Avatar is out on DVD Now! YAY!!!

[Samurai Goomba]

YOu know, its funny, the more popular somehting is, the more vocal the people who don't like it are. In fact, i have seen more people just be blatantly rude to people who liked the movie than anywhere else. It makes for some interesting discussions, but man does it ever get tedious after a while. No biggy though, everybody is entitled to thier own opinion. Besides, hate doesn't last as long as enjoyment. Soon the Avatar haters will find somehting else to do or hate, and we fans will be left in peace.

Nope, I'll always consider Avatar exactly what it is. Shit wrapped up in a beautiful box, complete with bow and matching Sci-Fi paper. At least, unless it does me a favor and just dies.

Regardless, I'm not generally one to hate on a movie without my reasons. It's boring, poorly written, poorly acted, boring, the action was lame, and it's nothing we haven't seen before.

But that's just my opinion.

At least it's not crap wrapped in a crap box with more crap sprinkled on top, which was the case with Transformers. And tons of people still defended that movie.

I expected to hate Avatar, but honestly I enjoyed it for the simple movie it is. The acting and one-dimensional characters easily undercut the obvious message and even imbue the film with some unintentional comedy. The movie itself looks great and has some amazing effects, it's exciting and was a lot of fun for me to watch. Sure, you know how it's going to end, but the same could be said for a lot of films. Not every movie is going to be made by Martin Scorcese, Stanley Kubrick, David Fincher or Quentin Tarantino. For a popcorn flick I thought it was good. Exactly the sort of movie Transformers could have been if Michael Bay wasn't one of the world's worst filmmakers of all time.

At least Avatar knows what genre it is and the crew can pull off simple things like framing and camera work without bouts of idiocy mucking everything up.

 

[Plinglebob]

I'll buy this when it ends up dropping in price because retailers bought too many and so need to flog their extra stock cheaply. I never saw this at the cinema as it was a choice between Avatar and Sherlock Holmes and Holmes sounded like it would be far more entertaining.

 

[TheRealCJ]

YOu know, its funny, the more popular somehting is, the more vocal the people who don't like it are. In fact, i have seen more people just be blatantly rude to people who liked the movie than anywhere else. It makes for some interesting discussions, but man does it ever get tedious after a while. No biggy though, everybody is entitled to thier own opinion. Besides, hate doesn't last as long as enjoyment. Soon the Avatar haters will find somehting else to do or hate, and we fans will be left in peace.

Perhaps you shouldn't make a pointless thread about it on a gaming website then.

 

[jamescorck]

Not getting it...Yet.

James Cameron is going to re-release the movie on theaters with 40 more minutes of footage and then in Novemeber the special edition will be released. That's the one I will buy! If I buy Avatar now it would be for the Riff-Trax only (yes, they are doing one).

 

[TheRealCJ]

My answer to this thread is a profound and earthshaking "bleeehhhhh"
Avatar was kindof shitty, and the only thing that kept it from being a truly BAD movie was the spectacular CGI. I would guess that on a non-theater sized screen it become an even more fascinating "meh"

In response to the whole "It's just Dances with Smurfs" thing, I don't really care that much. What killed it for me was a mix between boring characters, IN YOUR FACE ecology message and bad guys that were so hilariously overdone that by the end I was actually rooting for the RDA.

That's what killed it for me.

About 20 minutes in, I started playing "Spot the trope".

"He dies"
"He heroically sacrifices himself"
"Planet alive? That's a chekov's gun if I ever saw one"
"He's going to die soon after accepting [Main character A] as the true leader of the tribe"
"Only a few ever ridden? Main character will have one within minutes"

That sort of thing. I can ignore a few cliches, and I can ignore a rehashed plot, but I can't ignore a rehashed plot so thick with cliches I can't actually appreciate what they're trying to do with the material.

The sad thing is, I went in optimistic. I liked Dances with Wolves, and hell, Star Wars was just [Standard Western Plot A] in SPACE! I was actually looking forward to what James Cameron (definitely not my favourite director) could do with the material. I was severly dissapointed.

 

[TheRealCJ]

YOu know, its funny, the more popular somehting is, the more vocal the people who don't like it are. In fact, i have seen more people just be blatantly rude to people who liked the movie than anywhere else. It makes for some interesting discussions, but man does it ever get tedious after a while. No biggy though, everybody is entitled to thier own opinion. Besides, hate doesn't last as long as enjoyment. Soon the Avatar haters will find somehting else to do or hate, and we fans will be left in peace.

Nope, I'll always consider Avatar exactly what it is. Shit wrapped up in a beautiful box, complete with bow and matching Sci-Fi paper. At least, unless it does me a favor and just dies.

Regardless, I'm not generally one to hate on a movie without my reasons. It's boring, poorly written, poorly acted, boring, the action was lame, and it's nothing we haven't seen before.

But that's just my opinion.

*sigh* and this is exaclty what i mean. Yes, you are entitled to your own opinion, but you went out of your way to try and start a fight. I will not indulge you, and will merely say: Yes, you are entitled to your own opinion, even though it is totally wrong.

You went out of your way to imply that we are blatantly rude simply because we dislike a movie you like. Both parties are equally responsible. My post was simply a rebuttal.

Besides, why should you care? Haters gonna' hate. Especially on the internet.

Don't forget: It's our opinions, despite being totally WRONG. Apparently our thoughts are not in any way VALID, but the OP is GRACIOUS enough to let our shit-throwing, cage rattling ignorance slide.

 

[Darth_Dude]

Avatar sex scene. That is all.

 

[Ziadaine_v1legacy]

I'll just Burn my friend's copy until I have money to buy my own version. (Some of us are quite stingee and cheap these days)

 

[JS ibanez]

Yes we know its the same story as pocahontas or dances with wolves, stop being so pretentious. But so many films these days are the same film as something else or another. I guess hype is a bit of a curse then in that respect. Although James Cameron can always say "whats that? I cant hear you over my piles of money and highest grossing film ever"

Personally I enjoyed it because it looked cool. I enjoyed some good sci/fantasy action because thats what I expected from it. Nothing special story or drama wise, just fantastically good fun to watch

I work in a theatre in Vancouver and weve been showing Avatar since december and we still are showing it. It still sells out on weekends despite the fact that the entire world has seen it 5 times now. Its seriously looking like the first film thats going to be out on dvd and in the cinema simultaneously. I think I'll have to wait a while and forget about avatar for a while before I feel tempted to buy it on dvd

 

[Vern]

I'm going to emphatically say no, then I'll go watch Full Metal Jacket again. CGI movies full of blue cat people don't really strike my fancy. Conversations and trials of real people in the real world seem to make far more interesting movies to me.

 

[Dexiro]

It's a great film but the hype ruins it. You can't really argue that it's just "pretty" or super cliched because those don't make it a bad film and 80% of other films are guilty of that.

I'm still sick of hearing about it though. I was lucky enough to see it before the hype went through the roof, but since then i've seen it grow into some disturbing nerd fantasy.

Even one of my best friends has started acting all depressed, draws blue people 24/7, has bought everything avatar related and covered his wall with blue people posters. Oh and he's seen it like 7 times, barely with the money to pay for it. He pretty much blackmailed me into going to the cinema to see it with him once >.<
It's annoying as hell and he doesn't even realise how sad all of this is.

 

[Hobonicus]

I'm not exaggerating when I say that I hate Avatar more than any other movie I've seen. Not because it's necessarily worse than any other film, but because of how overwhelmingly arrogant it is. It's just your usual flashy popcorn flick, no better than Transformers or Star Trek, but it's praised as such a revolutionary film from so many shallow perspectives.

I actually thought the acting was pretty good, and cinematography was probably above average. Unlike most, I hated the graphics. Granted I didn't see it in 3D (which shouldn't justify anything), but as a rule of thumb, if you know something is computer generated then they're doing it wrong, no matter how pretty it seems. This also ties in with how conceited the film is. Instead of filming in a jungle, or use makeup, they needlessly spend millions animating everything on a computer just because they've got money to burn. I even thought District 9 looked better graphically. In District 9, the Prawns looked real, but in Avatar everything is ridiculously smooth, and it's noticeable when the actors are shot next to a computer made being.

I could rant for days about how unoriginal, insulting, derivative, and boring this film is, but in the end it really boils down to it's arrogance. I usually try to let people have their say and ignore opinionated discussion, but Avatar is absolutely nothing special.

EDIT: before my argument becomes invalidated for sounding pretentious, I'd like to say that while I have seen a ton of movies, I have never taken a class on film theory, and my list of favorites is diverse while remaining mostly mainstream.

 

[WalkNasty]

Avatar sex scene. That is all.

all they are gonna do is tie up their hair together. im a little surprised that wasnt in the final cut of the movie anyway

 

[Nouw]

My Dad loves it BUT we have an SD TV so we probably won't get it.

 

[Proverbial Jon]

Well I'm going to add something to this discussion that I haven't seen much of so far...

A positive comment! *gasp!*

I had to endure the hype of this film for about 5 months before its release and I was quite intrigued for this time. When it was released in cinemas I didn't make much effort to go see it as I thought what most people here are saying "It's just one big graphical show off"

It wasn't until a month after release that I saw it in 3D with a friend when we had nothing better to do, that I realised how much I loved it. I have now seen it 4 times and the wonder of it holds me the same way every time.

Now you can all say how sad that sounds and how I need to watch a real film, but I think the effect it has alone is one of the film's redeeming features. The film is more of an experience, taking into account the graphics, the 3D, the acting, the world and plot, it makes it one of the most engaging and emotional films I have seen in a very long time. You cannot pick out one aspect of it and hack it appart, that's not fair.

Unfortunately the UK release is not until this Monday coming, but I have bought a Blu-Ray player (cheapest I could find admitedly) and have preordered the Blu-Ray version in anticipation. I wanted the best possible quality but I have no doubts that this film will stand up on its own merits, the 3D simply enhanced an already spectacular experience.

To all the haters I say: yah boo sucks to you! I'm just sorry you didn't find the same enjoyment lots of others did. Also, highest grossing film OF ALL TIME doesn't really mean all that much does it?

To the American fans: Enjoy the DVD/Blu-Ray release, you lucky guys you! I can't wait to see it in a few more days!