27 Things Men Don't Know About Women, and other shit girls like to pretend.

[quiet_samurai]

Wow, there's a couple more things that could be added to that which are age inducing.

#28 - When we look sad or bothered by something and you ask us if something is wrong and we say no...something really is, but we don't want to have to tell you, we want you to just figure it out on you're own.

#29 - We remember everything... everything, you say or do at one point and if it made us mad the first time it will still make us mad now and we will bring it up again at a later time in a situation that is completely unrelated.

#30 - We'll ask you questions like "Do you think that woman over there looks good in that dress?" to store into our memory bank and use against you in a later unrelated argument to ruin your credability.

I could be here all night if I really put my mind to it. Good read by the way OP.

 

[BonsaiK]

They are obviously informed by a fairly mainstream stereotypical vision of what both men and women are supposed to be

This sentence specifically.

And yet so many women, by their inherent nature actually have these opinions. The source of this article may be crap, but it's kind of frightening just how many women would read the article and agree. What pisses me off is how many guys go along with it, something I go on a little bit about in my conclusion. Instead of letting retarded articles like this get a pass, we should be working to CHANGE this shit. To get angry about how gender relations are treated in the media, to have the balls to tell petty women to go fuck themselves and not get into relationships with them.

Ladies, this goes for you too. You should be getting equally pissed about this shit and doing your best to change all of this. I know not all of you are the stereotypical, average psychobitch. Hell, it's kind of a shame that this rant is coming from a guy and not from a girl.

What makes it personal for me is the fact that I'm a sailor. I've got a pretty different perspective on relationships than most people. I see guys (and girls, but mostly guys) get fucked over by shithead partners all the time. I see and hear all of the divorce and breakup stories and I just don't get it. A lot of times it involves partners that operate on crap logic like you see in that article. Why do people put up with all of this? Don't they know they can just say fuck it and not play the game? That they can tell all these pretentious morons to go eat a bag of dicks? Yet it's a shit problem that just keeps on repeating.

Also, by reproducing it here, are you not giving their (mostly crap, I agree) opinions undeserved extra attention?

It'll certainly be a great litmus test for the forumites, don't you think? Besides, I mostly just posted this here for the same reason I posted my Avatar review here. I'm just getting my rants and raves out to a bigger audience and seeing how they pan out.

The average woman is generally fairly brainwashed and spoonfed but then so is the average man. I don't think fighting for a better understanding of gender relations really does any good any more than arguing about the mertis of various religions (or lack thereof) does any good. In both cases what you're ultimately waging war against is a belief system, and people will generally believe what they want to believe, any amount of evidence or advice to the contrary notwithstanding. People pick the belief systems that best suit their personality and preferred way of living and away they go. I think it's better just to practice a better understanding of things in day-to-day existence rather than worrying about what some article says. As long as whoever you're with isn't similarly brainwashed, then that's all you ever really need to care about. There's heaps of mentally savvy, independently-thinking girls out there who think MSN articles are a bunch of horseshit (hi Labyrinth). If your friends fail to hook up with any of them for whatever reason, then the consequences aren't your responsiblity. Maybe your mates picked the dopey brainwashed girl over the smarter, more with-it girl because they thought the dopey girl had a nicer body, or more money, or whatever they thought the reason was. Then down the track their options have narrowed and now they're getting what they deserve for following something superficial. Ultimately, people put up with less-than-ideal situations like this because they want to. They weigh up the various factors, decide how they want to live their lives, and pick what they see as the best option out of what is available. If they don't see the ramifications... well, you can only lead a horse to water...

 

[SonicKoala]

Goddamn that was long, but I totally read it. Well done, some of the things made me smirk - I didn't lol, just so you know, but if you wrote this "just for the smirks", then you did a great job. A great freaking job.

 

[Shoukyaku]

Nice rant, alot of it is freakin true, seeing the crap my exs put me thru was just like going thru that list lol

 

[Mcupobob]

Wait.

So hunting mammoth isn't attractive anymore? When did that happen? Why didn't anyone tell me?

Making fire is still cool, right?

No their past that its all about the "Wheel" now.

 

[Zersy]

SNIP

Dude You are so right and pretty much one of the definations of awesome !

 

[BringBackBuck]

The Last Starfighter. Man I loved that movie.

 

[Ghostkai]

Damn good read, well played sir.
Made my morning thats for sure.

 

[The_State]

I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Would the concept of "gender" please just crawl into a corner and die?
Sex is an inescapable fact of nature; gender on the other hand is a byproduct of an aged and segregational society wherein roles and stereotypes are assigned and subsequently affirmed by a social system in which the most contemptible and shallow of human traits are rewarded.

This is mostly true. Gender is a heuristic, a mental shortcut to help us understand a person without having to work too hard to do it. The brain loves heuristics because they help streamline the thought process. Without them we'd never be able to put forth the energy we need to do more strenuous mental activities like figure out what the hell a Higgs-Boson particle is. Heuristics are useful, but also difficult to overcome should they prove incorrect.

Gender is a stereotype, and like all stereotypes there is a kernel of truth in it. Masculine and feminine traits very very frequently fall in line with the sex to which they are associated. Males typically act like men and females typically act like women, even before they are externally conditioned to do so. It is only on rare occasions that these stereotypes are challenged, and even then there is usually about a five-to-one ratio of people upholding the stereotype vs. those who are not.

Due to the typically binary nature of anatomical sex, the heuristic also follows a binary. As with all derivations from social norm, gender disparity is often met with hostility, even if only due to the fact that it makes us think harder. I suspect that is why people who don't typically think (by which I mean actual cognitive exercise) all that much and those whose thought patterns are conditioned after many years of experience are the ones who react most negatively to strangeness (which requires excess mental activity. I think you know where I'm going with that.)

I'd go on, but I think I've gone far enough off-topic already.

 

[Biosophilogical]

Wow, there's a couple more things that could be added to that which are age inducing.

#28 - When we look sad or bothered by something and you ask us if something is wrong and we say no...something really is, but we don't want to have to tell you, we want you to just figure it out on you're own.

#29 - We remember everything... everything, you say or do at one point and if it made us mad the first time it will still make us mad now and we will bring it up again at a later time in a situation that is completely unrelated.

#30 - We'll ask you questions like "Do you think that woman over there looks good in that dress?" to store into our memory bank and use against you in a later unrelated argument to ruin your credability.

I could be here all night if I really put my mind to it. Good read by the way OP.

#29.5 - We also conveniently forget EVERYTHING which contradicts the off-topic point we are making. This can work in your favour if we are recounting something good you have done, unfortunately for you, that. never. happens.

I would have made it #31, but it was more of a continuation rather than an entirely new point.

 

[SultanP]

we are the givers of life, so we can be as messed up as we damn well want.

You put seeds in dirt to make stuff grow too, but you don't see pots of dirt spewing crazy all over the place.

 

[Jou]

One was "10 ways to tell her she's gained weight without saying it" and included suggestions such as buying a dress intentionally too small for her and acting all innocent and disappointed when she can't fit it.

I laughed at the bolded part as a creative way to get a point across. I don't have that problem, but maybe I could do the reverse and buy shit a little too big for her so she tries to gain weight.

 

[Beartrucci]

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Pretty entertaining read. Some of the posts made me just think "What the fuck?" While others had me laughing like an idiot. It sounded like you needed to vent some rage, at least you made it interesting and fun to read instead of just a massive block of text that doesn't make any sense and has no paragraphs.

 

[Ocelot GT]

Sweet, one woman thinks her opinion = the opinion of the other 3.4 billion women on the planet.

IRL, no hunnycakes, just because you say something it doesn't make it a fact.

27 different women actually, which makes it a little more frightening.

27 different opinions do not represent a viable sample size however.

 

[Littaly]

#9: "Men who wear sunglasses at night don't look cool, rich, or sexy. They look as if they should be holding a cane or following a dog."

Actually, I've got nothing on this one. She's absolutely right, however this is kind of out of place in a list that purports to be all about the hidden secrets of women. It'd be better served in a list titled "Top ten ways not to look like a douchebag."

For anyone keeping score, this is the first item that actually gets even remotely close to being something resembling good advice.

UNLESS! It's 106 miles to Chicago, you have a full tank of gas and half a pack of cigarettes. In that case it's crazy cool

 

[Nickolai77]

Well that was an interesting and amusing read which made my morning, kudos to you the OP. In perticular your closing paragraphs drew my attention.

Hell, I never cared about getting into relationships with women and playing the game everyone else does and I figured all of you out years ago. Women in general, hell not even just women, people as a whole are not that complicated, it's just that everyone goes out of their way to PRETEND that they're that complicated.

Guys are easy to understand, I should know, I am one (though there is still debate on whether I'm actually genetically an alien, but as far as I know I'm a human guy). The problem is is that so many men are basically whipped into having kneejerk reactions when it comes to being involved with women. They're tricked by society into believing that they HAVE to be in a relationship and that 'that's just how women are' and that they should just 'learn to accept it.' That's how we end up with people needing books about relationships and marriage counselors. Why people go to Dr. Phil, why RomComs, no matter how terrible they may be, still make money.

Well you know what. Fuck that shit. I'm in no hurry to get hooked up with anyone. I'm quite content to give a big ole fuck you to the traditional games that people like to play with each other. It's not worth adding that whole layer of stress to my life just so I can feel like I'm doing what a "normal person should be doing." If by some miracle I meet a gal that everything clicks with, then hey alright, that's pretty awesome, but you can bet your ass I'm not going to bend over backwards just to make some narcissistic psychobitch happy for a month before she decides to dump me for this year's model, or even worse, marry her just to end up as a +1 on the total amount of sailors that have been divorced. I'm way too smart for that shit.

This is pretty much the atitude i have. Society expects everyone to play the dating game and "hook up" with someone (women really buy into this). Personally, i think playing the dating game is more hassle than its worth, and i'm going to resist all societal (and indeed biological) pressure to hook up with anyone on the basis that i will fulfill this expectation which society lays out.

But if i meet someone who i truely want to be with, for the rest of my life, someone who i can be myself with, share common interests and beliefs with etc- then yeah i will go for it, but only if such criteria are filled. I just don't want to get into a relationship for being in the sake of being in a relationship. Besides, being single has its advantages to enjoy.

 

[Jekken6]

I think chris rock got it right

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M902ZJHzaLE

(don't know how to embed vids)