I say yes, it's best for FPS, but not for ANY game. I have found that 3rd person games are usually much better on consoles (Mount & Blade is an exception). Side-scrollers are preferable with a controller, but still playable with keyboard. Fighting games (street fighter, mortal combat etc) are better usually MUCH better with a controller.
I don't think that the selling point for PC gamers is a keyboard but rather the ability to modify their games heavily and enjoy a wide spectrum of non-mainstream titles.
So, while not being one of them, I would say not really.
I only play PC games and this to me just seems silly. They might as well just make a hole new operating system and release it as a PC.
"A peripheral is an extra, if anyone thinks a peripheral would be a decisive matter in a decision like that is completely missing the point of the base item."
Don't be silly, a PS3, even not, is hugely expensive. The few exclusives that aren't available on a PC hardly justify the huge price range, or the added price of games. Not to mention the cost of an adequate screen to game on.
PC gaming, over the life of the PC (usually about 2 console generations if it's well built) is substantially cheaper. Unless I come into money sometime soon, control schemes aren't going to impact my decision.
The relatively meager sum of PS3 games that aren't available on PC are not enough to justify buying an entire console. There aren't very many, fuck, even if every game released on the PS3 was unavailable on the PC, the high price and low lifespan of the console isn't worth it to many PC gamers. Think about it, at $60-$110+ (I'm Australian, the prices are high but the scaling is pretty much the same regardless of where you are) a pop for PS3 title (of which, let's be outrageous and call it 100, titles) compared to the unlimited mod library and insanely cheap, near unlimited library of PC games.
A few weeks ago, I bought for less than half the price of a new PS3 game the entire red faction series, dawn of war+expansions, company of heroes+ expansions, Supcom+expansion, titan question + expansion and full spectrum warrior+ expansion and S.T.A.L.K.E.R the shadow of Chernobyl as well as a few others. It was 13 games/expansions in total, at least 4 of which current are current gen (some are older). Hell, 5 minutes on steam (and overpriced, bloated pile of shit) reveals oblivion and it's expansions are $8.50US (which I can't be bothered converting to AU exactly, but is somewhere around the $10au mark). I actually saw obvlivion (not GOTY edition) selling used for $30 in a gamestore the other week. I can't stress enough just how expensive consoles are, most gamers can't afford it, end of.
I hear you say mouse and keyboard is the bestest thing ever for FPS (or even any game) so would being able to play in your preferred control system on PS3 exclusives persuade you to buy one?
(I don't know how you hide the url into a word or sentence. Sorry if this has been brought up before)
Edit. Just thought I would list a few exclusives just as a small reminder, God of war 3, MGS4, Modnation racers and heavy rain
You just don't get it. You have no idea what PC gaming is about, it is about not being locked down in a walled garden of 10-year old hardware and corporate oversight of Every. Single. Piece of software.
Look, PS3 is a package holiday, it is all in a nice neat bundle controlled and presented but I only want to occasionally visit that place, extended stays would be hell. It's a place I wouldn't want to enjoy as the only way I'd enjoy it is if I didn't care about freedom any more.
PC is my own adventure, just get off the plane and go wherever the hell you like, do what you want however you want.
This - device - you show is a hack, these things are ALWAYS buggy as hell as no game is made with this interface in mind. And it is likely to exacerbate the already crappy situation of input lag on console games. I mean do you know about input lag? Major problem on consoles, virtually non-existent on PC.
And of course the low frame-rate, low resolution and muddier graphics are not solved, WHY OH WHY is 60fps gaming still considered something special on consoles and the few times it is offered it is with sub-HD resolution and compromised graphics.
And then of course only a total dickhead would use this device online if everyone else had only gamepad controls.
I consider myself a PC gamer but I own a PS3 as well, though mainly for the Exclusives but the point is to spite buying so many games for PS3 it still is only able to compete for a fraction of my free time, most goes to PC. NOTHING the PS3 has comes close to the best PC has to offer.
I mean why would I buy a PS3, COD4 for PS3 and this device... when I could just get COD4 for PC?
COD4 on PC has DEDICATED SERVERS! That means clans, 60-player maps, ultra low and known lag, demo recording, adjustable FOV, mods, custom skins, custom maps, you name it. Adjustable resolution, frame-rate, anti-aliasing, V-sync, console commands, customisable controls, macros.
Oh and not to forget the mods, the free games (yes, so many old games are just release on PC for free), the back catalogue, the BREADTH of games and peripheral support for them.
I will look into this device but these sorts of things have been attempted before, I'd love to play games like Uncharted with TRUE mouse support but the bottom line is it is still just interpreting mouse-input into gamepad-like input. And $60 is a lot of money for a mere "mouse emulation" and I'm not going to bother importing it if it doesn't come to UK.
Bottom line: this is not a reason to get a PS3, PC gamers should still get a PS3 for the exclusives (also cheap way to get a Blu-ray player and DVR/PVR with PlayTV) but it's still just a casual platform compared to PC.
PS3 is to PC, as the Wii is to PS3: Nice, but too weak and casual by comparison with only a fraction as many games worth playing.
I've had monitors with 1280 x 1024 resolutions (strictly larger than 720p HD) for ten years now. Monitors with 1920 x 1200 resolutions (strictly larger than 1080p) became popular somewhere around 2004, yeah.
Just search "SCART to [connector you need] adapter"
SCART to VGA:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=37141
Admittedly, that is a lot more expensive than I expected.
I suppose you could daisy chain a SCART to HDMI connector, then HDMI to DVI, then DVI to VGA
http://www.aerialshack.com/hdmi-plug-dvid-socket-adapter-p-513.html
http://www.ramelectronics.net/audio-video/hdmi/cables-accessories/hdmi-adapters/budget-dvi-to-hdmi-adapter/prodRAMFMHDMI.html
http://www.ramelectronics.net/audio-video/adapters/dvi-component-and-vga-adapters/ada-dvi-2-vga/prodGEF00096.html
But that looks like a stupid idea to me.
And that's assuming you have a VGA monitor. If it's DVI, it's a bit simpler.
I don't think that the selling point for PC gamers is a keyboard but rather the ability to modify their games heavily and enjoy a wide spectrum of non-mainstream titles.
So, while not being one of them, I would say not really.
Nope. Why go from a nice gaming rig with better internet, better download speeds, the ability to run almost any program imaginable to a console which can only play games, music, and videos? (Oh and slow internet)
Basically if you add a keyboard and mouse to a PS3 it's still a direct downgrade from a PC. Bad controls is only one of many reasons I don't buy consoles.
Did you read the op at all? I never claimed to understand PC gaming, this thread isn't really about PC gaming, it's about "would this product help convince you to buy a PS3?".
I am not saying the PS3 is better or that the only upside to the PC is the mouse and keyboard, all it is about is if you were considering splashing the cash on a PS3 but there was just something that wouldn't let you, would this be the deciding factor?
It seems the answer is no, launching off into a long post is a little bit of an over reaction.
I've had monitors with 1280 x 1024 resolutions (strictly larger than 720p HD) for ten years now. Monitors with 1920 x 1200 resolutions (strictly larger than 1080p) became popular somewhere around 2004, yeah.
Just search "SCART to [connector you need] adapter"
SCART to VGA:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=37141
Admittedly, that is a lot more expensive than I expected.
I suppose you could daisy chain a SCART to HDMI connector, then HDMI to DVI, then DVI to VGA
http://www.aerialshack.com/hdmi-plug-dvid-socket-adapter-p-513.html
http://www.ramelectronics.net/audio-video/hdmi/cables-accessories/hdmi-adapters/budget-dvi-to-hdmi-adapter/prodRAMFMHDMI.html
http://www.ramelectronics.net/audio-video/adapters/dvi-component-and-vga-adapters/ada-dvi-2-vga/prodGEF00096.html
But that looks like a stupid idea to me.
And that's assuming you have a VGA monitor. If it's DVI, it's a bit simpler.
There isn't really anything that could lure me away from PC gaming. It's where I started, and it is where I will someday end (when God sees fit to remove me from this earth).
I hear you say mouse and keyboard is the bestest thing ever for FPS (or even any game) so would being able to play in your preferred control system on PS3 exclusives persuade you to buy one?
(I don't know how you hide the url into a word or sentence. Sorry if this has been brought up before)
Edit. Just thought I would list a few exclusives just as a small reminder, God of war 3, MGS4, Modnation racers and heavy rain
If it's anywhere near as terrible as SMART JOY FRAG was, then no. However, the only genre that I really need my mouse and keyboard for is RTS. FPS is really "good enough" on the consoles as is. The twitch accuracy argument really only becomes relevant in the competitive multiplayer environment.
The controller isn't what makes me play PC over consoles. PC just provides me with a cheaper and more feature rich service. The fact the keyboard and mouse are more comfortable for me isn't important enough to sway me in either direction.
I like having a system that runs whatever I want it too. Rather than a closed game player that charges me whenever it can(XBox... charging for multi-player is such a rip).
I don't think that the selling point for PC gamers is a keyboard but rather the ability to modify their games heavily and enjoy a wide spectrum of non-mainstream titles.
So, while not being one of them, I would say not really.
No, I am more then happy with my cheap, Digital distributed games.
I enjoy modding, and I do not have a tv good enough for BluRay yet.
I also have a PS2 and Gamecube backlog; and I plan to buy the current gen when the next gen comes out.
Thats not being cheap, thats being smart & prioritising other things over gaming. If you had more then enough money to cover all of your needs, plus potential needs you would totally own all the cool fun things, but your smart.
Don't be silly, a PS3, even not, is hugely expensive. The few exclusives that aren't available on a PC hardly justify the huge price range, or the added price of games. Not to mention the cost of an adequate screen to game on.
PC gaming, over the life of the PC (usually about 2 console generations if it's well built) is substantially cheaper. Unless I come into money sometime soon, control schemes aren't going to impact my decision.
The relatively meager sum of PS3 games that aren't available on PC are not enough to justify buying an entire console. There aren't very many, fuck, even if every game released on the PS3 was unavailable on the PC, the high price and low lifespan of the console isn't worth it to many PC gamers. Think about it, at $60-$110+ (I'm Australian, the prices are high but the scaling is pretty much the same regardless of where you are) a pop for PS3 title (of which, let's be outrageous and call it 100, titles) compared to the unlimited mod library and insanely cheap, near unlimited library of PC games.
A few weeks ago, I bought for less than half the price of a new PS3 game the entire red faction series, dawn of war+expansions, company of heroes+ expansions, Supcom+expansion, titan question + expansion and full spectrum warrior+ expansion and S.T.A.L.K.E.R the shadow of Chernobyl as well as a few others. It was 13 games/expansions in total, at least 4 of which current are current gen (some are older). Hell, 5 minutes on steam (and overpriced, bloated pile of shit) reveals oblivion and it's expansions are $8.50US (which I can't be bothered converting to AU exactly, but is somewhere around the $10au mark). I actually saw obvlivion (not GOTY edition) selling used for $30 in a gamestore the other week. I can't stress enough just how expensive consoles are, most gamers can't afford it, end of.
The value of PC gaming is without contest, it is the one rig to rule them all but I think if a PC gamer were going to own only one console it would be PS3. And in previous generations I'd have said the the Gamecube.
PS3 is useful for things like recording Telly with it's PlayTV peripheral being able to wait in standby, I don't want to have to keep my PC on 24-7 nor have HD recording cut into my framerate because QI or Argumental just came on. Blu-ray and DVD-upscaler are handy.
Also, like the Gamecube, it has what I call the "Zelda Factor" that really great first party game that the studios obstinately just won't officially release on PC. I just got to play those games.
I game equally on my PS3, 360 and PC but I don't see why this would entice a PC gamer to buy a PS3 as really it is offering something they/I already have.
I guess if there are games that they are dying to play on the PS3 it's good but other than that I don't see much use for me personally.
Thats why I put pc exclusive, the ones who hate holding a controller can now play games that will never be on the pc, so they get the best of both worlds.
Don't be silly, a PS3, even not, is hugely expensive. The few exclusives that aren't available on a PC hardly justify the huge price range, or the added price of games. Not to mention the cost of an adequate screen to game on.
PC gaming, over the life of the PC (usually about 2 console generations if it's well built) is substantially cheaper. Unless I come into money sometime soon, control schemes aren't going to impact my decision.
The relatively meager sum of PS3 games that aren't available on PC are not enough to justify buying an entire console. There aren't very many, fuck, even if every game released on the PS3 was unavailable on the PC, the high price and low lifespan of the console isn't worth it to many PC gamers. Think about it, at $60-$110+ (I'm Australian, the prices are high but the scaling is pretty much the same regardless of where you are) a pop for PS3 title (of which, let's be outrageous and call it 100, titles) compared to the unlimited mod library and insanely cheap, near unlimited library of PC games.
A few weeks ago, I bought for less than half the price of a new PS3 game the entire red faction series, dawn of war+expansions, company of heroes+ expansions, Supcom+expansion, titan question + expansion and full spectrum warrior+ expansion and S.T.A.L.K.E.R the shadow of Chernobyl as well as a few others. It was 13 games/expansions in total, at least 4 of which current are current gen (some are older). Hell, 5 minutes on steam (and overpriced, bloated pile of shit) reveals oblivion and it's expansions are $8.50US (which I can't be bothered converting to AU exactly, but is somewhere around the $10au mark). I actually saw obvlivion (not GOTY edition) selling used for $30 in a gamestore the other week. I can't stress enough just how expensive consoles are, most gamers can't afford it, end of.
I don't think that the selling point for PC gamers is a keyboard but rather the ability to modify their games heavily and enjoy a wide spectrum of non-mainstream titles.
So, while not being one of them, I would say not really.
This. And that there are genres of games that really just 'click' on PC
OT: Plus picking up fun, discount games on PC ... like one of the funnest experiences in a JB Hi-Fi, EB, or Game store is flicking through the HUGE bargain bins set up for PC gamers .... and some of the old treasures (that you may have to tinker with settings to get to play) of gaming that you find for 5 bucks.
PC gaming has everything to please someone, and so many treasures to be found f you're only willing to look for them.
Like with consoles, you tend to buy games you're looking for (like new releases) .... whereas with PC you might not be looking fr a game at all ... but find that rare something-something hidden away.
I think thats also a strong part of the appeal of PC games.
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