72 Percent of Adults Support California Game Law - UPDATED
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Did they even bother to research that you HAVE to be an adult to purchase M-rated games? So how did those kids get those games? Their parents, or an adult friend, or illegally! Parents need to take the blame for their neglect, not the studios who made those games specifically for adults.
Well then, 72% of adults do not know what they are talking about and are making a decision based on information which they don't have. Well done guys!
While I agree with mostly everyone because everyone's saying pretty much the same thing, your asking Parents to turn into game-restricting dictators, which to be honest I don't think anyone should be.
I agree with both sides somewhat, on one hand, I don't think the government should restrict what people can buy when there are things that can easily counter-act the negative side-effects of it.
And on the other hand I don't think a ten-year old should play a game where you can decapitate a person and use their head as knob for your stick-shift so you can more easily drive through a crowd of bystanders.
I do think polices should be in place that would encourage parents to use the parental controls so that kids can still enjoy as much of the game as they should, without going overboard.
Though now that I think about it, I'd rather give Mexico another Economy boom with the new business of Illegal Game Smuggling.
I agree with both sides somewhat, on one hand, I don't think the government should restrict what people can buy when there are things that can easily counter-act the negative side-effects of it.
And on the other hand I don't think a ten-year old should play a game where you can decapitate a person and use their head as knob for your stick-shift so you can more easily drive through a crowd of bystanders.
I do think polices should be in place that would encourage parents to use the parental controls so that kids can still enjoy as much of the game as they should, without going overboard.
Though now that I think about it, I'd rather give Mexico another Economy boom with the new business of Illegal Game Smuggling.
I'm seriously worried about this... I know it all makes no sense and that logically this law should be shot down and that its bad parenting and not the games industry thats the problem...
But what if they win? We've seen the pure stupidity of the average people, what if they win? *shudders*
But what if they win? We've seen the pure stupidity of the average people, what if they win? *shudders*
Well, we Americans have a long-standing tradition of assuming that our problems are never our own fault; it's always some nebulous 'other' that's the source of all our troubles. All I'm saying is, parents shouldn't be projecting their own issues onto the government; it has enough things to worry about without arguing over clearly unconstitutional laws like this.
California is getting more crazy by the minute. First the CA police say pedo bear is a threat to the people of california (gg lawl). Now this crap =P. Also theoretically if this is going to be regulated, it leads a platform for the entire entertainment medium to be regulated (kids can't watch cartoons or movies with violence, listen to music with "violence" or "mature" lyrics). If this passes it will open a box full of sh*t
just like what south park said about parents being overly-concerned about whats on TV because they rely on it as a baby-sitter and mentor to their kids.Mornelithe said:
also, the questions are asked in a VERY biased way to make people think a certain way about the result.
its like when Fox news cuts out certain parts of an interview to make their people look better, or when someone asks you the question "do you think kids should be allowed to kill people?" instead of asking "do you think kids should be allowed to play videogames?" see the bias in each of those statements? but people are idiots, and when they're asked questions that are CLEARLY meant to lead them to the answer the asker wants to hear, they NEVER question the integrity of the survey...
This.Mornelithe said:
If parents do what they are supposed to do than bam no more problem of minors playing M rated games. And if they are playing it, it's because the parents gave consent.
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That is some ignorance right there.
Still it's not like they care about video games so prehaps I should let them off about not understanding them?
No.
This is more about good parenting than an understanding of how video game retail works. They do not understand a system that they as parents should understand. They are ignorant of things they need to know.
Still it's not like they care about video games so prehaps I should let them off about not understanding them?
No.
This is more about good parenting than an understanding of how video game retail works. They do not understand a system that they as parents should understand. They are ignorant of things they need to know.
WHOA! Did you see "Food, Inc." and "Supersize Me", too? I love those movies...Dexter111 said:Uhm... but they kind of did, it's not an "individual" problem but a cultural one e.g.:sinestro1940 said:
and the big "food companies" that feed whole populations like cattle the cheapest way possible, even if it means that large parts of the food is full of chemicals and flavor enhancers while "healthy" food gets more and more expensive and even unattainable for certain groups of people (or only in special places) are as responsible as the people who can't restrain themselves... there desperately needs to be some instance controlling and ensuring healthy food (especially in the US) as there (now luckily is) to the consequences of smoking or certain drugs etc. cause it can be about as harmful in the long run.
Are you trying to say that said game companies aren't responsible for the content they put in games? It's not like it is a byproduct of "open world games" in most cases cause there needs to be special code and animations etc. for most of that stuff. One of the examples (Postal 2) doesn't even really have a main story, it says something along the lines of "get milk" or something and lets the player loose in the world... I'm pretty sure the goal or the object of the game isn't to get milk.
OT: I think you were reading a little too much into my post. I was just trying to make a simple point. I wasn't exactly thinking of poor people who can't afford "healthy" food and all the chemicals and all that bullshit. To quote Willy Wonka, "IT'S ALL THEIR, BLACK AND WHITE, CLEAR AS CRYSTAL! You wasted your time searching up that graph, rubbing your hands all over your keyboard, which now has to be washed, and sterilized, so you get nothing but my ignorance, and a 70's movie reference! YOU LOSE! Good day, sir!"
You realize that it's almost certain that the opposite would happen, right? The reasons have already been explained a few times in this thread, feel free to go back and dig them up. But if you seriously think that this unprecedented attack on protected speech in the United States would somehow herald a renaissance in mature game development... well sir, you're a greater optimist than I.Dexter111 said:
So you're willing to trash the First Amendment because this kid's mother is a failed parent?odanhammer said:
They didn't post it, they provided me with a full copy of the poll results. What you read is what I got.Calatar said:
Also, for those who have requested a more detailed definition of "ultraviolence":
Oh, I'm just kidding. Nobody really knows what the hell it means, but I suspect it's meant to mean whatever people want it to mean when they trot it out.
I am an avid video game collector. I just last week bought my 31st distinct video game console (a PSP of all things.) I also have young kids in my family. 4 of them! So you know what I do? I stop them from playing the mature rated games. I'm the person that buys the games for myself and for the kids. I hav etold them which ones they can play and which they can't, and although I've taught them to listen, and they do, if they decided one day to disobey me, then I would take away their games and they wouldn't play any until they follow my rules, and they know this. It's called parenting! Try it instead of blaming game creators, or game retailers. If you don't want to be responsible for your kids, don't let them have any video games, or better yet, just don't have kids!