...and at that moment I knew the game/franchise was dead.
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Ocarina of Time. Just the whole repetitive structure of the Zelda games kind of slid into my perception. Since I'd played Zelda 2, Link to the Past beforehand, I'd kind of missed the sort of copy-pasting between the original ad Link to the Past. Played Majora's Mask too, which had the timer gimmick, but still was structured almost identically.
...because watching paint dry and doing nothing is exactly the same as spending time and effort on watching enemy patrol routes, planning a route, evading detection when executing your plan, and dealing with things when the shit hits the fan, whether it be fleeing or standing your ground and fighting. Yep, totally.Souplex said:
If you don't like stealth, fine, but the argument of "I don't like it, therefore it's bad" isn't an argument.
Pretty much this. I was fine with the Anime-ish WW2 setting. It was when the Valkeryia thing started taking front and center that I started not feeling the game anymore. And any mission where you had to hold off super enemy lady(who can shrug off tank shells to the face) was annoying as hell.Raddra said:
I was gonna say Final Fantasy when they moved from Fantasy into Sci-fi and from Single player into MMO's(Pretty much everything after 9). However, XV apparently has redeemed the franchise somewhat.
I played through the entire series(save for Unity, which I'm not wasting time or money on) last year in more or less a marathon. It's interesting to see how it looks like they had an idea of the plot to start with and you can see them slowly lose track of it.Sniper Team 4 said:
Two examples:
1.)It's explicitly mentioned how Desmond was being trained with the animus to be a modern say assassin and at the end of 2, he gets to beat the crap out of a platoon of baddies coming to get them. Theres the implication in 3 Desmond would get to do a bunch of full on assassin missions. Instead, there's some platforming segments in the following games but nothing like what seemed to be promised...and then Desmond dies and then series hasn't settled on a new near-future PC since.
2.) In the first game, two threats were established. The first the 2012 thing. The second is that the Templar want to put the apple in a satellite and use it control the world. The 2012 thing is eventually resolved with the press of a button and the satellite launch slowly recedes into the background where the resolution for this is in an e-mail that says the launch was scrubbed(for lack of an apple). All of which feels like the writers were fumbling to figure something out by 3. And it's telling because they had Brotherhood and Revelations to buy time for them to put 3 out.
Don't get me wrong. I like 3, but it's fairly obvious the 3 we got wasn't the 3 we were supposed to get when the series started.
Need for Speed (2016) - An unnecessarily reboot no one was asking for with a whole bunch of online DRM bullshit! Rivals was a good arcade racer (PC version being the exception), but now it seems like EA wants rape any of their few franchises left of good quality.
Devil May Cry - DmC (2013) When I first saw the trailer for it in 2010, I knew the game was going to fail regardless who liked it or not (only a few actually do consumer wise). I mean who would, other than people who never played Devil May Cry or many character action games at all. Capcom has a habit of not admitting their mistakes at all.
Street Fighter - Paying $60.00 for a glorified beta that is SFV. That is all.
Final Fight: Streetwise - Another poor man's PS2 era GTA clone. Why couldn't they stick with the original idea of making it a 2.5D brawler. Final Fight would have done so much better
Parasite Eve - The 3rd Birthday was trasvesty relegated to PSP. How could you Square? Taking one of your unique and better RPGs only to turn it into a over-the-shoulder shooter with tacked on "RPG elements" with crappy story. And Parasite Eve had a great story; more so the first game.
F.E.A.R - A COD clone with bullet time and a rushed story. I just described F.3.A.R
Sonic - Sonic Boom was the point that clearly Sega doesn't even go beyond minimal effort anymore. i hate to say it, but Boom broke me. The cartoon was ok, but that won't save Sonic nor them from that travesty.
Konami in general for their stupid mobile crap and pachinko machines. Wasn't such a good idea now was it you dumb fucks?!
Devil May Cry - DmC (2013) When I first saw the trailer for it in 2010, I knew the game was going to fail regardless who liked it or not (only a few actually do consumer wise). I mean who would, other than people who never played Devil May Cry or many character action games at all. Capcom has a habit of not admitting their mistakes at all.
Street Fighter - Paying $60.00 for a glorified beta that is SFV. That is all.
Final Fight: Streetwise - Another poor man's PS2 era GTA clone. Why couldn't they stick with the original idea of making it a 2.5D brawler. Final Fight would have done so much better
Parasite Eve - The 3rd Birthday was trasvesty relegated to PSP. How could you Square? Taking one of your unique and better RPGs only to turn it into a over-the-shoulder shooter with tacked on "RPG elements" with crappy story. And Parasite Eve had a great story; more so the first game.
F.E.A.R - A COD clone with bullet time and a rushed story. I just described F.3.A.R
Sonic - Sonic Boom was the point that clearly Sega doesn't even go beyond minimal effort anymore. i hate to say it, but Boom broke me. The cartoon was ok, but that won't save Sonic nor them from that travesty.
Konami in general for their stupid mobile crap and pachinko machines. Wasn't such a good idea now was it you dumb fucks?!
I was only ever a casual player of the Sonic games... but with that said, no thread like this would be complete without:
First, it was when Shadow popped a cap
Then, Sonic made out with a human
Then, he turned into a werewolf
...basically it's the franchise that died, yet still finds ways to rekill itself every few years... trying to reach some faustian level of super-death
First, it was when Shadow popped a cap
Then, Sonic made out with a human
Then, he turned into a werewolf
...basically it's the franchise that died, yet still finds ways to rekill itself every few years... trying to reach some faustian level of super-death
Assassins Creed: Brotherhood. I got this game and played for a little bit before deciding that I wasn't having any fun. It was basically the same game as before and binned it off vowing never to play another Ass Creed game. However, I did play and enjoy Black Flag, I borrowed it from a friend and I think I enjoyed it because of its Pirate fun rather than the actual assassinating people. But I've not bothered with any of the others.
AC 3 was when I gave up on the series. It was the one I didn't even bother to finish. There were a ton of issues with it, but I gave up on it when I realized that well they kept in the ability to train your own assassins it was a lot less interesting. You had pre-made people rather then finding your own group. This was the first games to take things away from the gameplay and at this point in the game it was the last straw. (Combat was fun though.)
Saints row 3 I kind of gave up when I realized that I had just completed a mission and the next mission I had to do was all the way across the map. That seemed to be the case for a good chunk of the game. Mission starts would be placed far away from where the last one ended and then they would make you drive to pad out the games run time when it was woefully short. That game was just crazy padded. (I ended up coming back and playing 4, but not buying it.)
Saints row 3 I kind of gave up when I realized that I had just completed a mission and the next mission I had to do was all the way across the map. That seemed to be the case for a good chunk of the game. Mission starts would be placed far away from where the last one ended and then they would make you drive to pad out the games run time when it was woefully short. That game was just crazy padded. (I ended up coming back and playing 4, but not buying it.)
We are now at the stage where most of our stealth games are murder stealth. Your not trying to avoid the enemies, but rather your trying to kill them silently. Honestly I am OK with that. It's hard to do old style stealth well. (Or maybe I just don't like old style stealth) Anytime it comes up, I have to mention mark of the ninja. Best stealth game ever.Hawki said:
Advanced Warfare, when they released of that silly shit in MP. I realized that the era of modern military was dead, and all CoD could do was try and emulate their previous successes.
AC Unity, when I realized that the only thing that made AC unique and fun, the parkour, was being done better by other games (and oddly enough, earlier games in the franchise).
Far Cry 4, when I realized that from this point all they will be doing is trying to emulate Vaas and they never will eclipse that performance.
GTA/Most open world games, when I realized that they are all essentially the same and driving around doing side missions doesn't interest me anymore.
AC Unity, when I realized that the only thing that made AC unique and fun, the parkour, was being done better by other games (and oddly enough, earlier games in the franchise).
Far Cry 4, when I realized that from this point all they will be doing is trying to emulate Vaas and they never will eclipse that performance.
GTA/Most open world games, when I realized that they are all essentially the same and driving around doing side missions doesn't interest me anymore.
For me it was Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age II. Now don't get me wrong I don't think they are bad games, far from it, but it was the moment I realised that Bioware was now going to be focusing far more on the action side of the franchises rather than the role playing side going forward.
Then the third incarnations of the franchise come out and sadly proved to myself that I was right. Bioware pretty much abandoned any pretense of player choice, choosing instead to focus on a cinematic experience for the player character. ME3 saw the character class balance pushed far in the favour of the gun based classes and the less said about the abomination of shooter controls in Inquisition the better.
Those two worlds seem to be the ones people default to because they are pretty much the standout points of the game. With all the others you get "why are we fighting Cerberus again?"
Then the third incarnations of the franchise come out and sadly proved to myself that I was right. Bioware pretty much abandoned any pretense of player choice, choosing instead to focus on a cinematic experience for the player character. ME3 saw the character class balance pushed far in the favour of the gun based classes and the less said about the abomination of shooter controls in Inquisition the better.
When I hear people talk about Mass Effect 3 they only ever seem to mention Tuchanka and Rannoch. Tuchanka and Rannoch.MC1980 said:
Those two worlds seem to be the ones people default to because they are pretty much the standout points of the game. With all the others you get "why are we fighting Cerberus again?"
far cry 3 when i realised im hunting endangered species because everyone on the island has access to state of the art weaponry but failed to understand the concept of simply going to a store and buying a bag.
metal gear solid 5 when i realised how batshit crazy the story is. in my defense id ignored the series up to then and jumped into this. okish openworld stealth game
metal gear solid 5 when i realised how batshit crazy the story is. in my defense id ignored the series up to then and jumped into this. okish openworld stealth game
God of War 3, Pandora and half of the deaths.
Let me preface that I didn't have a problem with the main character in the PS2 games, and I even think the first one was actually a pretty clever retelling of classical mythology tropes, but they changed the director with each passing game, and by the third one Asmussen didn't even understood the character. I ended up completing the game, but halfway through I was just going with the motions. I had negative investment in any of the characters or the events the game choose to focus on, and the protagonist was a caricature of a caricature.
Let me preface that I didn't have a problem with the main character in the PS2 games, and I even think the first one was actually a pretty clever retelling of classical mythology tropes, but they changed the director with each passing game, and by the third one Asmussen didn't even understood the character. I ended up completing the game, but halfway through I was just going with the motions. I had negative investment in any of the characters or the events the game choose to focus on, and the protagonist was a caricature of a caricature.
Far Cry 4... Far Cry 2 was very different from the first Far Cry and the same can be said about Far Cry 3. After several hours of Far Cry 4, it became evident that it was just Far Cry 3 again with no significant changes to the game play. That was the main thing that I enjoyed about the series. It seemed to reinvent itself with every iteration.
