of anonymous arseholes on a forum is not "pretty common".

Secondly, that Loose Women story has nothing to do with the idea that men can't be raped. It's awful and created uproar, which it deserved, but it's not relevant now.
Edit: I'd also like to point out that after that incident "a shitstorm of epic proportions" DID happen. It was everywhere and people were incredibly angry so I don't know why your suggesting that everyone found it hilarious and nothing else was said about it.

 

[Jamieson 90]

But you know he's a boy, he can't get raped. (sarcasm)

Not one single person has suggested that.

Not on this thread, but yes that ideology is pretty common now.

Where?

I've seen a small number of people claim that this thought exists but I have never once seen or heard someone argue that boys or men can't be raped. Ever.

"Pretty common"?
Seriously?

In support of the notion that people think that that boys can't be raped or sexually abused, I've seen a fare few people here on these very forums argue that point, with the whole "They wouldn't be hard if they didn't want it," argument being used despite it being scientifically proven that you will become aroused if stimulated enough regardless of whether you want it or not.

It's not just here on the forums though, it's in the media; remember when those hyenas on Loose Women were laughing at that poor man who had his penis cut off by his girlfriend? Yeah you heard that right she cut off his penis and women on a program that was broadcast on national television were laughing at him, along with pretty much all the woman in the audience, yet if a man were to cut off a woman's breasts or mutilate her vagina the shitstorm that would follow would be of epic proportions, and if men laughed at her they'd be demonized to the very pits of Hell.

First of all, that's the idea that men can't be raped by women, not men can't be raped.
Secondly, I remember that thread and there were like two guys who had that opinion. A handful of anonymous arseholes on a forum is not "pretty common".

Secondly, that Loose Women story has nothing to do with the idea that men can't be raped. It's awful and created uproar, which it deserved, but it's not relevant now.

I remember it being a bit more than just two, but hey maybe my memory is fuzzy. As for the Loose Women incident no it's not directly related to rape, but it is very connected to the idea that men/boys can't be wronged by women/girls, which is heavily connected to this thread since we're discussing an incident where a girl sexually abused a young boy, which I think is very significant since there seem to be many posting in this thread who see this as mere childish fun when I think it's much more sinister.

 

[Pyramid Head]

I can easily do it without demeaning you, it's just that you are making that part too easy.

You said this is just a curious girl. My point was that ten year olds are to the point where they can consciously understand that it's wrong to take advantage of smaller kids. We are talking about a very big age difference. You are presenting it as if it's a harmless game kids play.

He was four, she was ten. She was taking advantage of him, it should be dealt with instead of just letting it go and letting her develop knowing that society thinks it's ok.

Okay Mr. Psychic, how do you know it was sexually charged? How do you know she was taking advantage of him? Do you have any evidence for why we should treat this child as a rapist? Are you actually a child psychiatrist and expert on sex crimes behind your rantings about misandry and bad arguments?

She, a 10 year old girl, had two of her fingers stuck up a 4 year old boy's anus, so no I don't think that constitutes her merely being 'just curious', I mean how did that idea even enter her head? So I'm with Carpenter here.

Where in the fuck did you hear that little bit of information?

 

[rasputin0009]

I wouldn't doubt that the girl was sexually abused by someone else in her life. Could have even happened just recently before this. An investigation from child services wouldn't be all that bad an idea. A better idea than calling the fucking police.

Off-topic, the mods are getting real horny (not an insult to the mods, just an expression) off this thread. I saw like 5 suspensions/warnings on the first page alone.

Again if this was a boy nobody would be saying "oh he's probably the one being abused, let's look into this" and that's the problem I have with this.

It's like when a female adult admits to having sex with young students. Nobody calls it rape (it is) and people do nothing but make excuses for her. It's sick.

Someone should just go kill all of them.

Whoa, horse, slow down. I was just speculating on why she might be sexually assaulting someone. It matters not what gender this child's was to me, I would have stated the same thing if she was a boy.

"Someone should just go kill all of them."

Umm... nevermind, I thought I was listening to someone rational, but I guess not.

 

[CFriis87]

But you know he's a boy, he can't get raped. (sarcasm)

Not one single person has suggested that.

Not on this thread, but yes that ideology is pretty common now.

Where?

I've seen a small number of people claim that this thought exists but I have never once seen or heard someone argue that boys or men can't be raped. Ever.

"Pretty common"?
Seriously?

You may want to look up Mary P. Koss, the feminist whose views on male rape victims determined the CDC's definition of rape in their NISVS survey, and the largest feminist organisation in the world (N.O.W.) lobbying for keeping the definitions of rape the way they are, so male victims still can't be recognized as rape victims and female rapists still can't be recognized as rapists.

 

[CFriis87]

I can easily do it without demeaning you, it's just that you are making that part too easy.

You said this is just a curious girl. My point was that ten year olds are to the point where they can consciously understand that it's wrong to take advantage of smaller kids. We are talking about a very big age difference. You are presenting it as if it's a harmless game kids play.

He was four, she was ten. She was taking advantage of him, it should be dealt with instead of just letting it go and letting her develop knowing that society thinks it's ok.

Okay Mr. Psychic, how do you know it was sexually charged? How do you know she was taking advantage of him? Do you have any evidence for why we should treat this child as a rapist? Are you actually a child psychiatrist and expert on sex crimes behind your rantings about misandry and bad arguments?

She, a 10 year old girl, had two of her fingers stuck up a 4 year old boy's anus, so no I don't think that constitutes her merely being 'just curious', I mean how did that idea even enter her head? So I'm with Carpenter here.

Where in the fuck did you hear that little bit of information?

She was charged with rape... you can't actually charge a girl with raping a boy unless she sodomized him, I'm assuming this was done with fingers or an object, and fingers is the most likely possibility.

 

[Pyramid Head]

I can easily do it without demeaning you, it's just that you are making that part too easy.

You said this is just a curious girl. My point was that ten year olds are to the point where they can consciously understand that it's wrong to take advantage of smaller kids. We are talking about a very big age difference. You are presenting it as if it's a harmless game kids play.

He was four, she was ten. She was taking advantage of him, it should be dealt with instead of just letting it go and letting her develop knowing that society thinks it's ok.

Okay Mr. Psychic, how do you know it was sexually charged? How do you know she was taking advantage of him? Do you have any evidence for why we should treat this child as a rapist? Are you actually a child psychiatrist and expert on sex crimes behind your rantings about misandry and bad arguments?

She, a 10 year old girl, had two of her fingers stuck up a 4 year old boy's anus, so no I don't think that constitutes her merely being 'just curious', I mean how did that idea even enter her head? So I'm with Carpenter here.

Where in the fuck did you hear that little bit of information?

She was charged with rape... you can't actually charge a girl with raping a boy unless she sodomized him, I'm assuming this was done with fingers or an object, and fingers is the most likely possibility.

So what you're saying is i was lied to, it was never stated by a real information source, it was just something he made up? Lovely.

 

[TakerFoxx]

All right, so I've read and reread the article, I've watched the video, I've looked up other articles on this story, and I'm still scratching my head as to where this "two fingers up the boy's anus" thing came from, because it's been mentioned by several people in this thread, as well as people commenting on the articles, but doesn't seem to be showing up in the reports themselves. Each one just says she touched him inappropriately, but they don't go into detail. So, is it just several people somehow making the exact same assumption, am I blind and somehow missed it every time, or was there a leak that the official sources aren't picking up on?

 

[Pyramid Head]

All right, so I've read and reread the article, I've watched the video, I've looked up other articles on this story, and I'm still scratching my head as to where this "two fingers up the boy's anus" thing came from, because it's been mentioned by several people in this thread, as well as people commenting on the articles, but doesn't seem to be showing up in the reports themselves. Each one just says she touched him inappropriately, but they don't go into detail. So, is it just several people somehow making the exact same assumption, am I blind and somehow missed it every time, or was there a leak that the official sources aren't picking up on?

I spotted a Facebook comment on the article making the same allegation about the girl fingering the boy, but all signs are pointing to it being a lie.

 

[CFriis87]

I can easily do it without demeaning you, it's just that you are making that part too easy.

You said this is just a curious girl. My point was that ten year olds are to the point where they can consciously understand that it's wrong to take advantage of smaller kids. We are talking about a very big age difference. You are presenting it as if it's a harmless game kids play.

He was four, she was ten. She was taking advantage of him, it should be dealt with instead of just letting it go and letting her develop knowing that society thinks it's ok.

Okay Mr. Psychic, how do you know it was sexually charged? How do you know she was taking advantage of him? Do you have any evidence for why we should treat this child as a rapist? Are you actually a child psychiatrist and expert on sex crimes behind your rantings about misandry and bad arguments?

She, a 10 year old girl, had two of her fingers stuck up a 4 year old boy's anus, so no I don't think that constitutes her merely being 'just curious', I mean how did that idea even enter her head? So I'm with Carpenter here.

Where in the fuck did you hear that little bit of information?

She was charged with rape... you can't actually charge a girl with raping a boy unless she sodomized him, I'm assuming this was done with fingers or an object, and fingers is the most likely possibility.

So what you're saying is i was lied to, it was never stated by a real information source, it was just something he made up? Lovely.

No... just that it's the only likely explanation for her to be prosecuted for rape, which she is.
I don't have access to the police report, but there has to be grounds for the prosecution to charge her with rape.
If I get access to the police report.

 

[CFriis87]

I can easily do it without demeaning you, it's just that you are making that part too easy.

You said this is just a curious girl. My point was that ten year olds are to the point where they can consciously understand that it's wrong to take advantage of smaller kids. We are talking about a very big age difference. You are presenting it as if it's a harmless game kids play.

He was four, she was ten. She was taking advantage of him, it should be dealt with instead of just letting it go and letting her develop knowing that society thinks it's ok.

Okay Mr. Psychic, how do you know it was sexually charged? How do you know she was taking advantage of him? Do you have any evidence for why we should treat this child as a rapist? Are you actually a child psychiatrist and expert on sex crimes behind your rantings about misandry and bad arguments?

She, a 10 year old girl, had two of her fingers stuck up a 4 year old boy's anus, so no I don't think that constitutes her merely being 'just curious', I mean how did that idea even enter her head? So I'm with Carpenter here.

Where in the fuck did you hear that little bit of information?

She was charged with rape... you can't actually charge a girl with raping a boy unless she sodomized him, I'm assuming this was done with fingers or an object, and fingers is the most likely possibility.

The article said that she was charged with aggravated sexual assault, with "Quanell X" being the one that said that the 10 year old was being charged with "aggravated rape," so, unless you've read another article I'm going to say that she was not charged with rape and that was just the wording the person happened to use, what with "sexual assault" and "rape" being somewhat synonymous in common conversation.

Here you go: http://www.khou.com/news/local/10-year-old-girl-arrested-for-allegedly-raping-4-year-old-boy--218937481.html

 

[Donzacuceron]

I wouldn't doubt that the girl was sexually abused by someone else in her life. Could have even happened just recently before this. An investigation from child services wouldn't be all that bad an idea. A better idea than calling the fucking police.

Off-topic, the mods are getting real horny (not an insult to the mods, just an expression) off this thread. I saw like 5 suspensions/warnings on the first page alone.

The question here is not why, the crime was committed or where she learned this behavior. The question is ?did she do it?? If there is enough proof to charge her of committing the crime, the question is ?should she be charges as an adult or a juvenile?. If tried as a juvenile, the punishment should be appropriate to the punishment prescribed by law. The question should NEVER be ?should we turn our head because of her age?? Rape is rape and there is NEVER a justification. If convicted, she must pay for the crime.
An investigation may find her parents or someone else should also be charged with committing other crimes. If so they should also be arrested and charged.

Ya, it is a question of why she committed the crime, if you want to rehabilitate her so that she doesn't do it again later in life. But if you want to scar her for life by punishing her with jail, or prison, she's more likely to commit the crime again (especially when it comes to crimes of sexual nature). When it comes to children, punishment is not justice.

Totally ignore the fact that prison Is meant to rehabilitate people.