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Dango

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You do not hate all anime, I know this, you simply haven't found an anime you like. And there are lots of very different animes out there, trust me. I can really understand where you're coming from though, and I can understand why anyone would hate the ones that I like, but that doesn't mean that there aren't ones that I hate that you'll love.
 

Arisato-kun

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no oneder said:
cheshitescat said:
no oneder said:
That is Princess Robot Bubblegum, which lampoons and makes fun of Japanese culture.
Their culture has jumped the shark since ol' yukio mishima lolfailed his seppuku attempt.
I don't know what the shock are you talking about, so I'm just going to follow your lead.
Yes their culture is so domo arigato, Mr. Roboto. I was very surprised when Awkira Kurosawa failed at his sudoku attempt. Sushi katito Morita kadosuko!
Someone hasn't seen any good anime in a LOOOOONG time. D:
 
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Skorpyo said:
no oneder said:
I. HATE. IT.

It's simply not my bag.
*looks at avatar* ...wut?
FargoDog said:
no oneder said:
I. HATE. IT.

It's simply not my bag.
Your avatar appears to contradict your statement.
That is Princess Robot Bubblegum, which lampoons and makes fun of Japanese culture.
Well, the name is certainly ridiculous. Speaking of lampooning, I feel like watching National Lampoon's Vacation.

OT: I like anime. Not all anime, since there are some shows that are just awfully bad. Why do I like anime? I just do. Sometimes I don't even know why. If the person next to me hates it, that's fine by me. I won't hate them because of it. I just won't talk about it when I'm around them.
 

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Aethren said:
Squarez said:
It also gets on my nerves that a person will ignore a western animated show or film or even a live-action one and watch something anime just BECAUSE it's anime. Which, seeing as being Japanese and animated is no guarantee for quality, frankly astounds me.
I just have to respond to this one. WHAT good western animation? Outside of The Simpsons, Family Guy/American Dad (which aren't all that great, but I digress), and Transformers: Beast Wars, just what good western animated shows were you referring to? I love me some NCIS and other live shows as much as the next guy, but the quality of western animation is just...horrid. Have you SEEN what they did to Cartoon Network? And Nick-whatever? Crap like Spongebob and Blue's Clues is what turned me to anime in the first place.
Quality western animation, eh?

Avatar: The Last Airbender
Megas XLR
Phineas and Ferb
Adventure Time
The Spectacular Spider-Man
(to get a little older we have...)
Beast Wars
Swat Kats
Wacky Races
Johnny Quest
X-Men
Spider-Man: Unlimited
Thundercats
Avengers: United They Stand (even if it was only 13 episodes...)

and that was just to name a few.

Anyways, OT: A lot fo different anime try vastly different animation syles. I mean, you can't honestly claim that Spirited Away, Code Geass, Dragonball Z, Shin-Chan and Gatchaman all use the same art style. Put simply, I can't force ya to like anime, but I hope you'll look around and find something that DOES spark your interest.
 

L4hlborg

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Extraintrovert said:
Secondly, anime is a medium, and like any medium it is filled with a collosal range of genres and an even greater range of quality. To dismiss an entire medium shows either obscenely discerning preferrences or simply not finding something that one enjoys. Just as Star Wars is entirely different from Schindler's List and Modern Warfare is entirely different from Cave Story, Fist of the North Star, Azumanga Daioh, Higurashi and Bo-bobobo Bobobo are all different from each other, and lumping them all together is ineffective.
Now this is the part I hate. Anime is not a medium. It is animation. In Japan, all animation is called anime, because it's Japanese for animation.

I really hate that japanese stuff gets huge ammounts of viewers/listeners/players just because they are japanese. Usually adding the J in front of the genre isn't because it's very different of everything else, it's because it sells more then. There are some exceptions though, JRPGs not really being very RPG from my point of view but still. We don't have a seperate section for French, Brittish and American films in Finland.
 

Aethren

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kyosai7 said:
Aethren said:
Squarez said:
It also gets on my nerves that a person will ignore a western animated show or film or even a live-action one and watch something anime just BECAUSE it's anime. Which, seeing as being Japanese and animated is no guarantee for quality, frankly astounds me.
I just have to respond to this one. WHAT good western animation? Outside of The Simpsons, Family Guy/American Dad (which aren't all that great, but I digress), and Transformers: Beast Wars, just what good western animated shows were you referring to? I love me some NCIS and other live shows as much as the next guy, but the quality of western animation is just...horrid. Have you SEEN what they did to Cartoon Network? And Nick-whatever? Crap like Spongebob and Blue's Clues is what turned me to anime in the first place.
Quality western animation, eh?

Avatar: The Last Airbender
Megas XLR
Phineas and Ferb
Adventure Time
The Spectacular Spider-Man
(to get a little older we have...)
Beast Wars
Swat Kats
Wacky Races
Johnny Quest
X-Men
Spider-Man: Unlimited
Thundercats
Avengers: United They Stand (even if it was only 13 episodes...)

and that was just to name a few.

Anyways, OT: A lot fo different anime try vastly different animation syles. I mean, you can't honestly claim that Spirited Away, Code Geass, Dragonball Z, Shin-Chan and Gatchaman all use the same art style. Put simply, I can't force ya to like anime, but I hope you'll look around and find something that DOES spark your interest.
I already named Beast Wars in my post, and the others were either based off comic books I've never read and thus had no interest in, or have never heard of before. Though admittedly, Phineas and Ferb isn't horrid at times.
 

Canid117

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I had my childhood firmly rooted in the nineties so I have a very soft spot in my heart for animated superhero cartoons. There were some animes that I enjoyed but I am never going to sit down and watch gundam seed and remember it as fondly as Batman the Animated series.
 

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Well, I could never really get into gay romance stories(this includes lesbian), so I know how you feel. I wish I could enjoy it, but it just creeps me out too much. Also, even for a seasoned anime veteran like myself, there are still plenty of anime art styles I can't freakin stand.
 

SilverUchiha

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Limzz said:
EDIT: Oh, and creepy anime avatars really bug me out.
First, fear my anime avatar and his dual-pistols!

OT: I am a huge anime fan, but I'll admit there are certain things about the genre/medium/whatever-the-fuck-it-is I dislike. If you are simply disliking it purely on an animation/artistic standpoint, I have to recommend you watch some more recent serials like "Angel Beats", "Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles", or "High School of the Dead". They have great artwork and beautifully animated.

If we're talking story standpoint... sigh... okay... You've got me. A lot of anime I watch suffers from a problem (at least in my perspective) with story. I'll still watch them because there is good humor in it or because I find the attempt at a coherent story amusing. But I have yet to see an anime with a story I can sink my teeth into. For example, "Angel Beats" is just one big plot hole disguised with great artwork and comedy. "Tsubasa's" plot is more present, but it's so iffy. All you are really doing is watching people travel to different dimensions without too much structure to it. It'd be nice if the main villain got off his fat ass and did something now and again. "High School of the Dead" is pretty much L4D mixed with anime. While L4D's story was good because it was in the background and subtle, "HOTD" can't do that because it isn't an interactive medium so I'm left sitting there and wondering what the point of it is because I'm 6 episodes in and they still haven't really done much except run for their lives and show-off shameless fanservice.

I guess the biggest weaknesses of anime anymore would be plot structure and (occasionally) excessive fanserivce. Aside from that, it's a pretty entertaining type of ... um... thing... to watch.
 

Baralak

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Aethren said:
kyosai7 said:
Aethren said:
Squarez said:
It also gets on my nerves that a person will ignore a western animated show or film or even a live-action one and watch something anime just BECAUSE it's anime. Which, seeing as being Japanese and animated is no guarantee for quality, frankly astounds me.
I just have to respond to this one. WHAT good western animation? Outside of The Simpsons, Family Guy/American Dad (which aren't all that great, but I digress), and Transformers: Beast Wars, just what good western animated shows were you referring to? I love me some NCIS and other live shows as much as the next guy, but the quality of western animation is just...horrid. Have you SEEN what they did to Cartoon Network? And Nick-whatever? Crap like Spongebob and Blue's Clues is what turned me to anime in the first place.
Quality western animation, eh?

Avatar: The Last Airbender
Megas XLR
Phineas and Ferb
Adventure Time
The Spectacular Spider-Man
(to get a little older we have...)
Beast Wars
Swat Kats
Wacky Races
Johnny Quest
X-Men
Spider-Man: Unlimited
Thundercats
Avengers: United They Stand (even if it was only 13 episodes...)

and that was just to name a few.

Anyways, OT: A lot fo different anime try vastly different animation syles. I mean, you can't honestly claim that Spirited Away, Code Geass, Dragonball Z, Shin-Chan and Gatchaman all use the same art style. Put simply, I can't force ya to like anime, but I hope you'll look around and find something that DOES spark your interest.
I already named Beast Wars in my post, and the others were either based off comic books I've never read and thus had no interest in, or have never heard of before. Though admittedly, Phineas and Ferb isn't horrid at times.
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That's just a few!
 

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The problem I have with anime is how it's handled. When it comes on tv it normally is in an arc, and I'm fine with that. But I don't want to watch 1 episode then have to wait until tomorrow, or better yet, next week, to watch the next. Especially if it's filler. Worst of all is when the station running it STARTS SHOWING THE PLOTLINE FROM THE BEGINNING AGAIN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ARC FOR NO FUCKING REASON. That's how I stopped watching DBZ. It got to the climax of the Buu arc and then Cartoon Network decided to restart the plotline and show the first episode of it. I basically said "fuck that" and never watched it again. Years later, they did the same thing with Inuyasha. I COULD watch anime again and easily get into it(none of that creepy little kid loli stuff, though. I'm kinda against that existing), but I'd need the entire series on DVD so I can watch the whole thing in one sitting and make sure some fucktard doesn't replay the plotline right when I'm almost done.

Oh, and in response to your 'anime looks the same' argument, anime is an art style. Saying it all looks the same(much of it is similar but differs slightly) is like complaining all furry art contains anthromorphic animals or all fantasy deviates from reality. Though I think this does cause the problem that most anime characters look weird as hell and are dressed in crazy clothes; since they use such a similar style for each they have to keep making the characters weirder and weirder to avoid looking like existing characters from other animes(that's my theory for it, at least).
 

NeutralDrow

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Aby_Z said:
There's many different examples of anime art styles being drastically different from each other, but I don't really care to find that picture.
I do.

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MrMixelPixel

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I enjoy anime very much. I watched a lot of it as a kid. While I think most mainstream anime has gotten really dull, except for two in my opinion. One involving genocide, alchemy, the 7 sins, chimeras, and a conspiracy. The other involving a note book that causes death, the letter L, opinions about law and justice, a false god, and sweets. Oh and I guess Bleach is average.
(Note, that I just think mainstream anime and manga need to know when to end. I liked a lot of them when they 1st started. After the peak of the series though... it gets boring and tedious to sit through.)

However, to judge such a large medium like that and say it's all the same really isn't fair. I'm not going guarantee a lot of anime wont aggravate you. Some of it still irritates me, with their excessive annoyance and cuteness, however I think I'm starting to get desensitized to stuff like that. Anime still has much to offer besides that. Plus, if you care enough to read the manga you can get into some really amazing and deep stuff.

I'm not going to force my opinion on you, but I really think if you take a bit more time you will find something you enjoy.
 

Therumancer

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I promise I'm not trolling. I have a hatred of all anime. Why? I think it's because it all looks the same, but maybe the real reason is something far more ominous. A good analogy would be cheese. Blue, swiss, american, and cheddar cheeses for example are all very different from one another but on a broader level it's still cheese. I won't lie I haven't watched much anime but just about every other person on the internet talks about it and I'm aware of the varied themes and such. Despite this I'm pretty sure it all looks roughly the same and uses the same art style that I find akin to lemon juice in my eyes and makes me FUUUUUUUUUUU. *OR* am I a natural xenophobe or something but since racism is socially unacceptable do I turn this on Japanese cartoons? (EDIT: Yeah the former sentence doesn't hold together too well but I really don't want to fix it and you probably know what I mean anyways) Does anyone else share my hate? Oh, actually, I dunno if this is anime but I liked that spider guy in Spirited Away but I was also probably 10 when I saw it.

EDIT: Oh, and creepy anime avatars really bug me out.
Limzz said:
I promise I'm not trolling. I have a hatred of all anime. Why? I think it's because it all looks the same, but maybe the real reason is something far more ominous. A good analogy would be cheese. Blue, swiss, american, and cheddar cheeses for example are all very different from one another but on a broader level it's still cheese. I won't lie I haven't watched much anime but just about every other person on the internet talks about it and I'm aware of the varied themes and such. Despite this I'm pretty sure it all looks roughly the same and uses the same art style that I find akin to lemon juice in my eyes and makes me FUUUUUUUUUUU. *OR* am I a natural xenophobe or something but since racism is socially unacceptable do I turn this on Japanese cartoons? (EDIT: Yeah the former sentence doesn't hold together too well but I really don't want to fix it and you probably know what I mean anyways) Does anyone else share my hate? Oh, actually, I dunno if this is anime but I liked that spider guy in Spirited Away but I was also probably 10 when I saw it.

EDIT: Oh, and creepy anime avatars really bug me out.

Well not every bit of art is for everyone, and anime is heavily stylized in a specific way. There are plenty of people who hate say Picasso, or Neo-Cubist art, and others who swear by it. That's why there are so many differant styles.

Differant anime artists do things differantly, but it does follow a general stylistic format, and if you hate it, your not going to really care enough to pick out the differances. Personally I don't mind the stylization and in general tend to pick on specific takes on it.

I'll also say that I think attitudes towards Anime have a lot to do when you started watching it. To be honest I started waaaay back in the day before it was "cool" with things like the original Bubblegum Crisis, and few people knew what it was. When companies like ADV started releasing fairly prolifically but it still wasn't mainstream, companies were very selective with what was brought over and localized. In general anything that made it here during this time period was going to be pretty high quality for the time. However as Anime became more mainstream, demand increased, and fanboys started screaming for anything that seemed remotely cool, more distribution companies got involved, and started looking to bring over anything and everything they thought they could sell. All arguements about the cost of translation and import aside, the bottom like was when people were willing to pay $30 for a VHS tape (or later a DVD) there was major money to be made. Inevitably we started to drown under a constant tide of crap.

Right now I'm nowhere near as much of an Anime fan as I used to be, in part because of a sort of "reality check" involving Japan and some of their attitudes, in part because while Anime is currently falling off having the "mainstream" on one side, and radical "Otaku" talking IRL in pigeonhole Japanese and stuff on the other began to annoy me, and in part because to really get an impression of how good this stuff is you need to see it, and I got tired of dumping a decent wad of cash on something that had become so hit or miss, with an increasingly large number of misses compared to hits. What's more with the increasingly mainstream recognition, Anime ceased to move under the radar, and we started seeing the censorship of the sex and ultraviolence which helped get me interested to begin with, a medium that was cool in part because it was not pulling any punches became less so when the censors got involved. Sites like the "Anime No Editing Zone" chronicled these changes fairly religiously and had a lot to do with my increasing annoyance. Gone are the days when you could get a subtitled version and guarantee it was uncut (and to be honest, that was one of the big reasons for getting it subtitled, at least for me, it had a lot less to do with being 'hardcore' for listening to it in the 'true' Japanese... and admittedly in the beginning the dubs did blow chips, but then again they also got a lot better when companies got more used to doing the localizations and found decent people).

I guess the point is that it's not for everyone, and I can understand why a lot of people don't like it at all, especially now.

On the other hand though, I also think you can dislike something without having to rush right in to become a full fledged hater. Not liking something does not mean you need to rush right in and tell the fans of whatever it is how much you hate it on principle. There are plenty of things I don't care for, and I don't generally make topics to express that displeasure, or go seeking out sites dedicated to it in order to make some kind of point.