Another death blamed on games

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Jandau

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HOW is it any different than two kids having an argument about toys or who beat who in football or cops & robbers?

The issues here are the facts that the kids were allowed access to firearms. This was stupidity at the very least or criminal negligence at worst, and the owner of the gun should be investigated. If it is shown that the firearm wasn't properly secured, the owner should be persecuted.

I don't see how games caused this...
 

Fronken

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And yet Americans persist on having firearms legal because an old piece of paper says so, these accidents serves them right for being stupid to be honest.
 

VitalSigns

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SORRY TO POST AGAIN AND IN CAPS NO LESS, BUT ARE ANY OF YOU ACTUALLY READING THE ARTICLE???

NO ONE BLAMED A GAME!
 

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charliesauce said:
Thats why I'll never be going to america....guns being kept in houses....it being your rights to bear arms and all that malarcy....It's just crazy in my honest opinion.

This situation was inevitable.

This will continue to happen.

*sighs* at America.
Yeah, but if someone tries to change that people will throw a fit.
People already do that with rumors, and have stated they'll keep one anyway because they feel that their safety is threatened and a bunch of other things that may or may not happen to them anyway.

Trust me, it sucks. But there are a lot of responsible families who do lock up those types of weapons. The bad ones just often outshine those people though.
And there are always those who don't carry them at all.

regal90 said:
I'm sick of people trying to use games as a scapegoat in this kind of thing... the father is blame here. End of story.
The father is to blame, but many people don't want to tackle the issue about gun control and say that it's the parents that are really to blame. I don't know why. The media will circle like vultures around everything else and seem to enjoy flaming people. Bad judgement in parenting should be a gold mine for them.
 

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DannyBoy451 said:
I get the feeling that the father won't be prosecuted for being such a fucking irresponcible gun owner.
my thoughts exactly. If you HAVE to own a gun (yeah i'm english it puzzles me) Then don't keep it lying around loaded when you have 2 sub 13yr olds! Seriously lock that shit up. Guns don't kill people, people kill people... yeah but the guns help"- Eddie Izzard
 

MiracleOfSound

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The kids were unsupervised in the house with a loaded shotgun, and it's a videogames fault.

These people are comedic geniuses.
 

Dys

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Nobody blamed the video games at all, why would it bother you? They were arguaing over a videogame, what they are arguing about is perfectly relevant, it shows context and that it wasn't a premeditated act.
Hell we, as a community of gamers, surely aren't so paranoid as to demand nobody ever mentions video games at all?
 

Maheemo

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My younger brother gets mad when I beat him in Street Fighter 4 but he don't kill me, he kills his controller
 

VitalSigns

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I FEEL LIKE IM TAKING CRAZY PILLS, READ THE DAMN ARTICLE! THEY DONT BLAME A GAME AT ALL! THEY JUST SAY THE KID GOT MAD BECAUSE OF ONE, WHICH IS THE TRUTH, THERE IS NO BLAME PLACED HERE ON THE GAMING INDUSTRY!!!
 

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*tries to wrap his brain around the article and the situation*

A child died over a spat, resulting from a game. I do not indicate videogame because that distinction is irrelevant. The fact remains that he died over an act of leisure, something that is presumably meant to entertain and relax. The problem here is not the game but the people who failed to act responsibly in regard to their environment.

The brother who decided a game was a sufficiently good reason to retrieve a shotgun made the mistake of forgetting that the source of his frustration was a game, and not something worthy of consternation.

The father failed to ingrain the importance of gun safety into his children, failed to keep his gun separate from his ammunition, and failed to keep the gun in a location that only he could readily retrieve it from.

The premise of this thread, however, interpolates a bit too much into the wording of the article I think. I did not see a call to arms against video games. If it were the case, they would have named the game and informed us that it included "Graphic simulated violence."
 

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I'm not concerned about the fact that video games drove these kids to fighting with a shotgun because that simply isn't the cause.

What saddens me though is that a nine year old boy died... for so little. A few rounds of a video game.

And they say guns are supposed to make us safe.
 

VitalSigns

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Dys said:
Nobody blamed the video games at all, why would it bother you? They were arguaing over a videogame, what they are arguing about is perfectly relevant, it shows context and that it wasn't a premeditated act.
Hell we, as a community of gamers, surely aren't so paranoid as to demand nobody ever mentions video games at all?
THANK YOU, i dont think anyone is reading the article, I think there just posting, if you read this article it is obvious that they aren't blaming the game industry at all this is my 4'th post on this thread about this, and everyone just ignored it.
 

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Kukakkau said:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090610/twl-boy-9-shot-dead-in-video-game-row-3fd0ae9.html

Is it just me or are they focusing too much on the video game part of this in the title and article for what happened? It's not as if the game demanded the kid argue with his brother while holding a shotgun.
I think it's just you...

The only time the mentioned the game was when they said the two brothers were arguing over a video game. It didn't say what the game was, they didn't even mention it was a violent one. I think you're the one looking to pick a fight here.

To me it seems like the fact it was a game that caused the argument had very little to do with the story. Mostly it was the fact the brothers argued, if they had argued over something else it seems to me that that would have got the same mention.

Really, no need to get so defensive.
 

Jandau

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VitalSigns said:
I FEEL LIKE IM TAKING CRAZY PILLS, READ THE DAMN ARTICLE! THEY DONT BLAME A GAME AT ALL! THEY JUST SAY THE KID GOT MAD BECAUSE OF ONE, WHICH IS THE TRUTH, THERE IS NO BLAME PLACED HERE ON THE GAMING INDUSTRY!!!
Indeed, it doesn't have anything to do with games, so I'm puzzled why the OP decided to post it on a gaming forum in the first place...
 

chenry

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The article doesn't really suggest that games played a very large roll in this. It was the reason for an argument, but it's not like he shot him because the games had warped his brains or anything. It was an accident. A pretty retarded accident, but an accident.

I'd like to know why a loaded shotgun was left out where kids can get it. But hey, that's just the common sense talking.
 

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Yeah, they're not exactly saying 'lets burn all video games' are they? They're just stating what happened in this case, which is fair enough. Although, if this were in the UK, that father would probably have been tried for negligence.
 

MiracleOfSound

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'Daddy, Jimmy has Martyrdawm on again it ain't fair you damn fool cheapo'
'Shut up you fawkin newb you have Juggernawt on'
'Oh my god that's it... BANG'

'What'n the howdy hell are you kids doin in there, y'all bett'r not be gett'n mah shotgun messy now, y'hear... damn vidya games'
 

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VitalSigns said:
As much as I think the media gives the video game industry to much burden and blame for this, I read this whole article and no one blamed the video game industry at all. The title simply stated what happened, if they were blaming a certain game, if would be littered all over the article.
I'm just saying the way I interpreted it, I apologise for voicing my opinion on the matter.

Also the site I got the link from normally shows a picture of policemen for crime related articles but for this one they decided to use a picture of a 360 controller, which appears kid of blamesome.