An M rated Zelda game, could it work?
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Why don't people understand the difference between "mature" and "OMGbloodsextitties!!!"? Some maturity might work, like giving Link a REAL romance (no sex scenes or nudity, but at least a decent kiss scene) and making the violence a bit more realistic (enemies leaving corpses instead of exploding into puffs of smoke, but not splashes of blood and decapitations). These things add IMPACT. But just throwing in sex and violence because you can isn't adding impact, it's pandering to the lowest common denominator. "Hey look, blood and boobies! Doesn't that make this game SO MUCH BETTER?"
Incidentally, it might surprise some of you to know that in Australia (where we admittedly have a different rating system from other countries) Twilight Princess DID get an M-rating for Fantasy Violence, something which initially surprised me. Admittedly M15+ means parental supervision recommended for people under 15 (not actually a restriction) but it's a clear sign that the game is NOT CONSIDERED TO BE FOR KIDS. And seriously, that scene where one of the light spirits fills you in on the back story with the dark wizards represented by a trio of Dark Links and an evil-looking Ilia pulls out a dagger was genuinely disturbing. Ganon's execution scene was also quite startling. Once I'd finished playing the game I wasn't surprised at the rating at all.
Incidentally, it might surprise some of you to know that in Australia (where we admittedly have a different rating system from other countries) Twilight Princess DID get an M-rating for Fantasy Violence, something which initially surprised me. Admittedly M15+ means parental supervision recommended for people under 15 (not actually a restriction) but it's a clear sign that the game is NOT CONSIDERED TO BE FOR KIDS. And seriously, that scene where one of the light spirits fills you in on the back story with the dark wizards represented by a trio of Dark Links and an evil-looking Ilia pulls out a dagger was genuinely disturbing. Ganon's execution scene was also quite startling. Once I'd finished playing the game I wasn't surprised at the rating at all.
It's fine if you liked WindWaker, I'm not criticizing people for doing so. It's a good game, the art style especially, but it was definitely rushed. Several employees from Nintendo already confessed to that. Looking back on it only further proves that (to me.) Dungeons were basic and forgettable in comparison to other Zelda dungeons. The Triforce-gathering segment was a horribly mishandled gameplay device. There were also complaints about the sailing in the game, which I didn't mind, but I can see how people can find that tedious. Don't get me wrong, it was still fun while it lasted, and the art style was excellent, but the game certainly wasn't a masterpiece in comparison to OoT and TP IMO.Azeban said:
Maybe he just likes killing creatures and saving the world gives him a reason to do so? If so, those poor, poor octoroks...Paragon Fury said:
EDIT: Apologies for the double post, thought someone else would have posted by now...
If you ask me, an M-rated Zelda could be made. Most of it would just have to be about the rather gruesome ways to kill each and every enemy in the game. Or how the ever-spreading darkness of Ganon would affect even the children, turning them into creatures with horrible lust for blood. However, Zelda with pronographic hints or/and imagery? Dear god no.
It's possible, sure, it just won't be made.
It's possible, sure, it just won't be made.
G and H.
C'mon, tentacles!
...What? Am I the only one who found many... "fun" uses for Midna's powers, along with the powers of many others from past games?
And yeah, we need to bring in a truly DARK Dark Link.
Among other things.
*Cough* Zelda On Midna On Malon On Saria On Navi On Ruto On Impa (Young Version) On Nabooru On Agitha (From TP) On Ashei (Same) On Great Fairy On Hena (Again, from TP) On Ilia (Also TP) On Tatl On Ciela On Epona *Cough*
...What?!
C'mon, tentacles!
...What? Am I the only one who found many... "fun" uses for Midna's powers, along with the powers of many others from past games?
And yeah, we need to bring in a truly DARK Dark Link.
Among other things.
*Cough* Zelda On Midna On Malon On Saria On Navi On Ruto On Impa (Young Version) On Nabooru On Agitha (From TP) On Ashei (Same) On Great Fairy On Hena (Again, from TP) On Ilia (Also TP) On Tatl On Ciela On Epona *Cough*
...What?!
It really depends on the content. If Zelda was given an M rating, it'd need to be the right kind of M at the right time. You don't want to change the overall feeling or spirit of Zelda.
First, a general point: plenty of the people who played Zelda in their childhood are adults now. This means that adult content will be more accepted, though still not necessary.
A) Swearing wouldn't add anything to it. It'd be GTA Zelda style. Nintendo can't do swearing ever anyway - name one game they developed that has swearing. You will have difficulty.
B) Blood would add the consequence of what really happens when you put a sword through something to the game. That's probably a plus for any kiddies who (in the legal presence of an adult, of course) do play the game. This way they don't get any silly ideas about bodies disappearing when you stab them. Hah.
C) Gore would be over the top though. Leave that for R rated games.
D) I fail to see how tits/ass/genitalia would add anything except for the extreme fanboys who *really* like Zelda.
E) Sex would be out in my opinion, since it's got nothing to do with what Zelda is about.
F) "Dark Link" has been done before. And turning heroes evil (or "tainting" them through bad deeds) is an extremely cliché concept - it's been done a thousand times before. Look at Prince of Persia, Fable, etc. It's overdone. The Zelda franchise has the deeply entrenched spirit of a classic hero battling against darkness, and that's why I think it already took a wrong turn in "cursing" Link with the wolf form in TP.
First, a general point: plenty of the people who played Zelda in their childhood are adults now. This means that adult content will be more accepted, though still not necessary.
A) Swearing wouldn't add anything to it. It'd be GTA Zelda style. Nintendo can't do swearing ever anyway - name one game they developed that has swearing. You will have difficulty.
B) Blood would add the consequence of what really happens when you put a sword through something to the game. That's probably a plus for any kiddies who (in the legal presence of an adult, of course) do play the game. This way they don't get any silly ideas about bodies disappearing when you stab them. Hah.
C) Gore would be over the top though. Leave that for R rated games.
D) I fail to see how tits/ass/genitalia would add anything except for the extreme fanboys who *really* like Zelda.
E) Sex would be out in my opinion, since it's got nothing to do with what Zelda is about.
F) "Dark Link" has been done before. And turning heroes evil (or "tainting" them through bad deeds) is an extremely cliché concept - it's been done a thousand times before. Look at Prince of Persia, Fable, etc. It's overdone. The Zelda franchise has the deeply entrenched spirit of a classic hero battling against darkness, and that's why I think it already took a wrong turn in "cursing" Link with the wolf form in TP.
I highly doubt an M rated Zelda game could work. It would be taking a perfectly good kids adventure game, and turning it into a disgusting, gruesome, bloody, mess that wouldn't deserve to be called The Legend of Zelda. At that rate, you may as well make a whole new game series. In my opinion, if you turned Zelda into an M rated game, it wouldn't be Zelda anymore. what makes Zelda, Zelda, are it's characteristics. The kid-friendly adventure game, that has a great storyline, good game play, the right amount of action and violence, and of course, the puzzles. If you change any of them, or take any away, it wouldn't be Zelda.
So, overall, I'm VERY AGAINST making an M rated Zelda game. And I hope to the Hylian gods that Nintendo doesn't screw up Zelda like that.
oh, and, GO WII MOTION PLUS! IF THE NEW ZELDA GAME USES IT, IT WILL MOST DEFIANTLY BE AAAAWWWWWEEEEESSSSSSOOOOOOMMMMMMEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So, overall, I'm VERY AGAINST making an M rated Zelda game. And I hope to the Hylian gods that Nintendo doesn't screw up Zelda like that.
oh, and, GO WII MOTION PLUS! IF THE NEW ZELDA GAME USES IT, IT WILL MOST DEFIANTLY BE AAAAWWWWWEEEEESSSSSSOOOOOOMMMMMMEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
twilight princess was done slightly more mature than usual, and people loved it(I didnt, but others loved it) and as you said, If it was done right then it would work.
I dont know how they would add swearing though, considering its an all text game where the main character doesnt talk.
maybe with a morale choice system though...
I dont know how they would add swearing though, considering its an all text game where the main character doesnt talk.
maybe with a morale choice system though...
I very much agree,.Cid Kain said:
you diserve a hug
*hug*
and I want you to know, that my clothes are in the washer right now, so that means im naked...
(and a boy)
and not just ANYBODY gets a naked hug.
It would be interesting to give the next Zelda more mature content. But nothing wacky, fuck no. Swearing and detailed blood would work, but not having Zelda dry hump Link in the middle of fighting a tree that resembles a massive cock and balls and fires statues of Obama at you that explode into melted chocolate.
No swearing because no one speaks English (they speak Hylian or New-Hylian), and sub-titled curses are just silly. Not to mention Link has no mouth.
Blood. Yeah, whatever. Just a little though.
Gore. No.
Boobs/sex. Big no. This isn't what Zelda is about. Heck, the character Zelda is depicted as too dignified to even think of these things.
Dark Link. Shadow Link was my favorite mini-boss ever. He took four hits and it was awesome. That aside, Link is not a dark character. He's a hero. A silent hero. a silent hero who only does good in the name of justice and Hyrule.
I look forward to the next Zelda game and I honestly expect zero of these elements (except maybe possibly the blood) in it. Besides, if you payed attention to the story-lines and read all the things people said, some of the Zelda games are pretty mature on their own. I actually felt sorry for Ganon as my naive Link was forced to defeat him in Wind Waker. Midna (which is all I need to say really). Zelda is for all audiences because it has those things, but presents them in a way that kids don't even see the mature parts. It just doesn't click to them.
Blood. Yeah, whatever. Just a little though.
Gore. No.
Boobs/sex. Big no. This isn't what Zelda is about. Heck, the character Zelda is depicted as too dignified to even think of these things.
Dark Link. Shadow Link was my favorite mini-boss ever. He took four hits and it was awesome. That aside, Link is not a dark character. He's a hero. A silent hero. a silent hero who only does good in the name of justice and Hyrule.
I look forward to the next Zelda game and I honestly expect zero of these elements (except maybe possibly the blood) in it. Besides, if you payed attention to the story-lines and read all the things people said, some of the Zelda games are pretty mature on their own. I actually felt sorry for Ganon as my naive Link was forced to defeat him in Wind Waker. Midna (which is all I need to say really). Zelda is for all audiences because it has those things, but presents them in a way that kids don't even see the mature parts. It just doesn't click to them.
