A veiw on Female characters and Armor. {Discussion}

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The_ModeRazor

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I prefer female characters wearing heavy plate, simply because it is an obvious subversion of a ridiculous cliche.
But then again, Kratos hardly wears anything other than a skirt, and nobody is whining about it being "unrealistic". Although realism was never a priority in GoW games.
 

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BoredRolePlayer said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but it's a video game who cares?
Well quite a few people, especially the female demographic. I mean if you were only ever depicted in the most basic of ways, disregarding everything else, you would be a bit annoyed as well.
 

jthm419

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Oh look, this thread again.

PROTIP: All realism of functionality of armor, clothing, and weapons should have left the building when you start playing a game of elves, orcs, fairies and people casting magic, throwing fireballs and lightning bolts along with healing wounds, raising the dead or respawning.
 

live2laugh

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I always play a female charatcter and it upsets me a lot when my char doesn;t have pretty armour. It sounds very sad I know but if I have to look at it for long periods of time I was nicely designed armour that doesn't show everything but also looks awesome. Also the second picture looks so badass, which is what you want for a character.
 

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Antonio Barrientes said:
Hilde may be one of the most unbalanced characters in Soul Calibur 4

But she also manages to wear practical, functional, yet attractive looking armor.
Excellent point, and welcome to the Escapist. I've always liked Hilde because of her armor, especially in a game as full of tits as Soul Calibur.

Of course, there is the damaged outfits function, which means if Hilde loses, she might be nekkid by the end.
 

shootandshiver

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The armor should cover the entire body and make mirror impressions of the fun parts. at least thats my dream. I aint learning rendering software though.

Dont know why i said that. Cant not post.
 

BoredRolePlayer

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Eefness said:
BoredRolePlayer said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but it's a video game who cares?
Well quite a few people, especially the female demographic. I mean if you were only ever depicted in the most basic of ways, disregarding everything else, you would be a bit annoyed as well.
Well then I move we ban all gangster rappers then. You see how silly it sounds, and I also call that the image of gamers are losers be removed also.
 

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jthm419 said:
Oh look, this thread again.

PROTIP: All realism of functionality of armor, clothing, and weapons should have left the building when you start playing a game of elves, orcs, fairies and people casting magic, throwing fireballs and lightning bolts along with healing wounds, raising the dead or respawning.
Better question, Why does it have to be removed?

Can't we throw in zombies into medieval era, Yet have it still function correctly and stop bites?

Somethings can be controlled variables, Why can't realistic armor be?

By the way, I am a guy...
 

jthm419

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If realism was thrown into a fantasy land, then I'd have to ask this. What armor do you think is going to stop my lightning bolt?
 

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jthm419 said:
If realism was thrown into a fantasy land, then I'd have to ask this. What armor do you think is going to stop my lightning bolt?
Obviously the one with lightning resistance, duh.
 

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Eefness said:
Then we get to the second, Bit too much skin? Not in the slightest, shows neither hide nor hair of the character while also being generic and only knowing it is female by the curves.
I actually like it more than anything else when you can say it is female just by the curves.
 

SonOfVoorhees

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First picture doesnt even look like armour.

Anyway. Sex sells, always have. Men have big muscles and woman are thin with big boobs. Except, men dont ***** about the sexist male characters in games. Men dont care. Woman do. But good armour and female sexuality can work, look at Mass Effect 2, the woman are fully clothed but show off their curves. So it can be done. But, also, making the woman look like a whore in whore armour where it is comiclly unrealistic isnt going to work. Most female armour is just the same as what a woman would where outside anyway. Hot pants and crop tops showing of their stomach. Its not like they are bare chested and running into battle hoping to distract the enemy with their breasts.

With men, you exaggerate and show big arms and chests. The woman its all curves, stomach and big breasts and maybe the ass. All games pander to an unreal male/female type. Thats cos no one wants to play as a nerdy fat guy or a flat chested fat woman. We want to be the hero, and the hero is the best looking specimen a person can be. Although there are a few that go against it.
 

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I've never understood why people hate "skimpy armor".

First, whenever women do it, it sort of strikes me as being feminist in the worst possible way, i.e. where a small, non-representative subset of women believe they are speaking for womankind everywhere. It's really odd, come to think of it: only women tend to assume they are speaking for their entire gender. The folks at that PAX panel are really guilty of this. It's not what these women really want from gaming, or what they think gaming needs, but what ALL women really want for games. It's an intriguing little phenomenon... you never seen men try to speak for their gender as a whole... just women.


Shit, I got off-topic, didn't I? Anyways, a lot of girls I've met playing MMOs like, or don't mind, skimpy armor. They like having their avatars look cute and attractive. Everyone likes an attractive female, including straight women (why the hell do you think magazines like Cosmo always have attractive women on the cover?). There are some that DO legitimately hate it, but nine times out of then, they are the "vocal minority". This is, of course, just based on my experience as a male and observer.

When men do it, it just strikes me as being pussywhipped. Women don't need your help defending themselves on the internet, nor do they need you campaigning for the sake of womankind. As a man, I never try to "defend" women, because quite frankly, they don't need defending. Honestly, it's regressive to sit around and "white knight" women. They're grown-ups too... they don't need you making long paragraphs on the internet about how female armor in games is horrible and bad. They are more than capable of doing it themselves if they feel so inclined.

The_ModeRazor said:
I prefer female characters wearing heavy plate, simply because it is an obvious subversion of a ridiculous cliche.
But then again, Kratos hardly wears anything other than a skirt, and nobody is whining about it being "unrealistic". Although realism was never a priority in GoW games.
... I don't know when "realism" has been a priority to any fantasy game, let alone God of War. Isn't it a bit of an oxymoron to juxtapose those two words anyways?

I mean, if we were REALLY being realistic, if you wore plate armor, then you'd move around at am absolute snail's pace, have to constantly hydrate or risk death, and you couldn't take off your armor without having two other people in your party with you. I've always assumed all pretense of realism goes out the window with fantasy. A "realistic fantasy" game would be totally and absolutely boring. If a bunch of pixels shaped like a woman showing off too much flesh is where you draw the line, then I really cannot even begin to understand how you got past the plethora of fantasy races, fucking magic, and the dozens of other things that aren't "realistic" in a fantasy game.
 

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I think that skimpy female clothes shouldn't be the ONLY option, but I do think that it should be AN option.
 

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BoredRolePlayer said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but it's a video game who cares?
If you don't care about video games, why are you here?
jthm419 said:
Oh look, this thread again.

PROTIP: All realism of functionality of armor, clothing, and weapons should have left the building when you start playing a game of elves, orcs, fairies and people casting magic, throwing fireballs and lightning bolts along with healing wounds, raising the dead or respawning.
Games don't have to be realistic, but they have to make sense within the world. In most games about elves, orcs, fairies and magic, there is no explanation as to why females are always wearing bikinis to battle, nor is there an explanation for how they come back from said battles with all their limbs. High-tier armor generally has the excuse of "it's magic armor," which is acceptable if said magic remains consistent within the universe.
 

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ultrachicken said:
Games don't have to be realistic, but they have to make sense within the world. In most games about elves, orcs, fairies and magic, there is no explanation as to why females are always wearing bikinis to battle, nor is there an explanation for how they come back from said battles with all their limbs. High-tier armor generally has the excuse of "it's magic armor," which is acceptable if said magic remains consistent within the universe.
There's also no explanation as to why NEITHER gender loses limbs, much less just females. Why don't males lose limbs when they wear lighter armors like cloth or leather? Why are females the ONLY gender who need to have lack of limb loss explained away? If justification why females don't lose limbs when where the mythical "chainmail bikini," then why are males exempt from such an explanation either? You make no sense.
 

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I came into this expecting sexism, and I got it, not from the people, (mostly) who have been very mature about this. (for once) But from the subject. I would prefer it if you could just choose at the start of a game, if you want to look like a slut, practical and attractive, or a wall of plate mail. Or, failing that, both genders being equally revealing, instead of just the women. Or, different stats on the skimpy things. Example; Wearing plate mail doesn't look that great, but it keeps you safe. Wearing that cloth bikini you bought to impress the people who can't even see you in real life, gets you killed in one hit.