Anonymous Punishes the Oregon Tea Party

[WitherVoice]

So... Can we expect to see the Oregon tea party employing anonymous' tactics now?

I can't for the life of me see why they'd stop. I think they're a bit saddened that they were beaten in their own game by Anonymous.

The so-called "Tea Party" is basically IRL trolls. They spout incoherent nonsense in an attempt to get a rise out of the world, and especially those pointy-headed intellectuals who employ mathematics and other heresies to governing. Any organizational energy that exists is used to make the group and its individuals unaccountable for their bullshit. Now... that already sounds like Anonymous tactics to me.

The reason they are less of a force than Anonymous is basically that Anonymous knows what it is - namely, whatever each Anonymous thinks it is. Thus Anonymous is everything, and nothing. Anonymous fights with itself constantly over what it is, and all sides are right... mindless trolls, terrible monsters, a legion of fat virgins, or clever people shedding their identities for their own amusement. Force for good, force for evil, it's all true. The Tea Party has, in a loose, roundabout sense, a cause, a banner that can be attacked. You'd have a hard time attacking something Anonymous cares about. If you think Anonymous hates you and wants your guts for garters, you're wrong. If a thousand "attack" you, five to ten are probably hostile towards you and the rest think joining and making the shitstorm BIGGER will be a laugh.

 

[SamElliot'sMustache]

The campaign was clearly a win and entertaining as always, but does anyone else find it disturbing that the Tea Party, which bills itself as a legitimate voice of conservative political dissent in the United States, "admires" the tactics of Anonymous?

Compared to the fact that the Tea Party is the result of the super-rich in America manipulating the working class into fighting for a status quo that is harmful to them (but beneficial to said super-rich), then no, admiring Anonymous' tactics is not even close to disturbing.

 

[Keepitclean]

"Admire your tactics" If these people knew what anon has done I don't think they would kiss it's ass.

 

[Ironic Pirate]

Right - whatever. I'm a tea party member and I don't think Glenn Beck is christ. True tea partiers are middle-of-the-road, not libertarians like Beck. I just don't want to pay high taxes and be foreced to buy health insurance when I don't need it right now. That's what it's about, not that liberal propaganda-porn like you see on MSNBC with its whore-in-charge Keith Olbermann spreading lies & BS about ordinary people. It's so easy to call someone a racist when you disagree with their politics. Quit *****-slapping people with the lies, get out of your left-wing media cocoon and step outside to smell the real world.

There are people in your organisation that are rascist, just face it. Keith Olbermann is like Glenn Beck, he tells slightly sensationalized accounts of the news, there's no reason to call him a whore.

That's why I don't like the tea party, you resort to mudslinging and douchebaggery in lieu of actual goals, or anything. MLK never called anyone a whore, and he was able to get the Civil Rights act passed. Admittedly, he died before it came to fruition, but still.

 

[JEBWrench]

The campaign was clearly a win and entertaining as always, but does anyone else find it disturbing that the Tea Party [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement], which bills itself as a legitimate voice of conservative political dissent in the United States, "admires" the tactics of Anonymous?

Not really - Anonymous is the ultimate grassroots organization. Like minded people, who band together for a cause, with no central leadership or organizational force to enact social change (or whatever).

Anonymous is basically crowdsourced activism, for better or worse, so to that extent it is worthy of admiration.

Yeah, they're dicks, but they're dicks in a way that is goddamn fascinating to watch.

-m

Shh! Nobody's supposed to post an actual explanation! Somebody might learn something.

does anyone else find it disturbing that the Tea Party [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tea_Party]... "admires" the tactics of Anonymous?

You gotta admit, it would be one Hell of a song.

 

[Ldude893]

The Moral of the Story: Never F$&@ with Anonymous

 

[fletch_talon]

I really wish this had been done in response to extremist beliefs and polcies as opposed to catch phrase theft and "lulz".

I've said it before, I'll say it again. I would admire 4chan so much if they stuck to punishing legitimate targets for valid reasons.
It also scares me that the tea party folk that I keep hearing about have apparently "learned" from anonymous. I'm forseeing a future flooding of fake claims to the new public healthcare that Obama initiated, DDoS attacks or something along those lines.

 

[Blackjack 222]

I wish they would take a swing at US politics just for lulz

 

[Void(null)]

I think it was just words to get Anonymous off t heir backs. The phrase isn't copyrighted or trademarked at all. All the macro moves and spamming that Anonymous uses is just retarded in my opinion.if you don't want someone to use your slogan, copyright it

who would copyright it? they aren't an organization.

The #1 rule of the internet - the ONE thing every person using it should know - don't provoke anonymous. just don't do it. Don't acknowledge them, don't borrow from them, just leave them in their own little vaccuum. If you try to engage them in any way, you are going to lose, unless you bring some epic win (see the old spice guy).

Co-opting an element of anonymous culture for a political rally is just asking for trouble.

-m

Rule 1 of the internet is do not talk about /b/ which in and of itself breaks rule 1 and 2 so it was later interpreted to mean "During a raid."

Anyway, engaging Anonymous is not always a bad thing.

Case in point, Wise Beard Man, who's words were wise and face was beard.

He not only engaged Anonymous and told them they were doing it wrong, but helped coach them in a more productive and effective battle plan against $cientology.

 

[Void(null)]

I wish they would take a swing at US politics just for lulz

You mean like hacking Sarah Palins e-mail? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin_email_hack]

 

[Chrinik]

These Anonymous boys are obviously a force to be reckoned with. Spamming Facebook over a petty dispute will sure show somebody...

This is why when the world ends I'll be that crazy guy who lives in the cabin and eats people he drugs. I have never seen anything this group of rejects have done be more impressive than a prank. My Grandmother knew more about psychological warfare.

Well sure, but they also tend to completely obliterate your reputation, post every embarrasing picture of you, DDOSing your servers, black faxes, order 250 Pizzas to your house and leave you with the bill, they call you, they spam your mail, facebook, youtube and other accounts with gay porn or pain series...they also might hack your accounts and post pictures of naked men or dudes fucking animals and subtitleing them with "my friend jeff at our favorite pasttime" and then let the rest work itself out.

Sure they are pranks by and large...but imagine someone pranking you 24/7 for 5 days straight...

They didn´t make the news because they are fucking around...

Also they are probably the biggest unorganized force in history that works AGAINST scientology, and for that alone they get my respect.

 

[Dyp100]

Oh /b/, you crazy board.

I personally stick to /tg/ myself.

/tg/'s not actually all that bad, to be honest. Most of the content on that board is fairly similar to the content on these forums (I'm not taking a jab at the Escapist there, it's a favourable conparison), with the occasional jackass. Which is pretty much the same as every other discussion forum on the web.

/b/'s just nasty, though.

Whenever I go on /b/, it just bores me to tears, really. All it is, is copypasta. No original content anymore.

 

[bobknowsall]

Oh /b/, you crazy board.

I personally stick to /tg/ myself.

/tg/'s not actually all that bad, to be honest. Most of the content on that board is fairly similar to the content on these forums (I'm not taking a jab at the Escapist there, it's a favourable conparison), with the occasional jackass. Which is pretty much the same as every other discussion forum on the web.

/b/'s just nasty, though.

Whenever I go on /b/, it just bores me to tears, really. All it is, is copypasta. No original content anymore.

Well, that's just another reason to stay off it, really.

 

[Lono Shrugged]

Well sure, but they also tend to completely obliterate your reputation, post every embarrasing picture of you, DDOSing your servers, black faxes, order 250 Pizzas to your house and leave you with the bill, they call you, they spam your mail, facebook, youtube and other accounts with gay porn or pain series...they also might hack your accounts and post pictures of naked men or dudes fucking animals and subtitleing them with "my friend jeff at our favorite pasttime" and then let the rest work itself out.

Sure they are pranks by and large...but imagine someone pranking you 24/7 for 5 days straight...

They didn´t make the news because they are fucking around...

Also they are probably the biggest unorganized force in history that works AGAINST scientology, and for that alone they get my respect.

Any organization dedicated to being so childish and stupid gets no respect in my opinion. I understand that they are a vast group of people supposedly fighting injustice etc. on the internet, but I really don't like their methods. As said it's dickish and I don't like the way they use this fear of account hacking anyone who messes with them. Reminds me too much of bullies I grew up with.

As for Scientology, I don't understand how they have fought it. I mean do they educate people in the church on it's activities or offer alternatives? I'm genuinely interested as I can't imagine that everyone in it is as assholish as the guys I've heard about.

 

[Sean Strife]

Anonymous are internet trolls.

A large group of anonymous internet trolls. That's it. They aren't organised, or led, they're just a bunch of people that like to troll other internet users for fun.

The only cause they are in any way organized around is protesting the church of scientology, and even that is decried by other Anons. for being too organized and high-profile, and not generating enough "lulz".

As far as I'm concerned, they're a necessary evil of the internet - sure, they may get destructive and antagonistic when they have nothing better to do, but they also enact a lot of vigilante justice online as well.

What it boils down to is just that they're trolls, and they'll troll whatever seems like a troll-worthy target on any given day.

If that means trolling someone who's being evil and a giant dick, they'll do that. If it means trolling a kid who posts stupid videos on youtube, they'll do that too.

The trick is to just not draw their attention. (like, by using their motto, for instance)

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Regarding the article you posted, it's always fun to see people repot on something like this with absolutely no idea with regards to online dynamics and crowdsourcing.

Some anonymous folk associated with 4chan may have been responsible for the attacks on those epilepsy sites (trolling, remember), but those actions aren't tied to "anonymous" as a group, because there is no central group. There are just people who are anonymous, who band together around actions and then disperse back into the crowd.

of course no charges were laid against anonymous, there is no anonymous. there are just individuals who are anonymous. "anonymous" is just a name.


Hopefully, that cleared things up, a bit.

-m

I suppose. it's kind of like how 4chan loves to take credit for ebaumworld's trolling and vice versa. I suppose any mass trolling that they can't identify as a specific group MUST have been anonymous. The necessary evil thing makes sense I suppose. Obviously I would love to see a massive dick punished rather than certain other individuals, but the internet will always have an anonymous.

Thanks for the info

You realize eBaum's world being cited as the source of trolling is a pathetic attempt from Anonymous to hide who's really doing it, right? It ties in with rules 1 and 2.

I wish they would take a swing at US politics just for lulz

You mean like hacking Sarah Palins e-mail? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin_email_hack]

Funny story about that. When the news first broke, I was saying "oh just watch, it'll be somebody in like Russia or something that did it and they can't do shit"... then I find out he goes to UT, which isn't far from me at all.

 

[oppp7]

bringing guns to political rallies*

* Can you imagine if someone had tried to pack heat at a BUSH rally? Their families would STILL be petitioning the government to find out what offshore prison they were being waterboarded in.

But what if the politicians try to rob us? We need those military-grade assault rifles for protection!

On a more serious note, use [ footnote]*text here*[ /footnote] to make footnotes. You don't have to, but it's easier.

 

[RiotLibrarian]

Not to nitpick, but I have a bit of a pet peeve with people throwing legal terms around when they don't know what they mean.

You don't have to 'copyright' anything. You can register a work with the Library of Congress copyright office, but you don't have to; that's just a legal protection to help you prove something is yours. If you make something, you own the copyright. End of story. No government involvement necessary.

HOWEVER, copyright explicitly CANNOT cover a phrase. It has to be a more substantial work.

For a phrase, you would have to trademark it. Trademark is a completely different area of intellectual property law, governed by entirely different rules.

 

[Jake the Snake]

Sigh, I hate this world so much sometimes. But it was funny to hear about two of the stupidest groups in America fighting each other.

 

[Boba Frag]

Great stuff Anonymous!

Glad to see conservatives from any country getting a solid slap in the face!