A warning to all who feel Depression: Prozac isn't that good.

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Never make the mistake of thinking Valium is an anti-depressant. It certainly is not, as I found out to my cost. All it did was make me even more depressed. To be honest, having taken acid recently on a warm sunny summers day, I think I can say that it was a properly life re-assuring experience. It was absolutely incredible and definitely something that I would do again. Though I wouldn't take it if you have something on your mind becuase bad thoughts can cause a bad trip, and bad trips can ruin happy people.
 

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Valksy said:
The only ONLY input that I would ever even dare to have on someone's medication is those under the age of 18 who have been prescribed Paxil (also called Seroxat), speak to your Doctor had have you meds re-tuned to something suited and tested for those under 18.
Yeah but that would be a position shared by many governmental organisations responsible for testing and allowing drugs for release (such as the US FDA) and supported by quite a bit of clinical testing, so it's not like you're taking one or two annecdotes and just running with them.


Yes, thanks, I know there are people "worse off than me".
There are also people better off than you, so it all balances out...
 

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RhomCo said:
Yes, thanks, I know there are people "worse off than me".
There are also people better off than you, so it all balances out...
Aha, that's an angle I honestly hadn't thought of before. "You think you're happy? There are people born with all the money they could ever want, natural beauty to match the highest paid supermodels in the business, and loving parents who give them everything they could wish for. There are people in this world who face no larger troubles in their lives than deciding where to go for lunch - let's be honest, now, your life isn't really that good, is it?" I love it. Thanks for pointing that out.

Ubermetalhed said:
Yes depression in cases is due to mental disorders (i.e bipolar), but on the whole depression is bullshit. Everyone feels seriously down at some point in their lives, i've been there and thought about the whole dying thing but did i take drugs or think i was medically depressed NO, because there is no such thing
This is really funny, because it's like you're saying "sure, water can fall from the sky (rain, for example) but there's clearly no such thing as water vapor. I mean, I have made pasta before, and I know that the amount of water in the pot goes down after a while, but did little rain clouds form around my kitchen ceiling? Hell no."

If you ever meet someone who's been diagnosed with depression, I don't suppose you'd mind... Not trying to give them advice? You don't have to coddle them, or anything, but if you could try to aim for having a neutral effect on their mental state, rather than trying to give them some tough love to "snap them back to reality", or however you might think of it. I'm not trying to make a joke, here - I'd really appreciate it if you didn't involve yourself, if this is the kind of mindset you have.
 

Ubermetalhed

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RhomCo said:
Yes, thanks, I know there are people "worse off than me".
There are also people better off than you, so it all balances out...
Aha, that's an angle I honestly hadn't thought of before. "You think you're happy? There are people born with all the money they could ever want, natural beauty to match the highest paid supermodels in the business, and loving parents who give them everything they could wish for. There are people in this world who face no larger troubles in their lives than deciding where to go for lunch - let's be honest, now, your life isn't really that good, is it?" I love it. Thanks for pointing that out.

Ubermetalhed said:
Yes depression in cases is due to mental disorders (i.e bipolar), but on the whole depression is bullshit. Everyone feels seriously down at some point in their lives, i've been there and thought about the whole dying thing but did i take drugs or think i was medically depressed NO, because there is no such thing
This is really funny, because it's like you're saying "sure, water can fall from the sky (rain, for example) but there's clearly no such thing as water vapor. I mean, I have made pasta before, and I know that the amount of water in the pot goes down after a while, but did little rain clouds form around my kitchen ceiling? Hell no."

If you ever meet someone who's been diagnosed with depression, I don't suppose you'd mind... Not trying to give them advice? You don't have to coddle them, or anything, but if you could try to aim for having a neutral effect on their mental state, rather than trying to give them some tough love to "snap them back to reality", or however you might think of it. I'm not trying to make a joke, here - I'd really appreciate it if you didn't involve yourself, if this is the kind of mindset you have.
Ok, you've got me on the first point, what i was trying to say is that for most people depression isn't really medical at all, it's self indulgence which the person in question doesn't realise or want to admit. Bipolar is real, as is post natal. But the fact so many people claim they have clinical depression is ridiculous, depression is a modern concept.

On the second, i have given my 'tough love' advice and it has worked for friends and people I know. I'll give you that it might not work on some, but i believe it is the best method and judging from my own experience i havn't been proven wrong, where as the 'neutrals' and doctors have only helped the person dwell in their state and even believe that they are genetically or medically depressed.

Most people who claim to be medically depressed seem to be set off, like the OP, by love problems. Doesn't this seem a little ridiculous, it's merely heartbreak everyone gets it and GETS OVER IT in time. I mean why aren't all those people stricken with poverty in 3rd world countries and those who have truly awful lives diagnosed as depressives? Depression is a modern and western concept that is unfortunately ever growing. More and more people whom have great lives approach minor struggles as a subconscious call to believe they are 'depressed'.

Society is doing nothing to change this and if doctors continue to give medications and the media continually reinforces that this actually exists, more and more people are going to give in to normal misfortune and claim they are clinically depressed.
 

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Jack and Calumon said:
Then she sends me a video of her with another guy, having sex.
BURN HER AT THE STAKE

RIP THE FLESH

SALT THE WOUND

CONSUME THE REMAINS

But seriously, what kind of wicked person does that?
 

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My opinion on anti-depressants? I find it depressing how many people say they have 'chronic depression' here, and while I'm generally a really optimistic person (wee, look at me, going against what is dominant on The Escapist), I'm sure I don't really understand 'chronic depression' fully, but I would never, ever resort to drugs for that sort of thing.
 

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This post is going to act as an FAQ of sorts. If you don't care, then fly away.

Ubermetalhed said:
Ok, you've got me on the first point, what i was trying to say is that for most people depression isn't really medical at all, it's self indulgence which the person in question doesn't realise or want to admit. Bipolar is real, as is post natal. But the fact so many people claim they have clinical depression is ridiculous, depression is a modern concept.

I am currently Diagnosed with Mild Spectrum Autism. This has caused me to be OCD, have almost cyclical lifestyle and causes me to hate change. Depression kicks in every now and again for no reason and hit me hard. I tried to cut my own throat and break my own skull once and I still to this day, have no clue why. It's fair to say, that this is Medical.

On the second, i have given my 'tough love' advice and it has worked for friends and people I know. I'll give you that it might not work on some, but i believe it is the best method and judging from my own experience i havn't been proven wrong, where as the 'neutrals' and doctors have only helped the person dwell in their state and even believe that they are genetically or medically depressed.

My Doctor is kind of weird. He is sympathetic, understanding and kind, but he clearly does think that drugs are the best method. Not just me but others too. He has been kind and supportive.

Most people who claim to be medically depressed seem to be set off, like the OP, by love problems. Doesn't this seem a little ridiculous, it's merely heartbreak everyone gets it and GETS OVER IT in time. I mean why aren't all those people stricken with poverty in 3rd world countries and those who have truly awful lives diagnosed as depressives? Depression is a modern and western concept that is unfortunately ever growing. More and more people whom have great lives approach minor struggles as a subconscious call to believe they are 'depressed'.

There is actually a small flaw there coming straight from my psychiatrist. Depression in Autism is trigger based and severe. The slightest thing could cause me to go into depression. Take a scenario and I'll think too deep into it and believe that the worse case scenario will happen. Obviously, I know that there are people worse off than me, but you know, saying that doesn't help. It actually makes things worse by causing people to feel so much more guilty for what they are doing. A reason why they aren't depressed is because they have hope. They have high hopes and that's what I admire about them. I could go on, but I'll go off topic.

Society is doing nothing to change this and if doctors continue to give medications and the media continually reinforces that this actually exists, more and more people are going to give in to normal misfortune and claim they are clinically depressed.

You make a fair point and I respect it. Clinical depression is tossed around far too often. Girls claim to be depressed after a small fall out with a friend. Then again, teenage years are when people become emotional due to hormones kicking in. World spins etc. I can safely say that, with Medical Proof, I suffer from depression. I have had it for about 5 years now and have been on the Prozac for 2 years. Sort of a ritual to take one every morning. Coming off them, don't need them much anymore. Just a crisis is all.
Calumon: I'm not here due to Autism! He found me!! >.<
 

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Jack and Calumon said:
This post is going to act as an FAQ of sorts. If you don't care, then fly away.

Ubermetalhed said:
Ok, you've got me on the first point, what i was trying to say is that for most people depression isn't really medical at all, it's self indulgence which the person in question doesn't realise or want to admit. Bipolar is real, as is post natal. But the fact so many people claim they have clinical depression is ridiculous, depression is a modern concept.

I am currently Diagnosed with Mild Spectrum Autism. This has caused me to be OCD, have almost cyclical lifestyle and causes me to hate change. Depression kicks in every now and again for no reason and hit me hard. I tried to cut my own throat and break my own skull once and I still to this day, have no clue why. It's fair to say, that this is Medical.

On the second, i have given my 'tough love' advice and it has worked for friends and people I know. I'll give you that it might not work on some, but i believe it is the best method and judging from my own experience i havn't been proven wrong, where as the 'neutrals' and doctors have only helped the person dwell in their state and even believe that they are genetically or medically depressed.

My Doctor is kind of weird. He is sympathetic, understanding and kind, but he clearly does think that drugs are the best method. Not just me but others too. He has been kind and supportive.

Most people who claim to be medically depressed seem to be set off, like the OP, by love problems. Doesn't this seem a little ridiculous, it's merely heartbreak everyone gets it and GETS OVER IT in time. I mean why aren't all those people stricken with poverty in 3rd world countries and those who have truly awful lives diagnosed as depressives? Depression is a modern and western concept that is unfortunately ever growing. More and more people whom have great lives approach minor struggles as a subconscious call to believe they are 'depressed'.

There is actually a small flaw there coming straight from my psychiatrist. Depression in Autism is trigger based and severe. The slightest thing could cause me to go into depression. Take a scenario and I'll think too deep into it and believe that the worse case scenario will happen. Obviously, I know that there are people worse off than me, but you know, saying that doesn't help. It actually makes things worse by causing people to feel so much more guilty for what they are doing. A reason why they aren't depressed is because they have hope. They have high hopes and that's what I admire about them. I could go on, but I'll go off topic.

Society is doing nothing to change this and if doctors continue to give medications and the media continually reinforces that this actually exists, more and more people are going to give in to normal misfortune and claim they are clinically depressed.

You make a fair point and I respect it. Clinical depression is tossed around far too often. Girls claim to be depressed after a small fall out with a friend. Then again, teenage years are when people become emotional due to hormones kicking in. World spins etc. I can safely say that, with Medical Proof, I suffer from depression. I have had it for about 5 years now and have been on the Prozac for 2 years. Sort of a ritual to take one every morning. Coming off them, don't need them much anymore. Just a crisis is all.
Calumon: I'm not here due to Autism! He found me!! >.<
I didn't realise you had autism fella, so i'm sorry if my comments offended you in any way. But i still hold my claims to others who don't have such illnesses and claim depression.
 

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Jack and Calumon said:
OI! Where the frak is Calumon?

Patamon: I miss him[/B]

OH! A Patamon! Them's be goo eatin! *chases*

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OT: I thought Prozac was like a Caffiene Pill? Im sorry about your ex being so manipulative, But some people are nasty.

What you can hope is that she gets pregnant and never succeeds in life.

Ive never taken anti Depressants, I dont dare, I'd probably end up getting addicted.
 

Jinx_Dragon

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Zolofts are nasty too.

Zombiefication for a while, your mind just not thinking any real emotions and just uncaring of everything around you. Couple that with the fact your looking at a poison you can over dose on. Lucky when I had that thought I was in a logical mindset, and it just didn't make sense to give a poison to a depression sufferer.

Stopped cold on that date and clearly alive.
 

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Pielikey said:
Send the sex video to her Dad! It'll make you feel much better, I guarantee it.

Seriously, I hope you get better. I never used depression meds, but some of the medication I've used really fucked with my head.
El Poncho said:
Send the video to her parents.
DO THIS, DO THIS, DO THIS!!!

My god, vengence is sweet!

Plus, no guilt, because she obviously knew about your depression, but STILL decided to be A) Cold-hearted ***** and B) a Whore
 

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Jack and Calumon said:
Happy snip
I love you too.

... What? I got caught up in the moment :(

Jack and Calumon said:
I've suffered from depression for a long time, mainly due to the fact that it took me a long time to realise "who I was". I came to the annoying conclusion that while I was good with people, I couldn't handle "being in a group". Anyhow who gives a fuck about that! What I was going to go on and say is that I've never seen the point in taking meds for it. I'm more than capable (well, apart from once or twice in the past) with handling my own emotions.
 

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Jack and Calumon said:
Right, first of all, after a bath, a long sleep and so much exercise I can't feel my legs. I felt better.

I read through your comments before I went out and did the one suggestion that stuck was the one half of you have been suggesting. Guess what it is?

I shown the parents the video. And christ things went mental for the best in my case. Bad for her though... really bad.

After showing both Mom and Dad that video, they asked me whether I was joking. They could see the sadness in my eyes they said, and knew I wasn't joking. They also recognised the boy in the video. I'm not going to go into detail but that boy was actually 22 on the day that the video was shown. The girl in question, is 16. So...

scumofsociety said:
There are sites on the internet that pay good money for amateur porn. Send her a card with a photo of you with your brand new whatever and the message 'this is the X I bought with the money I got for your video from XXX-amateur-sluts.com' with a link to her video...and then send the link to her parents with a 'concerned' note.
If she's 16, I don't think that sending it to the internet would be a good idea. At all. Ever.

She walked in just as I was leaving and asked "What the hell are you doing here?"

I smiled and placed my hand in her shoulder and whispered "Fuck you, they know."

She then shouted "What" at the top of her voice and the rest is unknown to me, but the neighbour to them, a friend of mine, said that the racket from the house was so loud that most of the street went to complain. Rightly so, if you knew the details which for the purpose of identity protection, I shall not reveal, but know this, there is a damned good reason I'm not,
So. Much. Win. My avatar was pretty much me while reading this. You, sir, are a god among men....Even if the whole Calumon thing is cringe worthy.

Reminds me of this one other story I seen. In a nutshell, guy got new camera and left it on record, ex came around sobbing about her being preggers, guy says "Blow me" in a "Piss off" kind of way, she does, guy refuses to help her, she cries rape to the cops to try and get revenge, he notices he recorded it before the cops got there, he acts guilty as hell and, as the jury was off making their verdict, he told his lawyer about the video. Embarrassed her in front of the whole court and was found not-guilty.

Anyway, my rambling aside, nice one, mate. Way to stick 2 fingers up to your ex and get the last laugh. Sound like she deserved it.
 

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Jack and Calumon said:
Currently, I just got viciously dumped by my girlfriend who I thought was a good person. Then she sends me a video of her with another guy, having sex.
1. Put the video on usb and mail it to her parents
2. Post it all over the internet
3. ?????
4. Profit!!
 

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Good thing I'm taking Zoloft.

I jest, as that doesn't seem to be helping anything either, and for the past couple days I've been feeling emotional malaise and the ever-popular thoughts of the "What is the point of (my) life?" persuasion.

Jinx_Dragon said:
Zolofts are nasty too.

Zombiefication for a while, your mind just not thinking any real emotions and just uncaring of everything around you. Couple that with the fact your looking at a poison you can over dose on. Lucky when I had that thought I was in a logical mindset, and it just didn't make sense to give a poison to a depression sufferer.

Stopped cold on that date and clearly alive.
Oh, why hello there!
 

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Johnnyallstar said:
It blows my mind that there is such an epidemic of "depression" out there. Now, I'm a bit of an optimist myself, but there's only one thing I have to say.

To all those suffering from depression:

There are people all over Africa suffering from far more than just being depressed. Starvation, disease, homelessness, wild animals, drought, civil wars, marauders, pirates, warlords, genocide, slavery and more.

Your personal problems really aren't that bad, now are they?
Where does that end? My parents fought. That's nothing, the kid's parents down the street got divorced. That's nothing, some other kid's parents were killed in an accident. That's nothing, some other kid had his entire family executed. I guess nobody has real problems except that last guy, huh? I guess they're not allowed to get depressed?

Getting perspective is one thing, but it's never a good idea to cavalierly dismiss somebody's problems just because someone else somewhere has worse ones. And if they are depressed, telling them that they don't have real problems isn't going to make them feel any better, is it?

And towards the OP: Jesus. Your ex wins "worst human being I've seen on the internet this week," which, believe me, is up against some pretty stiff competition. You've got my sympathy, for whatever it's worth to you.