Are Humans Stupid or Evil?

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Mjolnir07

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Evil is a mechanism of intelligence. Mankind cannot simultaneously be a stupid and an evil race. To be evil is to completely comprehend the negative implications of your actions, and not just to perform those actions regardless of their negative implications but to perform them merely for the sake of their negativity. Even the most scrutinized of criminals over the most nefarious of crimes still in some way rationalize that there was at minimum an acceptable amount of due reason to commit the act(s). To succeed a degree of profound wickedness, there must truly be no benefit to anyone, especially ones self, in a deed, yet merely the harm of malevolence inflicted upon others, as well this deed must be an act motivated plainly by the desire for that infliction.

Mankind cannot be stupid and evil. I say that we are just stupid.
 

Jaythulhu

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The 4 Things you can guarantee about every human in existence:

1) We're stupid, especially in groups. Our intellect decreases further as the group grows in size.
2) We're arrogant.
3) We're greedy.
4) We're horny.

Inherently evil, though? Nah. Can't agree wtih that. Since we have the capacity and ability for both good and evil, I'd say we're more of a neutral species, though one easily given in to temptation and vice.
 

magnuslion

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awwww. we have to pick just one? thats BS. I think we should all be chaotic stupid evil.

but seriousley, can you imagin if sharks had evolved at the same rate as us? ((shudders at the implications))
 

TheNumber1Zero

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Ahhpple said:
Neither. Humans are naturally good and are perverted into evil and most every human has the capacity for intelligent thought. hth
humans are born with tears in their eyes and are demanding with no consideration for others into it is hammered into them by the ones they tormented.we are born stupid,rude,uncaring and with sin(I havee areligion so I thought I'd throw that in)
 

rowdy589

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I have to stay these statements brings forth a question still being discussed. Are humans born evil or do they learn evil from their enviroment. Will a person who at birth is given everything they need or want still comit acts of evil? Will the betray lie kill simply because they are able. I have seen myself acts of cruelty simply for amusement. But is there a deeper reason behind these acts. Is the psycologically dribble that seaps its way in to everything validated by human actions or are people simply trying to find ways to justify evil acts so as that can believe they are doing good. As the old saying goes "The man who commits evil can not sleep, but the man who has evil done upon him sleeps peacefully."
 

lwm3398

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ignorant, not stupid, and not evil, just so set in their own ways and thinking their right that they will kill to prove it, like with the crusades, inquisition, suicide bombers.
 

Naeo

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Humans are fine. Humanity sucks. (difference: humans = individual people, humanity = the collective of the entire species) And collectively, humans and humanity are pretty retarded.

I won't say "good" or "evil". Not to sound all "I know more than you/fuck established beliefs" and all that jazz, but we did kind of arbitrarily assign good to what we want/like and evil to what we don't want/dislike. No real cosmic standard of good and evil exists, so I can't really say what we are. Going by what has been generally established, though, that really depends on the group. Some groups (Salvation Army, Red Cross, Unicef, and, yes, a lot of churches (every church I know of in my city has organized community service events to clean up schools and whatnot) etc) are, at least in their general goals, good and benevolent organizations. Some (ideologues, Westboro Baptists, any and all terrorist/criminal organizations, etc) are, by their goals, fundamentally evil. As for actual actions, that depends on a per-group basis.
 

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Nurb said:
A PERSON can be intelligent and reasonable, but people in groups are stupid, easily manipulated and barely above a herd of animals.

just look at those who watch fox news!
Its called the mob mentality and its a proven fact.
 

iTeamKill

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Nurb said:
A PERSON can be intelligent and reasonable, but people in groups are stupid, easily manipulated and barely above a herd of animals.

just look at those who watch fox news!
Please... Like watching CNN makes you a step above fox. One is a conservative psychopath set on riding the world of non-'Mericans, the other are capricious liberals lost in their own inflated sense of self worth. Both sides are assholes. The person screaming that everyone who doesn't support gay marriage is a gay basher is just as bad as the person calling a girl who gets an abortion a murderer. Both sides of the story have a solid argument and neither liberals or conservatives are willing to listen to the other half.
 

Zhalath

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Nice to talk to you, Hobbes.

"Stupidity" and "evil" are negative ideas. In saying that something is stupid or evil, you are implying that perhaps change should be made. If we are able to recognize that something is stupid or evil, does that not make our own view of it different, as it is not the norm?
So, what does that say about us?
 

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TheNumber1Zero said:
Ahhpple said:
Neither. Humans are naturally good and are perverted into evil and most every human has the capacity for intelligent thought. hth
humans are born with tears in their eyes and are demanding with no consideration for others into it is hammered into them by the ones they tormented.we are born stupid,rude,uncaring and with sin(I havee areligion so I thought I'd throw that in)
Hmm yes, instead of being cared for by his or her mother a baby should instead be considerate/polite/caring of others and take care of itself, this is a reasonable expectation of an infant!
 

LewsTherin

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I think the main thing is that each person that is born has to learn everything about the world and interaction, so any advancement of society happens at a very, very slow pace.
 

darkless

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Slick Samurai said:
darkless said:
Slick Samurai said:
Grayjack72 said:
Both, but I think humans are more ignorant than stupid.
Hmm, maybe we are. But what ignorance are we guilty of? Are we denying something or is there something we do not know or understand?
There is a lot we dont know or understand and a lot which we actively avoid knowing or understanding. We spend millions launching things into space but when was the last time any significant effort was put into getting to the deepest parts of the ocean or exploring the amazon?
But why is exploring the ocean or the Amazon more important that knowing what may or may not be outside of our home, and how does it make us ignorant? Perhaps knowing more about the forest around the cave that the cave itself can be considered stupid. But what may lay outside the cave? Maybe a cozy cabin, maybe nothing but the stillness of the woods, if you pardon my metaphor.
Knowing about our home is more important for the simple reason of it's where we live if you were buying a house and the realter showed you a plot of land with a dilapidated building in it you wouldn't go "oh nice neighborhood I'll take it". No, you would want to see the interior, you would want to know everything about it before launching off to explore your neighborhood, by actively ignoring the most important part you are being rather stupid, right now the earth itself is far more important to us than space is.
 

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TheNumber1Zero said:
Ahhpple said:
Neither. Humans are naturally good and are perverted into evil and most every human has the capacity for intelligent thought. hth
humans are born with tears in their eyes and are demanding with no consideration for others into it is hammered into them by the ones they tormented.we are born stupid,rude,uncaring and with sin(I havee areligion so I thought I'd throw that in)
And don't forget destructive. If you ever watch a baby left to his/her own devices, his/her natural tenancy is to break, or at least try to break, whatever he/she happens to get into. That's why I always get nervous when my sister and parents let my 1 and a half year old nephew get into absolutely everything.
 

SpyderNynja

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Humans are only stupid in the sense that we made up the terms,"good and evil". There is no such thing in the natural world.