Not all Germans are Nazis, yes everyone seems to know that but surprisingly I've seen posts on the escapist that imply that they don't know that not all Germans that fought in WW2 are Nazis.
about nazi germany.
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im pretty sure that the same can be said for most 'first world' countries, but america seems to be getting all the blame. maybe its because america tries to fix everybody elses problems but sometimes cant. and then gets blamed for failure.moshineko said:
Because even with a crumbling economy, for a great, great majority of Americans, you don't have to worry about eating. There's somewhere, someone, you can go to for help.
Had an online friend from Mexico, talked with him back before things got so crazy down there. He told me that every day when he went to work, he'd pray that a certain bus driver wouldn't be working. If that one bus driver was working, it meant that my friend would have to pay three times the bus fare in bribes in order to take the bus. When he approached the cops about it, they told him that he should either fuck off and mind his own business, or be prepared to pay even more to avoid being arrested.
I grew up without running water and adequate heat in my home, but I still can't imagine not being able to approach a police officer for help. I work with first-generation immigrants from Africa who are flabbergasted that they get the same amount of pay each week, that they can work as much or as little as they like, and that Americans get to be so lazy.
As far as crumbling economy, speak to someone from Zimbabwe or France, ask them how poor and starving us pitiable Americans are.
Insurance? Don't make me laugh. You don't need insurance to go to the hospital for life-saving procedures, that's the law. And I've got unpaid medical bills from a decade ago that I've never been approached by lawyers about. In Japan, where they regulate the max cost for medical procedures, doctors charge outrageous parking fees, charge for extras, charge for what they can so they can keep the place running. In Cuba, they had great, great, wonderful medical care for everyone, but they couldn't keep their medications in stock. When was the last time you went to a pharmacy or hospital and they told you they couldn't fill your prescription for penicillin or tylenol?
Face it, even poor, America is richer and more powerful than a good seventy-five percent of the world. And we didn't really do much to earn it. I don't blame anyone for being jealous, I would be too. I just try to feel thankful that I'm in a safe, rich country.
Had an online friend from Mexico, talked with him back before things got so crazy down there. He told me that every day when he went to work, he'd pray that a certain bus driver wouldn't be working. If that one bus driver was working, it meant that my friend would have to pay three times the bus fare in bribes in order to take the bus. When he approached the cops about it, they told him that he should either fuck off and mind his own business, or be prepared to pay even more to avoid being arrested.
I grew up without running water and adequate heat in my home, but I still can't imagine not being able to approach a police officer for help. I work with first-generation immigrants from Africa who are flabbergasted that they get the same amount of pay each week, that they can work as much or as little as they like, and that Americans get to be so lazy.
As far as crumbling economy, speak to someone from Zimbabwe or France, ask them how poor and starving us pitiable Americans are.
Insurance? Don't make me laugh. You don't need insurance to go to the hospital for life-saving procedures, that's the law. And I've got unpaid medical bills from a decade ago that I've never been approached by lawyers about. In Japan, where they regulate the max cost for medical procedures, doctors charge outrageous parking fees, charge for extras, charge for what they can so they can keep the place running. In Cuba, they had great, great, wonderful medical care for everyone, but they couldn't keep their medications in stock. When was the last time you went to a pharmacy or hospital and they told you they couldn't fill your prescription for penicillin or tylenol?
Face it, even poor, America is richer and more powerful than a good seventy-five percent of the world. And we didn't really do much to earn it. I don't blame anyone for being jealous, I would be too. I just try to feel thankful that I'm in a safe, rich country.
I agree World War 1 was not Germany's fault, they were just aiding an ally. World War 2 on the other hand was almost completely their fault.(In Europe at least)
Serbian assassin - Gavrilo Princip.Aiden_the-Joker1 said:
GrinningManiac said:
I'm not sure I understand why it was Serbia's and Bosnia's fault.
The US went to WWI & WWII only after something happened to them.
WWI - U-Boat sank Lusitania with 128 American passengers aboard. America goes to war.
WWII - Japan attacks Pearl Harbor. America goes to war.
Allies win - America proclaims itself king of the world and the big cheese.
Let's not forget the whole locking up the "Japanese-American citizens" process that went on after Pearl Harbor.
In my eyes (regarding WWI) - the Dual Monarchy is the biggest scum.
Regarding WWII - Germany, of course, is the biggest scum.
I dare say however, America's politics, are by far the most hypocritical during WWI, WWII and in the later period of the 20th century (which is offtopic, thus I will not go into detail about it).
I hate it when people blame an entire group of people for something that happened many years ago. I'm not saying it's okay to forget what happened, just that they shouldn't see the Germans of today in the same light as the Nazis. Although I haven't seen much naked hatred of Germans on these forums. I might not be looking hard enough, though.
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They also hate us because we are arrogant, try to solve everyone else's problems, and assume everyone is jelouse of us because we are rich. And by rich I mean some trillion dollers in debt.brodie21 said:
I suggest you read up on your history..or watch more of your Dr Who.GiantRedButton said:
The NSDAP won more and more seats in legal and democratic election until he was given the chancellorship. Then he passed the enabling act combining his position with that of the president giving him total power. All of these actions were voted on and passed either by national elections or by democratically elected officials.
Well thanks for that well informed counter there...Jester00 said:read a book.lostzombies.com said:
first: i think 90% of the germans hate nazis
second: hitler wasn't german
I know of the Assassination, and the treaties. But it was all technical, it didn't seem like a real reason.HerrBobo said:
I guess war being a form of foreign policy would certainly explain, or at least help explain it. Thanks for the insight.
er, the germans WERE solely responsible for those wars... they started them. both times. consistently.caspertjuhh said:
circumstances and mitigating factors mean nothing, end of the day, the germans struck first and generally struck hard, then lost. tough shit, live with it.
How? The state of Israel was planned to be given 54% of Palestine by the UN, that alone is a little outragous but it's also aceptable. BUT the sionists took the landarea before the UN had made the greenlight for it. Now certein groups of palestinian citizents would start fighting back, resulting in giving the Israeli goverment a reason to start pushing the borders. (Taking other peapole's land, check! "la resistance", check!) after 60 years of occupation now the Palestinian goverment is non existent and most of the people live in closed in quarters, some are even shot at for training purposes! Israeli citizents throw poo at them in the streets because they are brainwashed by their goverment that "they bad". just like the germans with jews, and the americans with muslims in general.bladeofdarkness said:
I think you are comparing soldiers lives with lives of innocent civilians. It may sound a bit cruel, but soldiers accept/sing up that they are going to die. That's why Pearl Harbor wasn't a war crime, and why bombing hiroshima and nagasaki was.brodie21 said:
The economic downfall was, to my understanding, some slavic country's fault. Can't remember which and I very much don't care, as for the nukes, they introduced the term "Mutually assured destruction", or as I like to call it "peace" into the world.caspertjuhh said:
Its easy to point the finger at a big target and critisize it, Americas done quite alot of good in the world, regardless of the reasoning behind it. (Now we just have to hope someone goes looking for oil in Iran)
Actually Austria was quite responsible for both, since the assassinating of Austria's heir triggered a couple of chain reactions which led to a european war.caspertjuhh said:
And as the most of us will know, Adolf Hitler was Austrian.
I think you need to look further than whatever magazine or blog you read that crap out of, would be happy to compare notes with you if you're open minded. If not, well not much point getting into it for me. I'll leave this though, neither side 'smells like a banquet of roses'.Renamedsin said: