A question for you PC exclusive gamers.

[Continuity]

I think that those who are PC exclusive, and gamers (as opposed to casual gamers), are PC exclusive for many more reasons than just the controls.

PC Platform pros:
More powerful hardware / better graphics.
better controls (for many game types).
more games.
a better quality of game (more depth).
steam.
better internet based gaming including MMOs.
better internet gaming community.
indie game developers.
advanced configuration (e.g. config file settings, dev console, drivers and wrappers, overclocking etc.).
patching and DLC.
modding.
community run dedicated game servers.
fun of custom building your gaming rig.
cheap games, especially via steam and other digital download

Console platform Pros:
easy and fun to multiplay with mates round the tv.
more comfortable to game on sofa.
games tend to be less buggy out of the box / no compatibility issues.
some big titles that aren't available on the PC.
better at games that play best with a controller e.g. racing games, beat e'm ups - I think that's down to standard hardware/controller.
not crippled with DRM (to my knowledge).


The lists aren't exhaustive, but my point is just that the PC offers more benefits than just the keyboard and mouse controls. The console platform does offer some convincing benefits over the PC platform, as I've outlined above but for those PC gamers who haven't been tempted thus far a keyboard and mouse isn't likely to swing it.

 

[Outright Villainy]

Well I already have a ps3, so I'm quite interested in this. If it gives good functionality that is, I don't want crappy acceleration or whatever on the mouse controls, and it'd need to be pretty smooth. If it actually works like an actual mouse control then I'd be all over it. Mmm, Metal gear solid 4 with mouse and keyboard. *drools*

 

[omega 616]

Just my opinion. They are widely considered the golden Platforming/Adventure games of the PS1 Era for a reason though. To each their own anyways.

I think in there time they were good but they weren't gaming greatness, I will always have a soft spot for those levels in Crash were you rode a hog.

 

[Wintermoot]

no because I dont have the money to buy a new console

 

[Continuity]

Same arguement you can compare indie prices to indie prices but not to any large release. Do you even know what a typical PC gamer is? If you go by typical being the vast majority then the typical PC gamer plays farmville at work and thats it.

There is a lot of casual internet/flash gaming that goes on on the PC but I think that that is quite distinct from "PC gaming", playing flash games on the internet does not make you a "PC Gamer" - at least not by accepted definitions of the terms. We're talking gaming hardware (graphics card) and purchased produced games like bioshock, GTA4 or call of duty (just examples).
I can't see that there is any point in bringing the casual contingent into this discussion anyway because I can't see any casual gamer buying a PS3 and a keyboard and mouse to go with it

 

[Dys]

The relatively meager sum of PS3 games that aren't available on PC are not enough to justify buying an entire console. There aren't very many, fuck, even if every game released on the PS3 was unavailable on the PC, the high price and low lifespan of the console isn't worth it to many PC gamers. Think about it, at $60-$110+ (I'm Australian, the prices are high but the scaling is pretty much the same regardless of where you are) a pop for PS3 title (of which, let's be outrageous and call it 100, titles) compared to the unlimited mod library and insanely cheap, near unlimited library of PC games.

You cant compare AAA released with the unlimited library of indie PC games when your talking about prices. Nor can you compare the price of a brand new ps3 game with a pc game that came out 3 years ago. When your talking about PC exclusives you also have to consider that 90% of all console games dont come out on the PC. Im not talking just ps3 im talking all consoles.

A few weeks ago, I bought for less than half the price of a new PS3 game the entire red faction series, dawn of war+expansions, company of heroes+ expansions, Supcom+expansion, titan question + expansion and full spectrum warrior+ expansion and S.T.A.L.K.E.R the shadow of Chernobyl as well as a few others. It was 13 games/expansions in total, at least 4 of which current are current gen (some are older). Hell, 5 minutes on steam (and overpriced, bloated pile of shit) reveals oblivion and it's expansions are $8.50US (which I can't be bothered converting to AU exactly, but is somewhere around the $10au mark). I actually saw obvlivion (not GOTY edition) selling used for $30 in a gamestore the other week. I can't stress enough just how expensive consoles are, most gamers can't afford it, end of.

I picked up GOTY oblivion brand new for $10CDN. If you go to expensive stores then you will find expensive games. Places like EB and Gamestop dont update used game prices so with games that have been on the shelf awhile you will often find that they are more expensive then the brand new ones. I also call bullshit that you bought all those games for under $30. Hell the company of heroes complete pack is going for $50 on steam right now. I fully admit that i dont know the best places to acquire pc games but i highly doubt your pricing. Prices are only really expensive if you refuse to shop around and go to the most expensive store you know of. Gamestop is kind of like the dell of the gaming market. Rediciously overpriced and only fools or people with no choice shop there.

You've misread, it was Oblivion (without expansions) that was $30au (it was in JB hifi, which is considerably cheaper than EB games, but has nothing on steam, which in turn has nothing on impulse). The package games was bought for $52.something au off of impulse. The sale has since ended (but since impulse mail out their catalogues, and I don't delete emails, I can show a screencap. The package in question is the THQ ultimate bundle), and I will admit it was an amazingly good buy but it most certainly wasn't bullshit (I've never bought a new PS3 games[footnote]I do own a PS3, I wanted a bluray player/PVR and also wanted a few of the console games, my decision was in no way influenced by the inclusion of shitty 3rd party controllers (it was heavily influenced by the $2000 tax return I got in the weeks before, and even then I bought it second hand with a pile of games/controllers included), nor would I ever attempt to use ported PC controls.[/footnote] as they cost upwards of $110, it isn't unusual to see them as high as $120, hence it was bought for less than half of a new PS3 title).

Annoyingly, we've been responding to each other out of time. I don't really see how you can possibly be arguing with me, metal gear solid sells for what, $10 on psn? that game is 12 years old, and includes no expansions. Oblivion on steam, right now, which is half as old, is on sale for $8.50, including two expansions. If the price of old games detracts at the same rate, regardless of platform, how is it that the game that comes with expansions and is younger is the cheaper of the two? I'm beginning to doubt I'm going to change your mind on this one, you're very set in your belief and I very much doubt you'll consider any comparison I bother making adequate to prove me point.

 

[RubyT]

It would be a start for me. Although in the video it doesn't say if you can customize the controls. I'm a lefty, so if that thing is tied to the WASD-scheme, it's totally useless for me.
And the only PS3 exclusives I'd probably want to play are Heavy Rain and God of War, neither of which is a Keyboard & Mouse kind of game.

I think the number one reason for PC gamers to stick to their PC is that you can get the games for fr.... erm, cheaper.

Modding is nice, but how many mods does one really use? By nature of the situation, they come out months after the game, by that time, most people have moved on. There was a - for me - essential mod for CoD4:MW though, it let me turn off the f*cking music. Really appreciated that.

Graphics tend to be limited to what consoles can muster anyway. Few developers seem to make the effort of providing some hi-res textures (which they probably have lying around) and re-render some characters at higher polygon rates.
Also, the controls oftentimes are designed for the Gamepad.

So no, not at this time.

 

[Baneat]

My guess is that the mouse input on that device will be wildly inaccurate, much like the similar device for the 360. If they can make it as good as my normal mouse, then it has a shot, though that would be tantamount to cheating in online FPS. my guess is that it can't be as accurate. If you set the sensitivity to max on a console FPS, the fastest it can go is not even close to fast enough for a mouse, which uses a very different method of aiming (flicking instead of sweeping)

 

[Treblaine]

directly compared this peripheral with PC gaming.

Not really, I see it as the best of both worlds for PC only gamers, get to play PS3 exclusives on a control system there comfy with.

It still remains to be shown how effective this pseudo-mouse control setup actually is. I'd rather play with a functional gamepad interface than a broken mouse interface that costs 60 clams.

 

[omega 616]

My guess is that the mouse input on that device will be wildly inaccurate, much like the similar device for the 360. If they can make it as good as my normal mouse, then it has a shot, though that would be tantamount to cheating in online FPS. my guess is that it can't be as accurate. If you set the sensitivity to max on a console FPS, the fastest it can go is not even close to fast enough for a mouse, which uses a very different method of aiming (flicking instead of sweeping)

Have you maxed the settings on MW2 on the PS3 (atleast)? Everything blurs and I genuinely got dizzy or motion sickness not sure which. So to me anyway it's too fast for normal use.

 

[derdeutschmachine]

No. My PC can runs circles around any console. A keyboard and mouse would not grant any incentive to me or others like me.

 

[RobCoxxy]

In a word: FUCKNO.

 

[Sebenko]

Thanks for the info!

How much to connect my PC to my TV?!? Jeepers!

Edit, at the bottom it says "Q- hi could i connect my pc tower to a tv with this? - dan

Answer- No sorry this product does not support that."

Well, it was just a quick search as an example.

I can get any new AAA release for about $40 two weeks after it comes out as apposed to the $65-70 CDN release price stores ask for. Dont give me that crap that you have never seen a new exclusive pc game for more then £25. Sure indie games dont cost that much but any major pc release will be atleast $40 american. Im not trying to confuse you by throwing around so many different currencies but im not sure the us to euro exchange rate. Its the same with the console and the PC games are only expensive if you buy them from the first place you look.

According to Google, US$36.80 is £25. And yes, I have never seen a new PC exclusive for more than £25. I've seen Mass Effect 2 and Metro 2033 for £35 on PC (which is too much), but an exclusive is never more than £25. STALKER, M&B:Warband (Bad example, I know)... PC games in stores are virtually ignored (and then they wonder why Steam is so popular...), which is why the exclusives are cheap.

 

[Count Igor]

I like PC because it's a PC.

It's versatile, more usefull, able to build your own etc...

I don't like other consoles getting Keyboard/Mouse, it seems like there's nothing left for them to do, just copy others.

But anyway, I like my PC because it's a PC.
I dislike all other gaming consoles.

 

[Thirsk]

Does the PS3 run Heroes III? No?

Then no.

 

[Calhoun347]

Not at all. I have friends with the consoles and the exclusives selection isn't enticing enough for me to want to buy my own. Keyboard and mouse support is fine, but who cares? The only thing it can do that my PC can't is play it's exclusive titles. And there are many, many things my PC can do that a PS3 can't (Which is not to necessarily fault the hardware, hell, before, with a Linux partition, you could probably do most things I could, but you see how Sony Screwed that up.)

Plus, I get better graphical quality with my PC.

 

[Zhukov]

Why would I buy a PS3 just so I can do things that my PC can already do?