Anyone outside the US that bothered about Captain America?

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Jegsimmons

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ShakyFt Slasher said:
It's not offensive to love your country. If they made a British, Russian or other version it wouldn't be bothersome.
their a whole team of captains. brazil, canada, france, uk, ect.

captain america was just the first
 

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Hafrael said:
Cap A is colossal dick. He has 0 personality beyond "I must fight for my country. GOD FUCKING BLESS AMERICA... FUCK YEA!"
I take it you have never actually encountered any media involving captain America before these trailers?
 

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I'm Canadian and I really couldn't give a damn if I seen the movie or not, nothing to do with a hatred for America, comics or anything it just does not look it will be a very good movie. I'll see him in the Avengers I guess.
 

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I'm British and I'm pretty excited, he's one of my favourite comic book characters because unlike so many of the Marvel guys he's not got any real kind of "super" power, his power is that he's physically in prime condition ie he's as strong, fast, agile and as smart as a person in prime condition, he's extremely well trained and he has experience unlike most super heroes (apart from Nick Fury and possibly the Punisher.). I have an original Captain America no.1 and an original copy of his origin story and even though he's not from my country he represents liberty, justice and love for your country thing that I think no matter what flag you wave you can appericiate.


Gizmo1990 said:
For the record this IS NOT a rant about America or WW2 i am well aware that without them Britain could not have lasted much longer
This part however (just because I like stirring the trolls) I disagree with. Really the west didn't win the war, the Russian's counter attack is what crippled the Nazi war machine (Operation Barbarossa's failure) and alowed the allies to win the war. Also a fun fact about WW2 is that if the Nazi's had taken the UK, FDR (the American President at the time) had a back up plan in which he would sign a peace treaty with the Third Reich in order to secure America's independence from the Nazi's for the turn over of certain minority groups being deported from the US along with fleeing high value targets. (stirring complete)
 

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TestECull said:
I'm from America and who is that?
yeah pretty much this. i have never cared for the character, despite my living the the country of his name.


Off topic: my captcha was Gingers, Lestallo. this has nothing to do with anything but for somereason i feel like sharing.
 

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KingsGambit said:
Jordi said:
I haven't seen that much of it, but to me a superhero movie is a superhero movie.
This is pretty much it. It's just a fun superhero film (I hope!). Norse gods, mutant abilities, radioactive spiders, gadgets and tech suits, super-soldier serum...typical superhero stuff. Trailers look good, woman in it is hot and Hugo Weaving is the villain. Hugo Weaving is Awesome (yes, with a capital A!). Hero could be called Captain Anything-you-like, America is just a name.

The only criticism I have against Marvel (and I really am a fan) is that almost all their heroes live and operate in and around New York. I realise that is where Stan Lee grew up and it is where their offices are but seriously, can't they look somewhere other than the window for inspiration? I guess as it's made by americans, for americans, it makes sense to stay there, but come on? Are americans that shallow that any media which isn't both a) set in the US and b) starring an american totally without interest? In my experience, they are not.

Spiderman, X-Men, Daredevil, Avengers and the Fantastic Four ALL protect New York. I mean what about the rest of the US? The world? And why does every single Marvel villain have a hard-on for New York? I mean surely one of them would pause and think "Right, with all those heroes in New York, why don't I just avoid that one single city and take over Australasia, Asia, Europe, S. America, AND Africa instead?". I mean the Euro is stronger than the dollar so any financially motivated villains would at least check xe.com first, and any megalomaniacs could happily rule 5.5billion out of 6billion of the worlds population without ANY super-hero interference. But no, they HAVE to destroy New York.
Spiderman and Daredevil are what we like to call "street level" super heroes. They only operate within New York because their powers don't allow them to. Spiderman can't go any where because 1. People are gonna be wondering where Peter Parker is all the time. 2. He is only fast enough to catch criminals in the city with buildings to swing from. Same for DareDevil. Now you may think "Then what about Captain America, he is even slower!" He can go where ever he wants because everyone knows his secret identity and he has access to the Avengers quin-jets. Avengers are based and handle things everywhere. Thor usually touches down in New Mexico, Black Panther is king of Wakanda, [located in Africa]. They go to Latveria to beat up Dr.Doom occasionally, and other things that I'm not nerdy enough to know. Xmen are in San Francisco now. Fantastic Four usually protect the whole universe by going to different planets and dimensions all the time.
 

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ShakyFt Slasher said:
It's not offensive to love your country. If they made a British, Russian or other version it wouldn't be bothersome.
Actually, they did. They damn well did for almost every country out there. Someone else already mentioned one of the British ones. (Also, apparently there was a completely separate British version that was not a Captain, named Union Jack. If you try to google search for just that, you'll get what a union jack normally refers to.) 'nuf said.

Gizmo1990 said:
Anyway what do you guys think. About Captain America not the war.
First off... I'd like to call myself half-American. It's the country I was born in, raised in for most my life, where both my parents and most of my grandparents were originally from, and whose dialect I speak in most of the time. However, my father spent many of his formative years growing up in Britain, and passed along his adopted British mannerisms to us (and some that I'm sure were not British... such as his habit of making fun of whining by resaying it in a young schoolboy's posh British accent, or randomly dropping into Cockney. I don't yet know why he does that one.) I've been known to practise non-American spelling, more than half of the programs I watch/have watched are from across the pond, and well over half the books I've read and many of my favourites were unaltered British books (and that's not because they're classics. Terry Pratchett isn't old enough to be classic, and the Horrible Histories series couldn't qualify as that if you gave it a powdered wig and a piano.) And let's not get into cooking, or the history I've learned and from what perspectives that was. So, half-American.
I honestly also could care less about Captain America, but not because he's American. Certainly patriotism is one reason blokes would like to watch the movies, but I don't consider people who stand behind someone because they're kitted up in your flag good examples of patriotism. No, my indifference of Captain America is a little deeper... its what he stands for. World War and Cold War fantasy, great sacrifice for the sake of power, self-sacrifice so others may live, that lot just doesn't really interest me. Plus, essentially he's a scientifically engineered Wolverine-esque supersoldier with a giant handled discus (a shield is less of an offensive weapon than even a gauntlet, and that's originally just designed to protect your hand from sword cuts) instead of claws, and a skin-tight Star-Spangled Banner to slip into.
Plus, I am confused as to if Red Skull is supposed to be a Nazi, a Communist, or both.

Besides, honestly, the people who would say they want to watch Captain America because of the America thing, are one step above saying "'Mericuh! YEAH! Let's go fight them terro-Commu-Nazi Zombies!" with a straight face.
 

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KingsGambit said:
Trailers look good, woman in it is hot and Hugo Weaving is the villain.
... you know what, I think that's a good enough reason to see it. Even if Captain America himself ends up sucking, Hugo Weaving is a good enough actor to make it worth it.
 

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I think it looks badass, simply because two of my favorite things are Superheroes (specifically of the Marvel variety, but I love Batman too) and WWII, so this is like the best of both worlds (AND IT LEADS UP TO THE AVENGERS OH SHIT)
 

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Fangobra said:
Feh, nationalist icons never really gain much popularity outside their host country. That's not the point of them if you think about it. Just hope they don't do Captain Britain and Captain Canada.

Because frankly, that would be a level of patronising that simply isn't done any more.

That said, however, from the trailers it does actually look like it might be one of the better recent superhero flicks.
I did my under-graduate thesis on Captain America and patriotism and during my research i found that they have a captain canada and a captain britian.

Captain Britian's character evolved into somekind of super magic guy/trancedant being thing while captain Canada... fails at life. literally, the guy doesn't even have a job.
 

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I am Australian and I am psyched for this movie. The trailers look awesome. only recently got into comic books, but hell yeh this looks sweet. Who cares what his name is.
 

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Freakout456 said:
zombie711 said:
ShakyFt Slasher said:
It's not offensive to love your country. If they made a British, Russian or other version it wouldn't be bothersome.
Also, They do have a captin russia. His name is The red guardian

There is also a Captain Britain as well.

Then theres also Union Jack (who, I think, is more like Captain America than Captain Britain.. But don't quote me on that)
Put it in spoilers coz its a big friggin picture. Cool though. =P.


OT: I'm a New Zealander, and I'm pretty excited about Captain America. I mean, Chris Evans was the highlight of the fantastic four movies for me, and I can see him doing well in Cap America. Also, Hugo Weaving playing Red Skull? And looking not only awesome, but rather intimidating too? Yes, I'm SO in for that.
 

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I'm definitely going to see the movie and hope it's as incredible as the trailer's appeal has been to me. My take on Captain America has less to do with nationalism and more of how an idealistic and somewhat naive character is given the abilities to do what he's always been unable to do and stop over-the-top villains like the red skull.

So really it has to do with what is going on in the sidelines of world war II and how it will lead up to the avengers. The character was born during the golden age of comics so it's natural to start where he was created but even more interesting is now, as we'll see later in the avengers, his persona is a by-gone age of idealism/patriotism that makes him come off more as a relic of the past, even to other marvel characters.
 

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Joshica Huracane said:
Freakout456 said:
zombie711 said:
ShakyFt Slasher said:
It's not offensive to love your country. If they made a British, Russian or other version it wouldn't be bothersome.
Also, They do have a captin russia. His name is The red guardian

There is also a Captain Britain as well.

Then theres also Union Jack (who, I think, is more like Captain America than Captain Britain.. But don't quote me on that)
Put it in spoilers coz its a big friggin picture. Cool though. =P.


OT: I'm a New Zealander, and I'm pretty excited about Captain America. I mean, Chris Evans was the highlight of the fantastic four movies for me, and I can see him doing well in Cap America. Also, Hugo Weaving playing Red Skull? And looking not only awesome, but rather intimidating too? Yes, I'm SO in for that.
I now want to see a movie featuring Union Jack.

Never been a huge fan of captain America, but I am looking forward to the movie pretty much because of Hugo Weaving. I have yet to be dissapointed by any of his performances and look forward to Red Skull kicking ass. Plus this should be the last flic befre the avengers so that should be fun. Canadian by the way.

As a side note why do all the Canadian superheroes blow goats?