Are Humans Stupid or Evil?

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Gadzooks

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Evil is a human concept. Humans can only be evil because we had enough intelligence to create a word for it. In nature, evil is just the most badass ruthless animal out there, eating donkey and taking pelts.
 

Slick Samurai

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asteroth21nox said:
Confusious (yes I know, spelled wrong) once argued the nature of man is good because if a man saw a baby about to fall into a well, he would instinvtively rush to save the child from falling without a thought. Because the reaction is instinctual, the nature of man must be good. And as for the lioness argument, our opinion could never dictate what evil really is. The lioness is simply a creature of nature, she is programmed to hunt and mate and eat. Her real nature is nuetral if you think about it. As for humanity, I believe our nature ultimatly is good but stupid. there is an old saying that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.I believe that applies much to your question.I'll even go as far as to say, that if you think long and hard about it, evil is a by product of stupid lol.
asteroth21nox said:
True, the instincts are of nature and thus nuetral as most forces of nature but by virtue of the nature of his instincts to save the child, dosen't that make him good? You could argue the lion's instincts are evil because it tells the lioness to kill but it's for it's own survival because it eats what it kills. The man saves the baby without regard of consiquence. Now that I think about it, maybe it's because of instinct man is good but because of his intelligence, because of opinion, evil exsists.
Point well made.
 

Mozared

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Radeonx said:
Less stupid, more ignorant. And less evil, more selfish. That's how I see it, anyways.
That, really. 'Evil' is a fairly loose term, I'd say selfishness/greed combined with stupidity is the cause of human suffering.
 

riskroWe

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I'm probably the only one who thinks this, but compared to all other animals, humans are highly intelligent and have sophisticated morals.

Compared to the 10 most moral and intelligent people on earth though, the rest of the human race is pure scum.

Depends how you look at it I think.
 

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Knonsense said:
Ahhpple said:
There is really no equivalence between the left and the right. There is no liberal version of Glenn Beck, for example. The left has nowhere near the amount of dishonesty, hatred, and factual errors the right has. This type of thinking--"well the far right is crazy so there must be someone just as crazy on the left!!!"--ends up going nowhere and is the laziest way to take a political stance. This Southpark style argument that the insanity is split equally between both aisles is crap and basically what I'm trying to say is pick a side and stick with it.
edit: this is offtopic though so ignore me
It sounds like you are simply too close to the left to see any of the crazy people on the left. Is it possible that you're left of them? Do you think that the American Green party is reasonable, for example?
I'm actually Canadian so your left is pretty moderate to me. I suppose you could call me "left of the left." Anyways, I don't know much about the American Green Party so let's take a look at their website [http://www.gp.org/index.php]! First thing I see is "Greens to attend 'Medicare: Made In America' rally on July 30, call for Single-Payer and an end to the insurance industry's 'death grip' on health care" so that's a good start, the USA has a horrid health care system. But I guess what I really want is their Platform Page which is from 2004, but it's the most recent I can find. I can't read the entire thing so I just read the 10 Key Values [http://www.gp.org/platform/2004/intro.html#998247] they hold. And I tell ya, they seem pretty solid to me. If someone in the American Green Party has done something remotely comparable to my favourite [http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200907150016] nutcase [http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200904220010] Glenn [http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200905120037] Beck [http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200903170029], I'd be glad to hear it. Or tell me the specific crazy parts of their agenda, since I couldn't read the entire thing.
 

geldonyetich

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Humankind is merely ignorant, and ignorance is the root of all evil. (Not money, which is but a conduit it might travel.)

You want to combat evil? Seek knowledge and the training to interpret it without following it blindly. In other words, an education, ideally a critical-thinking focused one that doesn't teach you to just parrot answers.

The fight against evil starts and ends with every individual's capacity to reason.
 

Knonsense

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Ahhpple said:
I'm actually Canadian so your left is pretty moderate to me. I suppose you could call me "left of the left." Anyways, I don't know much about the American Green Party so let's take a look at their website [http://www.gp.org/index.php]! First thing I see is "Greens to attend 'Medicare: Made In America' rally on July 30, call for Single-Payer and an end to the insurance industry's 'death grip' on health care" so that's a good start, the USA has a horrid health care system. But I guess what I really want is their Platform Page which is from 2004, but it's the most recent I can find. I can't read the entire thing so I just read the 10 Key Values [http://www.gp.org/platform/2004/intro.html#998247] they hold. And I tell ya, they seem pretty solid to me. If someone in the American Green Party has done something remotely comparable to my favourite [http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200907150016] nutcase [http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200904220010] Glenn [http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200905120037] Beck [http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200903170029], I'd be glad to hear it. Or tell me the specific crazy parts of their agenda, since I couldn't read the entire thing.
I suppose that their desire for what they call equal distribution of resources sends some red flags up in my mind, but it doesn't sound like you would have a problem with that. I also don't like government control and rationing of health care.

Then there is this:
http://www.greenparty.org/Platform.php said:
Maximum Income: Build into the progressive income tax a 100% tax on all income over ten times the minimum wage.
Even if you don't think that's crazy, I think that most people would.

EDIT: Also, you seem to take Glenn Beck far too seriously. And the website with those clips seems to be full of very thick people.
 

Vrex360

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Stupidly Evil.

They are ignorant of the world around them, for every person working to help clean up the world there are about thirty thousand people who continue to make it a mess. There are sadistic people who kill for pleasure and of course countries wage wars constantly. They have been poisoning the world with pollution and now are most likely going to be a key factor in the death of this world, as a species they are fundemantally insane and violent. It's all they can really do.
Humans walk around with a misguided image of self righteousness and really are the least impressive animal to be born on Earth... certainly the most destructive.
 

Akai Shizuku

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geldonyetich said:
Humankind is merely ignorant, and ignorance is the root of all evil. (Not money, which is but a conduit it might travel.)

You want to combat evil? Seek knowledge and the training to interpret it without following it blindly. In other words, an education, ideally a critical-thinking focused one that doesn't teach you to just parrot answers.

The fight against evil starts and ends with every individual's capacity to reason.
-gives hi-five and a bag of Skittles-
 

Arsen

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I deep down believe many cannot overcome the pain in their pasts others inflicted upon them. Therefore the stupidity of many forces contributes to anothers demise.
 

Yoshemo

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Not evil. Just stupid. All the "evil" people (other than cult leaders) thought they were doing good, or weren't well
 

manaman

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Do you people all think you are not human? I only saw a couple of replies with "we" in them. If you are not willing to apply these labels you are using to yourself then you are probably either wrong about them, or wrong about your self. No matter how much we all want to think we are something special, we are all more alike then we can imagine. We are only different in the little stuff, and how we act about it.
 

Razorback0z

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There is no evil, only degrees of ignorance.

Every single study that has been done relating education level to superstition has shown categorically that education kills superstition.

As the world pumps out more and more uneducated, poverty stricken morons, our descent into a split society of rational humnaists capable of critical thought and witch burning religious nutjobs will continue.

There is no evil, only degrees of ignorance.
 

epiphany1993

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evil humans are evil by nature which is why im athiest... i choose to be good without fear of a deity going to hell orheavan