Amazon UK Wii U sales rank jump by 875% following Xbox One reveal

[EstrogenicMuscle]

Looks like my initial reaction to the XBone reveal - "This thing is going to go the way of the Dreamcast" - is looking to hold true. :3

It better not sell as well as the Dreamcast did.

The Dreamcast deserves better than that.

Spoiler

Poor Dreamcast. I miss thee.

Actually, there's no system I'm completely happy with comparing the XBOX One to. Because none of those systems has used lockout DRM. I'm comfortable with the Phillips CD-i and Atari Jaguar, though.

Dreamcast.;_;

 

[RJ 17]

Looks like my initial reaction to the XBone reveal - "This thing is going to go the way of the Dreamcast" - is looking to hold true. :3

It better not sell as well as the Dreamcast did.

The Dreamcast deserves better than that.

Spoiler

Poor Dreamcast. I miss thee.

Actually, there's no system I'm completely happy with comparing the XBOX One to. Because none of those systems has used lockout DRM. I'm comfortable with the Phillips CD-i and Atari Jaguar, though.

Dreamcast.;_;

The comparison was that the Dreamcast tried to do too much and ended up falling flat on it's face in the long run, I'd imagine that the XBone will do the same.

Personally I went with the 360 over the PS3, but before that I was a PS2 player. More and more it's looking like I'll be heading back over to Sony...if I even bother getting a console from this generation.

 

[fix-the-spade]

Isn't it too early to tell? I'm no console gamer, but to me the Xbox One doesn't look as bad as people make it out to be.

It has to be connected to the internet once every day or it blocks you from use, if the service or your web goes down, the clock on your Xbone won't stop. Launch day is going to make the Simcity, Battlelog and Steam launches look decidedly pretty by comparison (also add in Starcraft II, Diablo III, Planetside 2, every always online launch ever).

Unless Microsoft make a huge U turn on some of it's decisions it really is going to be 'that bad' come release week.

 

[Bobic]

http://playeressence.com/amazon-uk-wii-u-sales-rank-jumps-by-875-following-microsofts-xbox-one-reveal/?fb_source=pubv1

Yeah, not much else to say here. The Xbone and the PS4 aren't even out yet and Nintendo has already won this generation's console war.

I..

What the fuck did I just read? So you're saying the console that's the hardest to port games to PC from and has many developers saying "fuck it, i'm out of here" has won?

875% is the kind of increase you get when coming off an extremely low base. Nothing else.

Yeesh man, calm down. Is this really something worth getting angry over?

You're right, I'm sorry I'm allergic to bullshit.

Christ, this could have been an Andy Chalk article if you'd just added a picture.

Oh come on! Please go back and explain to me how any of your reaction has been warranted. You're seriously over reacting here.

I did in the edit. You've misrepresented everything that your linked article said. Amazon sales rank increased? THAT MUST MEAN THEY SOLD 875x MORE! BECAUSE FUCK MATHS!

Seriously?

Okay, first, unless everything else in the world above the WiiU in rank yesterday suddenly stopped selling, increase in sales rank = increase in sales. Personally, not believing in coincidence except in the rare case where it is the only explanation (meaning 'there is no explanation'), I'll go ahead and associate the WiiU's jump in rank* with it's sales increasing. Assuming that everything else stayed roughly the same price and sold roughly the same amount of units, that should equate to the WiiU's sales shooting up 875%.

I'm just gonna have to rock in and point out that that's not true. Imagine that whatever's in 40th place was selling 499 unit products in whatever unit time, and the Wii U in 300th place or whatever it was, was selling 250. For it to move up to 40th place would take a 100% increase in sales, with a movement of 875%, while everything else continues selling the same amount. Now, these are just numbers pulled from the aether, we have no idea what the Wii U's sales increase actually is, all we can say is there has been a significant spike in Wii U sales, which is still kinda hilarious.

On this topic, OP, could you change the title and OP so that it's not so misleading.

 

[fix-the-spade]

Actually, there's no system I'm completely happy with comparing the XBOX One to.

Virtual Boy?

Take a bad idea, run with it, keep running with it, run with it all the way off a cliff!

 

[Mr.Mattress]

Actually, there's no system I'm completely happy with comparing the XBOX One to.

Virtual Boy?

Take a bad idea, run with it, keep running with it, run with it all the way off a cliff!

What the Virtual Boy wanted to do wasn't really a bad idea though. If it was, Google Glasses and the Oculus Rift wouldn't exist. It's just that the Technology to do it was uber expensive at the time, so they went with cheap Red LED lights. If that was the bad idea you were referring to (Using Red LED Lights), then I would agree. If your referring to the whole Virtual Boy itself, then I disagree.

OT: Even if it's minute, it is an increase in sales, which is definitely a good thing for the WiiU. It just really needs some stupid games to really sale.

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

definitely shows just how BADLY the XBone reveal went. Their competitor just went from being ranked in the 300's to being in the top 50. I guess people were waiting on what the other systems were going to be like before committing. Thing is, the Wii U is out NOW and is going to be the cheapest of the trio, plus it's guaranteed to have Nintendo out sooner or later. This is going to be an interesting fall.

 

[Yopaz]

Well since the highest possible rank is 1 then it's technically correct to say that the rank increases when it goes from 2 to 1.

I do agree that there's a horrible use of math and statistics here, but could you explain how you got the 95% decrease?

90%, I used the wrong figures initially. 40 is ~10% of 390 (where it used to be), so the number dropped 90%.

However, on further review, it seems Amazon is the one fucking the math up first, the others were right, 390/40 is 9.75, that translated to 875%.

Actually, that's the factor. To calculate the increase in percentage you have to get the difference so it's actually:
(change in rank)/current rank=(390-40)/40=8,75=875%.

It should also be noted that Amazon didn't do this math and this is completely pointless to begin with.

 

[Requia]

Well since the highest possible rank is 1 then it's technically correct to say that the rank increases when it goes from 2 to 1.

I do agree that there's a horrible use of math and statistics here, but could you explain how you got the 95% decrease?

90%, I used the wrong figures initially. 40 is ~10% of 390 (where it used to be), so the number dropped 90%.

However, on further review, it seems Amazon is the one fucking the math up first, the others were right, 390/40 is 9.75, that translated to 875%.

Actually, that's the factor. To calculate the increase in percentage you have to get the difference so it's actually:
(change in rank)/current rank=(390-40)/40=8,75=875%.

It should also be noted that Amazon didn't do this math and this is completely pointless to begin with.

Amazon did something. Your math is off though, have to subtract one from the multiplier to get the %. Though its possible Amazon is doing it your way.

 

[Hutcher]

This "875%" seems to be more or less meaningless. And I still feel like Nintendo may actually be in the worst position long-term, thanks to their usual problem with 3rd party development. Looks like development for the PS4 and Xbone will be roughly equivalent, just as development for the PS3 and X360 were roughly equivalent in Gen8. When all 3 systems are off and running in a couple years, Nintendo will again be in the awkward position of trying to convince 3rd parties that the unique features of the Wii-U are worth them making a game for their console at the expense of releasing it for the other two.

 

[Sectan]

Looks like Microsoft pulled another Xboner (Yay I get to say Xboner again!) Who seriously looked at the software for this console and thought "Yeah that's a GREAT idea." I don't know whether to laugh or just shake my head like a disappointed father would when his son just reversed the new Ferrari into a tree.

 

[fix-the-spade]

If that was the bad idea you were referring to (Using Red LED Lights), then I would agree. If your referring to the whole Virtual Boy itself, then I disagree.

I was thinking more along the line of taking a VR headset and trying to market/sell it as a handheld system (which is what the VB was supposed to be!).

The fundamental tech was good, it's good on the Xbone too, just the way it was/is being used is completely wrong.

 

[Yopaz]

Well since the highest possible rank is 1 then it's technically correct to say that the rank increases when it goes from 2 to 1.

I do agree that there's a horrible use of math and statistics here, but could you explain how you got the 95% decrease?

90%, I used the wrong figures initially. 40 is ~10% of 390 (where it used to be), so the number dropped 90%.

However, on further review, it seems Amazon is the one fucking the math up first, the others were right, 390/40 is 9.75, that translated to 875%.

Actually, that's the factor. To calculate the increase in percentage you have to get the difference so it's actually:
(change in rank)/current rank=(390-40)/40=8,75=875%.

It should also be noted that Amazon didn't do this math and this is completely pointless to begin with.

Amazon did something. Your math is off though, have to subtract one from the multiplier to get the %. Though its possible Amazon is doing it your way.

Read my post again AMAZON NEVER DID THE MATH, THAT WAS BULLSHIT DONE IN A SHITTY ARTICLE.
http://playeressence.com/amazon-uk-wii-u-sales-rank-jumps-by-875-following-microsofts-xbox-one-reveal/?fb_source=pubv1
That is the source claiming the rank increased 875%. THIS IS NOT AMAZON.
This is amazon:

The only thing Amazon does is saying the sales were 129% of yesterday's sales which actually means it has increased by 29%.
AMAZON DID NOT DO THE SHITTY ABOMINATION OF MATH OBSERVED IN THE ARTICLE ABOVE.
You were right about my math being off though. It should normally be (40-390)/40=-8.75=-875%, but the actual number is the same the difference is if we get a negative or a positive number because of that I switched them around in order to get a positive value since 1 is defined as the highest number. I hope that clears up the math at least.

 

[Requia]

Well since the highest possible rank is 1 then it's technically correct to say that the rank increases when it goes from 2 to 1.

I do agree that there's a horrible use of math and statistics here, but could you explain how you got the 95% decrease?

90%, I used the wrong figures initially. 40 is ~10% of 390 (where it used to be), so the number dropped 90%.

However, on further review, it seems Amazon is the one fucking the math up first, the others were right, 390/40 is 9.75, that translated to 875%.

Actually, that's the factor. To calculate the increase in percentage you have to get the difference so it's actually:
(change in rank)/current rank=(390-40)/40=8,75=875%.

It should also be noted that Amazon didn't do this math and this is completely pointless to begin with.

Amazon did something. Your math is off though, have to subtract one from the multiplier to get the %. Though its possible Amazon is doing it your way.

Read my post again AMAZON NEVER DID THE MATH, THAT WAS BULLSHIT DONE IN A SHITTY ARTICLE.
http://playeressence.com/amazon-uk-wii-u-sales-rank-jumps-by-875-following-microsofts-xbox-one-reveal/?fb_source=pubv1
That is the source claiming the rank increased 875%. THIS IS NOT AMAZON.
This is amazon:
The only thing Amazon does is saying the sales were 129% of yesterday's sales which actually means it has increased by 29%.
AMAZON DID NOT DO THE SHITTY ABOMINATION OF MATH OBSERVED IN THE ARTICLE ABOVE.
You were right about my math being off though. It should normally be (40-390)/40=-8.75=-875%, but the actual number is the same the difference is if we get a negative or a positive number because of that I switched them around in order to get a positive value since 1 is defined as the highest number. I hope that clears up the math at least.

You might want to actually read the article. Amazon updates those hourly, the article has a screenshot saying 875%.

Edit: wait, the screenshot must have been from the one posted to Reddit, sorry.

 

[Yopaz]

Well since the highest possible rank is 1 then it's technically correct to say that the rank increases when it goes from 2 to 1.

I do agree that there's a horrible use of math and statistics here, but could you explain how you got the 95% decrease?

90%, I used the wrong figures initially. 40 is ~10% of 390 (where it used to be), so the number dropped 90%.

However, on further review, it seems Amazon is the one fucking the math up first, the others were right, 390/40 is 9.75, that translated to 875%.

Actually, that's the factor. To calculate the increase in percentage you have to get the difference so it's actually:
(change in rank)/current rank=(390-40)/40=8,75=875%.

It should also be noted that Amazon didn't do this math and this is completely pointless to begin with.

Amazon did something. Your math is off though, have to subtract one from the multiplier to get the %. Though its possible Amazon is doing it your way.

Read my post again AMAZON NEVER DID THE MATH, THAT WAS BULLSHIT DONE IN A SHITTY ARTICLE.
http://playeressence.com/amazon-uk-wii-u-sales-rank-jumps-by-875-following-microsofts-xbox-one-reveal/?fb_source=pubv1
That is the source claiming the rank increased 875%. THIS IS NOT AMAZON.
This is amazon:
The only thing Amazon does is saying the sales were 129% of yesterday's sales which actually means it has increased by 29%.
AMAZON DID NOT DO THE SHITTY ABOMINATION OF MATH OBSERVED IN THE ARTICLE ABOVE.
You were right about my math being off though. It should normally be (40-390)/40=-8.75=-875%, but the actual number is the same the difference is if we get a negative or a positive number because of that I switched them around in order to get a positive value since 1 is defined as the highest number. I hope that clears up the math at least.

You might want to actually read the article. Amazon updates those hourly, the article has a screenshot saying 875%.

I have read that article several times and I have not seen a screenshot, please provide a link.

 

[nathan-dts]

http://playeressence.com/amazon-uk-wii-u-sales-rank-jumps-by-875-following-microsofts-xbox-one-reveal/?fb_source=pubv1

Yeah, not much else to say here. The Xbone and the PS4 aren't even out yet and Nintendo has already won this generation's console war. Though I'm still willing to give the PS4 a shot, the Xbone reveal turned out to be the ultimate advertising campaign for Microsoft's rivals.

The Wii U price on Amazon was £13.00 when I went to check. I have a feeling that the sales jump is due to that. You should amend your original post.

Seemed to be the 8GB basic model and the 32GB Monster Hunter model.

 

[Yopaz]

You might want to actually read the article. Amazon updates those hourly, the article has a screenshot saying 875%.

Edit: wait, the screenshot must have been from the one posted to Reddit, sorry.

Aaah, OK then. However the math is correct given the circumstances. It's just utterly pointless to use it like that since it doesn't really say anything about how much the console is selling so the information is still utterly useless. I hope we can agree on that at least.

 

[Requia]

You might want to actually read the article. Amazon updates those hourly, the article has a screenshot saying 875%.

Edit: wait, the screenshot must have been from the one posted to Reddit, sorry.

Aaah, OK then. However the math is correct given the circumstances. It's just utterly pointless to use it like that since it doesn't really say anything about how much the console is selling so the information is still utterly useless. I hope we can agree on that at least.

Yeah, % increase in sales rank is meaningless.


Also, more interesting, there doesn't seem to have been any bump at all in the US. Possibly has something to do with TV features being unlikely to work outside of NA?