Another angle on the whole 'geek girls' thing.
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OP, feel sorry for you bro, you have to realise all you have done is open a can o worms you will never close. But in response to what you said, i haven't noticed that 'geeky' girls are any less physically attractive in general compared to any group of women. Anyway to all those who say 1. I know lots of hot gamer chicks. Good for you. 2. Why does it matter. Because as a rule, we like sleeping with physically attractive people, FULL STOP. if you don't either you have low self-esteem or are are lying to yourself and others. 3. Attractiveness is just a point of view. REALLY, or you telling me that if i look at someone, that my personal opinion of there looks is entirely subjective and thus i shouldn't mention it.
Anyway to summarize, the ratio of hot to not in the gamer chick demographic is probably the same as any other across the board. And personally i believe when personality comes in this particular group if better than most. Also, a word of warning, as soon as you reveal to people that you might judge others based on looks at some point, they can get really quite defensive. but then again that says more about there insecurities than your personality.
Anyway to summarize, the ratio of hot to not in the gamer chick demographic is probably the same as any other across the board. And personally i believe when personality comes in this particular group if better than most. Also, a word of warning, as soon as you reveal to people that you might judge others based on looks at some point, they can get really quite defensive. but then again that says more about there insecurities than your personality.
Hah, you make me laugh. The only decent looking 'geek girl' I've met turned out to be a lie. She was more like this
At least we the uglies know when a guy wants to fuck us / talk to us / calls it's for how awesome we are, and not just because we're retarded and hot or he wants to parade us around like a trophy.
That kind of bullshit is the last thing I need.
I know that when I date, I tend to have more meaningful, longer, and less douchey relationships than my hot friends.
Better sex, too.
That kind of bullshit is the last thing I need.
I know that when I date, I tend to have more meaningful, longer, and less douchey relationships than my hot friends.
Better sex, too.
See ? That phrasing thing again. Someone posts saying that the couple of female geeks they've met have been mostly unattractive, and asks why geeky women make a habit of letting themselves go. That's clearly a question applying to geeky women in general, whether its author meant it to or not. You then make a point of asking why people are upset about it, and saying the poster is totally right. You can't explicitly align yourself with a post and its phrasing and then act like you, well, didn't. If you didn't mean to generalize then like the OP you misspoke.Sparrow said:
Did I say it was false ? No ! I said it was an anecdote. Do you see the difference ? If you didn't mean to generalize from this anecdote I don't see what we're disagreeing about.Sparrow said:
It doesn't sound like "another angle". It sounds like you're a shallow geek boohooing over the fact that there aren't 1000's of Megan Fox hottie lookalike geek girls waiting to date the other side.similar.squirrel said:
1. A lot of "geeky" females who may be attractive by "conventional" standards may also be self-conscious about their likes. Perhaps they don't advertise their geekiness for various reasons. Some of which that the "gamer guy" stereotypes scare them. I'm sorry to tell you but a lot of the "geeky guys" out there don't have a clue when it comes to socializing with others and come off as quite creepy and possibly retarded.
2. Whether you know it or not, there are a ton of pretty women out there who have self-esteem issues and self-confidence issues, and again may be ashamed of their likes because the stereotypical "hottie" "doesn't like geeky stuff".
There may be 1000's of "attractive" geek girls out there, but maybe they're not all open and honest about it.
Watching movies, playing video games, listening to music, surfing the internet, and reading are all sedentary activities. In other words, they don't necessarily involve going out and doing stuff. A non nerdy girl finds enjoyment out of life through her relationships and social interactions, whereas a "geek girl" stays in and stimulates her mind through media. In theory, a "geek girl" would be at a higher statistical risk towards being overweight. I think the other factor is that people, whether they know it or not, judge based off of appearances, regardless of the situation being sexual or not. Therefore, a girl might get passed over for friendship or dating (not explicitly) more often and find herself engaging in more indoor non social activities. Another idea could be that these girls do not "make themselves up" a whole bunch. (By the way, any of these things I just said just just as easily apply to "geek guys.")
Most women have something attractive about them in some respect. Truly "ugly" people are fairly difficult to come by.
Most women have something attractive about them in some respect. Truly "ugly" people are fairly difficult to come by.
I've thought about this perception a lot. I guess by my interests, my habits and my job, I'd fall squarely into the "geek girl" category. But I never really thought about it, and don't consider or label myself a nerd or anything like that.
I don't think it's a matter of girls being uglier in one group or another. But there are other explanations. For the most part, I think it has to do with how they present themselves. From what I've seen over the years, in general the "nerdier" a girl is, the less likely she is to care about fashion or her appearance than finishing her latest Sailor Moon fanfic. And when you have a circle of like-minded friends who are comfortable around each other, that pervasive and sometimes competitive idea that they should care about their looks starts to disappear. Next thing you know, you proudly resemble this:
Another thing, that the above image demonstrates, is that sometimes making terrible fashion choices and attempting to look like a kawaii animu character when you're over 200 pounds often draws more attention to you and makes things worse.
It takes time to style your hair and put on makeup in the morning. And that regimen can be very involved. My job is casual dress, and though I try to look professional and nice every day, it's hard to resist sleeping in when all of your coworkers are male and simply drag themselves out of bed to work every day. Especially when I work all day and go to bed so late. And even though I enjoy fashion and try to present myself reasonably well, when I go out and see women who work in more mainstream jobs with lots of other women, I feel like I look downright frumpy.
So I guess what I'm saying is a lot of this phenomenon has a social explanation.
I don't think it's a matter of girls being uglier in one group or another. But there are other explanations. For the most part, I think it has to do with how they present themselves. From what I've seen over the years, in general the "nerdier" a girl is, the less likely she is to care about fashion or her appearance than finishing her latest Sailor Moon fanfic. And when you have a circle of like-minded friends who are comfortable around each other, that pervasive and sometimes competitive idea that they should care about their looks starts to disappear. Next thing you know, you proudly resemble this:
Another thing, that the above image demonstrates, is that sometimes making terrible fashion choices and attempting to look like a kawaii animu character when you're over 200 pounds often draws more attention to you and makes things worse.
It takes time to style your hair and put on makeup in the morning. And that regimen can be very involved. My job is casual dress, and though I try to look professional and nice every day, it's hard to resist sleeping in when all of your coworkers are male and simply drag themselves out of bed to work every day. Especially when I work all day and go to bed so late. And even though I enjoy fashion and try to present myself reasonably well, when I go out and see women who work in more mainstream jobs with lots of other women, I feel like I look downright frumpy.
So I guess what I'm saying is a lot of this phenomenon has a social explanation.
You can't educe if someone's a geek from appearance alone most of the time, attraction is purely subjective and you seem to be making a generalisation about a sub-culture based on your small circle of female geek friends. I think that's three of the main points brought up here, concisely wrapped up.
Way I see it, ugly can be fixed, especially if it's just a weight problem, or lack of showering and hair do-ing... stupid is something you can't EVER escape, some guys I know are all like "if they aren't willing to do the work to look good, why would I want to be with them?" way I see it, maybe they have different set of priorities than the women who litterally ONLY have looks going for them and are as dense as a fucking wall otherwise, trust me, I've met enough of both kinds... I prefer a woman who doesn't look like a golden statue, and actually thinks coherently thanks, someone else can take all the model-esque women with pea brains, I ain't touchin em.
does it count that i carry a handgun in a skirt and heels? 
personally, i rarely find a girl i dont find attractive.
personally, i rarely find a girl i dont find attractive.
Yeeeeah I find that too. I can't really give you a decent answer but it does seem to be the way of things.
As much as I understand your situation, I honestly can't see what kind of answer you would expect to your question as to why "women of the geeky persuasion have a habit of letting themselves go"
I mean, really, how is anyone going to answer that question?
I mean, really, how is anyone going to answer that question?
My theory is that attractive, and thus, quite popular people tend to avoid geeky things like the plague in their youth as to avoid their "cool" status being stripped from them. People who aren't so attractive don't have to worry about that, seeming as the kind of social system that schools breed means that unattractive people are unlikely to be popular anyway.
Personally I don't much care, though. Bad people have a tendency of making me physically sick and violently angry far more than unnatractive people.
Personally I don't much care, though. Bad people have a tendency of making me physically sick and violently angry far more than unnatractive people.
Can't say that's the case around here. Personality and interests have relatively little to do with appearance.