7 Year Old Hijacks Car To Avoid Ch...Wait, what the hell?

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Thebobmaster said:
I can't quote the exact verse, but I do believe that certain parts of the Bible state you have to both live well and accept Jesus. Neither one nor the other is enough.
Really dude? If I devoted my life to charity, kindness, forgiveness, and selflessness (I am planning on starting a lot more community service this fall) I'm still gonna be chilling with hitler because I'm agnostic?


Doc Theta Sigma said:
I love how the news anchor immediately jumped to Grand Theft Auto when the officer mentioned he'd been grounded from a video game.

"We understand his father had recently grounded him from one of his video games which involves operating vehicles"
"Oh like Grand Theft Auto?"
GTA is officially the non-gamers response to almost anything. Games with guns, games with driving, games in big cities, games with swearing, they're all Grand Theft Auto :p
 

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I like how the anchorwoman suggests that the video game the seven-year-old was grounded from might have been Grand Theft Auto.

Urge to facepalm... rising... EDIT: Ninja'd.

On a different note, he's a damn good driver for his age.
 
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Lullabye said:
thebobmaster said:
Nmil-ek said:
lacktheknack said:
MasterSqueak said:
lacktheknack said:
MasterSqueak said:
lacktheknack said:
MasterSqueak said:
lacktheknack said:
Really depressing seeing all the church slamming, even more depressing then the knee-jerk GTA reference. Replace "chrch" with "school" to get a reference to how this should probably be viewed.

Anyhow, it's still amazing how well that kid can drive. He beats me any day.
School is more important than church.
I view them as equally important. If school is more important, it's only slightly.
Please explain your reasoning.
Well, that would probably require a whole book worth of ideas I've picked over my entire life, but lets shorten it to say that if Christianity is true (which I fully believe), then you should definitely immerse yourself with messages from someone whose spent his life learning about the Bible to get yourself ready for eternity.



No one said being a Christian is easy.
Pretty good answer.

My turn:

I'm not well versed in religious matters, but what I understand is that Christians believe that good people go to heaven.

What I understand is that heaven is a nice place where you get to relax and stuff as a reward for being good.

Please correct me if I'm wrong on that by the way.

If I'm right: why would you need to get ready for that? Wouldn't it make more sense to learn about this world in order to live longer in it and make it better?
Correction: People who believe Jesus is the Saviour go to heaven. Good deeds don't cut it. If anything, The real way is easier.

And if you don't immerse yourself in these teachings, and are regularly pounded by popular culture saying "religion is evil/sadistic/stupid/despicable" (at root, it is none of these things), then you are going to stop believing that Jesus is the saviour. Hence, you don't go to heaven.

It confuses me why there aren't more Christians, if not other religious people, when one's ticket to heaven is really quite easy to get.

EDIT: I just realized how much I've derailed this thread.
So all it requires is for one to accept jesus before your final hours you say? Well what if I have lived my life as an absolute asshole a deterent to everyone and everything is it just that I would be pardoned over say a man who has worked for charity all his life, donated blood, bone marrow, worked in third world countires to aid the poor etc, but never accepted Jesus would he be spared? Does not seem like a very good moal standpoint to me.
I can't quote the exact verse, but I do believe that certain parts of the Bible state you have to both live well and accept Jesus. Neither one nor the other is enough.
did you not just write that being good doesnt count for jack shit? i hate christianity because besides being a huge load, it is often hypocritical.
this is what happens when you die.
you cease to exist.
you cannont exist as the same conscious being in a metaphysical state. not possible before you ask, yes i do know, no i cant prove it...now...but if you study life, consciousness and physics, then you start to see what crap religion is. there is no happy afterlife. there is only nothing, and not even that. deal with it.( just because being christian is hard doesnt make it right, fyi...)
You know, there is no call to be so self-righteous. I was just trying to explain that just as being good but not believing in Jesus won't get you into heaven, neither will believing in Jesus, but still being an immoral jackass. Maybe you are happy being an atheist. I'm happy being a Christian. Do you really need to say something like 'you are wrong, you will not exist after you die' because our beliefs differ?
 

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MasterSqueak said:
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=14827435&ch=4226713&src=news

It it should be noted that on one of those little info popups it said that he learned to drive from videogames.

I...I'm not sure what to think about this. Although one thing disturbed me.

He hated church enough to hijack his dads car, yet they would bring him anyway?

PS: I'm having a glitch where if I try to read a topic I get a popup that says "failed to open page, aborting".
yeah its doing that to me too on internet explorer, so i switched to google chrome.
it fixed tht right up.

yeah if your 7 year old hates church, then get him a damn babysitter
god is it that hard?
 

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thebobmaster said:
Lullabye said:
thebobmaster said:
Nmil-ek said:
lacktheknack said:
MasterSqueak said:
lacktheknack said:
MasterSqueak said:
lacktheknack said:
MasterSqueak said:
lacktheknack said:
Really depressing seeing all the church slamming, even more depressing then the knee-jerk GTA reference. Replace "chrch" with "school" to get a reference to how this should probably be viewed.

Anyhow, it's still amazing how well that kid can drive. He beats me any day.
School is more important than church.
I view them as equally important. If school is more important, it's only slightly.
Please explain your reasoning.
Well, that would probably require a whole book worth of ideas I've picked over my entire life, but lets shorten it to say that if Christianity is true (which I fully believe), then you should definitely immerse yourself with messages from someone whose spent his life learning about the Bible to get yourself ready for eternity.



No one said being a Christian is easy.
Pretty good answer.

My turn:

I'm not well versed in religious matters, but what I understand is that Christians believe that good people go to heaven.

What I understand is that heaven is a nice place where you get to relax and stuff as a reward for being good.

Please correct me if I'm wrong on that by the way.

If I'm right: why would you need to get ready for that? Wouldn't it make more sense to learn about this world in order to live longer in it and make it better?
Correction: People who believe Jesus is the Saviour go to heaven. Good deeds don't cut it. If anything, The real way is easier.

And if you don't immerse yourself in these teachings, and are regularly pounded by popular culture saying "religion is evil/sadistic/stupid/despicable" (at root, it is none of these things), then you are going to stop believing that Jesus is the saviour. Hence, you don't go to heaven.

It confuses me why there aren't more Christians, if not other religious people, when one's ticket to heaven is really quite easy to get.

EDIT: I just realized how much I've derailed this thread.
So all it requires is for one to accept jesus before your final hours you say? Well what if I have lived my life as an absolute asshole a deterent to everyone and everything is it just that I would be pardoned over say a man who has worked for charity all his life, donated blood, bone marrow, worked in third world countires to aid the poor etc, but never accepted Jesus would he be spared? Does not seem like a very good moal standpoint to me.
I can't quote the exact verse, but I do believe that certain parts of the Bible state you have to both live well and accept Jesus. Neither one nor the other is enough.
did you not just write that being good doesnt count for jack shit? i hate christianity because besides being a huge load, it is often hypocritical.
this is what happens when you die.
you cease to exist.
you cannont exist as the same conscious being in a metaphysical state. not possible before you ask, yes i do know, no i cant prove it...now...but if you study life, consciousness and physics, then you start to see what crap religion is. there is no happy afterlife. there is only nothing, and not even that. deal with it.( just because being christian is hard doesnt make it right, fyi...)
You know, there is no call to be so self-righteous. I was just trying to explain that just as being good but not believing in Jesus won't get you into heaven, neither will believing in Jesus, but still being an immoral jackass. Maybe you are happy being an atheist. I'm happy being a Christian. Do you really need to say something like 'you are wrong, you will not exist after you die' because our beliefs differ?
i dont care what makes you happy. killing makes people happy. should i respect that to? and you are spouting religulous crap that no one but other christians want to hear. also, do you remember what you were like before conception? no? thats because you didnt exist. death is the same. you are wrong. its not a belief, its a fact. but im trying to explain this to a religious person so why am i even bothering. damn agnostics....
 

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thebobmaster said:
Lullabye said:
thebobmaster said:
Nmil-ek said:
lacktheknack said:
MasterSqueak said:
lacktheknack said:
MasterSqueak said:
lacktheknack said:
MasterSqueak said:
lacktheknack said:
Really depressing seeing all the church slamming, even more depressing then the knee-jerk GTA reference. Replace "chrch" with "school" to get a reference to how this should probably be viewed.

Anyhow, it's still amazing how well that kid can drive. He beats me any day.
School is more important than church.
I view them as equally important. If school is more important, it's only slightly.
Please explain your reasoning.
Well, that would probably require a whole book worth of ideas I've picked over my entire life, but lets shorten it to say that if Christianity is true (which I fully believe), then you should definitely immerse yourself with messages from someone whose spent his life learning about the Bible to get yourself ready for eternity.



No one said being a Christian is easy.
Pretty good answer.

My turn:

I'm not well versed in religious matters, but what I understand is that Christians believe that good people go to heaven.

What I understand is that heaven is a nice place where you get to relax and stuff as a reward for being good.

Please correct me if I'm wrong on that by the way.

If I'm right: why would you need to get ready for that? Wouldn't it make more sense to learn about this world in order to live longer in it and make it better?
Correction: People who believe Jesus is the Saviour go to heaven. Good deeds don't cut it. If anything, The real way is easier.

And if you don't immerse yourself in these teachings, and are regularly pounded by popular culture saying "religion is evil/sadistic/stupid/despicable" (at root, it is none of these things), then you are going to stop believing that Jesus is the saviour. Hence, you don't go to heaven.

It confuses me why there aren't more Christians, if not other religious people, when one's ticket to heaven is really quite easy to get.

EDIT: I just realized how much I've derailed this thread.
So all it requires is for one to accept jesus before your final hours you say? Well what if I have lived my life as an absolute asshole a deterent to everyone and everything is it just that I would be pardoned over say a man who has worked for charity all his life, donated blood, bone marrow, worked in third world countires to aid the poor etc, but never accepted Jesus would he be spared? Does not seem like a very good moal standpoint to me.
I can't quote the exact verse, but I do believe that certain parts of the Bible state you have to both live well and accept Jesus. Neither one nor the other is enough.
did you not just write that being good doesnt count for jack shit? i hate christianity because besides being a huge load, it is often hypocritical.
this is what happens when you die.
you cease to exist.
you cannont exist as the same conscious being in a metaphysical state. not possible before you ask, yes i do know, no i cant prove it...now...but if you study life, consciousness and physics, then you start to see what crap religion is. there is no happy afterlife. there is only nothing, and not even that. deal with it.( just because being christian is hard doesnt make it right, fyi...)
You know, there is no call to be so self-righteous. I was just trying to explain that just as being good but not believing in Jesus won't get you into heaven, neither will believing in Jesus, but still being an immoral jackass. Maybe you are happy being an atheist. I'm happy being a Christian. Do you really need to say something like 'you are wrong, you will not exist after you die' because our beliefs differ?

To help out my friend here I shall try to explain. Salvation in the "christian" (not catholic/works based religions) manner is simply faith in God(to be explained in a sec). Now wait you say "why can't I just believe in God on my death bed and ask for salvation".

Well it's not that simple (and yet it is). Salvation is based on repentance, and faith. Repentance in that you know your "evil" even if your a "good" person and that nothing you do is worthy of heaven. And "faith" in believing that Jesus is the only way you can get to heaven . Now if you wait till your deathbed are you truly repentant? Would you truly be believing that Christ is the only way towards salvation? I would say chances are you would not be sincere.

Now you can't just acknowledge "hey i'm evil and UR the only way God take me to heaven" because true repentance is followed by a change in your person (or soul). This is where a lot of faiths get it wrong IMO because they see works(the change in a person) as a requirement for salvation. Christians just see it as evidence of salvation. So while the two are linked works is NOT a requirement for salvation. But if one is "saved" one will live accordingly.
TL DR version. No you can't get fire insurance salvation :p
 

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asinann said:
MasterSqueak said:
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=14827435&ch=4226713&src=news

It it should be noted that on one of those little info popups it said that he learned to drive from videogames.

I...I'm not sure what to think about this. Although one thing disturbed me.

He hated church enough to hijack his dads car, yet they would bring him anyway?

PS: I'm having a glitch where if I try to read a topic I get a popup that says "failed to open page, aborting".
Church=brainwashing. That's why parents force their impressionable children to go. Get them early. Once it has become habit they generally just keep going whether they believe or not.

I've got a friend that's like this, doesn't believe but attends mass each and every Sunday out of habit.
Damn straight I quit going to church once I realized what was being said. I refuse to believe that all the shit we are put through in life is just some big exam to be accepted into some shitty higher place. I graduated damn it, the only test I take now is a sobriety one.
 

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Wow........I thought that church was boring (although the pews did make really great ramps for my Matchbox cars), but this kid must have really hated it.



Yea, I think this may be the perfect church for this kid.
 

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The little kid reminds me of Kirk from the new Star Trek movie at his age stealing a car against the cops. Go little dude, you got a galaxy to save!
 

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Alright, he's for in Utah that means that he sold a car to get out of MORMON church which makes it 100 times more bad-ass then otherwise.

Khada said:
maybe he got tired of the priests using him as a sausage wallet.
Again, its Mormon church there aren't any priests. Just terrible, brainwashing, fail.
 

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I love how the minute the cop mentions Video games, the News reporters says "ah one of those Grand theft auto games" as if she is just BEGGING to get a chance to rip in video games. Thanks Media, thanks again.
 

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Kiutu said:
She says GTA. I want to slap her. I honestly screamed out obscenities when she said that.
AUTO is in the title..he stole the car. Hmm. Not hard to put the game and the act together....
 

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Because stealing cars in real life is perfectly protrayed in GTA? I believe in GTA the relative sequence run up to car and press O or some button the like its been a while. Which translates to Real life how?

With that aside, I want his autograph, so full of win
 

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It's just as well there are videogames to teach kids like this how to drive, or otherwise he might've crashed the car.

Imagine how badly he would have driven WITHOUT the help of video games. That pedestrian would be dead for sure.
 

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Blitzkrieg64 said:
Weird, on the news they talked about this but where I am they didn't say anything about video games. But seriously they didn't have to drag games into it to be interesting.
A common news media tactic, I like the Onion's parody of such sensationalism, they use the case of a missing girl to repeatedly speculate (with no evidence or real information) that some grisly fate has befallen her.