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NightHawk21 said:
Realitycrash said:
(Taken directly from my previously created Topic, since none seems to be responding)

I know, I'm supposed to accept it as willing suspension of disbelief..But really, how can they have a Bending-Arena where they shoot fire and earth-disks at one-another? Water I might get, but FIRE? Wouldn't this be close to lethal?

What's the in-universe explanation for those that get hit (say, a water-bender) with an earth-disk at full force to the chest, how do they survive it? Sure, they wear SOME armor, but enough to take one at the speeds they are shown? I doubt it.
Is it part of every bending-style everywhere that you get a "resistance-shield", so you are able to transfer kinetic energy, no matter what element?

I understand when it comes to Same Element vs Same Element, as you are trained to "save" vs these things (fire can absorb fire, etc), but Fire vs Earth? Fire vs Water?
And yes, they do show (in the latest episode) fighters taking full-blown hits to the body without any bending-defence to migate.
So, anyone have an official explanation, or theory? I know it's a "kidsshow", but it confuses me..I mean, look at Zuko's face..

(And yeah, more OT: It rocks so far. Except the STUPID V for Vendetta ripoff)
There's a video the inventor of probending made when he was telling the animators about it. I saw it awhile ago, but I think the discs are made of clay so they break on impact, and face shots are not allowed from what I remember. Neither is hitting someone with ice.
If a disk hits hard enough to throw you several meters backwards, it hits hard enough to break bones and do potentially lethal damage, clay or no clay. It's a matter of velocity.
 

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I watched the complete original Avatar series back when it was regularly airing. This is already in my top five favorite TV shows.
Love it! I finally have a reason to watch Nickelodeon again.
 

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Realitycrash said:
NightHawk21 said:
Realitycrash said:
(Taken directly from my previously created Topic, since none seems to be responding)

I know, I'm supposed to accept it as willing suspension of disbelief..But really, how can they have a Bending-Arena where they shoot fire and earth-disks at one-another? Water I might get, but FIRE? Wouldn't this be close to lethal?

What's the in-universe explanation for those that get hit (say, a water-bender) with an earth-disk at full force to the chest, how do they survive it? Sure, they wear SOME armor, but enough to take one at the speeds they are shown? I doubt it.
Is it part of every bending-style everywhere that you get a "resistance-shield", so you are able to transfer kinetic energy, no matter what element?

I understand when it comes to Same Element vs Same Element, as you are trained to "save" vs these things (fire can absorb fire, etc), but Fire vs Earth? Fire vs Water?
And yes, they do show (in the latest episode) fighters taking full-blown hits to the body without any bending-defence to migate.
So, anyone have an official explanation, or theory? I know it's a "kidsshow", but it confuses me..I mean, look at Zuko's face..

(And yeah, more OT: It rocks so far. Except the STUPID V for Vendetta ripoff)
There's a video the inventor of probending made when he was telling the animators about it. I saw it awhile ago, but I think the discs are made of clay so they break on impact, and face shots are not allowed from what I remember. Neither is hitting someone with ice.
If a disk hits hard enough to throw you several meters backwards, it hits hard enough to break bones and do potentially lethal damage, clay or no clay. It's a matter of velocity.
They were throwing each other through buildings in the first one, these people have steel rods instead of bones. As it is, I'm pretty sure even in the original people got hit with fire without major* harm. Of course, I'm fairly sure they have some control over the temperature of the fire, which would also help explain it.
 

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It was an awesome, just awesome. It was fun to watch and overall just very well done. I want to say that it was the storytelling that made it so watchable. It was a bit different from the original, but different for the better. Couldn't believe I was enjoying myself watching something so good on nick.
 

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JaceArveduin said:
Realitycrash said:
NightHawk21 said:
Realitycrash said:
(Taken directly from my previously created Topic, since none seems to be responding)

I know, I'm supposed to accept it as willing suspension of disbelief..But really, how can they have a Bending-Arena where they shoot fire and earth-disks at one-another? Water I might get, but FIRE? Wouldn't this be close to lethal?

What's the in-universe explanation for those that get hit (say, a water-bender) with an earth-disk at full force to the chest, how do they survive it? Sure, they wear SOME armor, but enough to take one at the speeds they are shown? I doubt it.
Is it part of every bending-style everywhere that you get a "resistance-shield", so you are able to transfer kinetic energy, no matter what element?

I understand when it comes to Same Element vs Same Element, as you are trained to "save" vs these things (fire can absorb fire, etc), but Fire vs Earth? Fire vs Water?
And yes, they do show (in the latest episode) fighters taking full-blown hits to the body without any bending-defence to migate.
So, anyone have an official explanation, or theory? I know it's a "kidsshow", but it confuses me..I mean, look at Zuko's face..

(And yeah, more OT: It rocks so far. Except the STUPID V for Vendetta ripoff)
There's a video the inventor of probending made when he was telling the animators about it. I saw it awhile ago, but I think the discs are made of clay so they break on impact, and face shots are not allowed from what I remember. Neither is hitting someone with ice.
If a disk hits hard enough to throw you several meters backwards, it hits hard enough to break bones and do potentially lethal damage, clay or no clay. It's a matter of velocity.
They were throwing each other through buildings in the first one, these people have steel rods instead of bones. As it is, I'm pretty sure even in the original people got hit with fire without major* harm. Of course, I'm fairly sure they have some control over the temperature of the fire, which would also help explain it.
They were? I don't recall that, except Toph throwing earthbenders around, but I figure they can grant more or less immunity to damage from earth-elements, via their bending. Same way an Air-Bender can slow himself down if thrown. But I guess I have to accept the "all benders have resistance-shields as first ever to master skill".
 

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Still no new episodes?

ARRRRGGG!!!

It's good, not as great as the original (so far), but still good. Why the dude from Big O is in it... I have no idea.
Well, why would there be a new episode every day? This isn't exactly a common practice.
oddball250 said:
i have to admit i dont like it. the first series was enough and brilliant as it was i just dont think theres a need for a new avatar series
crimsonshrouds said:
Massive let down and pretty much an unneeded sequel to an ok series.
So, there's no point in telling a good story some people came up with? What's it matter if it's connected to another show? Just how is this at all a problem in any way, shape or form? Why do we need more Batman? Why do we need more Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? Why do we need more My Little Pony? This is pretty much like complaining about Batman Beyond, just because it continues from Batman: The Animated Series. You're complaining... about something good.

Mariakko said:
I'm a Avatar: The legend of Aang fan so I was already sold on The legend of Korra before I saw it. When I first watched it, I ran around the block because I was so hyper about it. I could not sleep that night.
What?

Anyway, there's one thing I noticed recently, that really stuck out at me. A paradox, really. Why does Korra have so much trouble with air-bending? Remember when this whole "opposite elements" thing was explained to Aang in the first series?

Fire is the opposite of Water, Earth is the opposite of Air.

This is why Aang had so much trouble with earth-bending. Then, when Korra has trouble with air-bending, the whole "opposite elements" thing was brought up again. But, according to what we were told before, the one she should be having trouble with is fire-bending.
 

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I'm not going to quote all the folks talking about rules, so hopefully you catch this. I can't remember exactly where I came across them, but they have actually put out a fairly extensive explanation of the pro-bending rules. From what I recall, no headshots (except with water, I think), water can only be liquid, no breaking down the disks into dust or shards or anything, no water or firebending can last more than a second (no flamethrowers or superhoses), only bend water from the grates in your position, etc. I imagine with the bending time-limits and the protective padding or whatever, you could get injured by a very powerful shot, but it's very unlikely you'll be seriously injured or killed without a rules violation. It also looks like the disks are made so that they break apart fairly safely on impact, so as not to give as strong of a blow, although that's just conjecture on my part. Also, while best 2 out of 3 rounds USUALLY wins, each round has a 2:00 time limit - whoever's doing best by the end wins the round. However, if you manage to get all 3 of the opposing team out at the same time, even if you've lost 2 of the 3 rounds and have only 1 guy left, you take the game, set, and match. Personally, I'm looking forward to when there's a tie, and they go to 1-on-1 sudden death face-offs for the tiebreakers.

Lugbzurg said:
Anyway, there's one thing I noticed recently, that really stuck out at me. A paradox, really. Why does Korra have so much trouble with air-bending? Remember when this whole "opposite elements" thing was explained to Aang in the first series?

Fire is the opposite of Water, Earth is the opposite of Air.

This is why Aang had so much trouble with earth-bending. Then, when Korra has trouble with air-bending, the whole "opposite elements" thing was brought up again. But, according to what we were told before, the one she should be having trouble with is fire-bending.
Aang didn't have trouble with earthbending because earth is traditionally the opposite of air, Aang had trouble with earthbending because it didn't click with his way of thinking - he had a traditional airbender mentality, avoiding conflict, dodging, looking for different angles of attack, rather than just being bullheaded and so determined to win that you just do it - which is what you need to earthbend properly. Korra just happens to be a REALLY aggressive waterbender, so fire's alright, she's pretty damn bullheaded, so earth's fine - but she has a problem bringing herself to take anything but the brute force approach, which does not work for airbending.

Now, just to throw my two cents into the ring, I'm curious about how they're going to tackle certain elements of the Avatar mythos - particularly the spirit world. It was a moderately important part of the original series, but it's likely to feel a little incongruous in this much-more-modern setting. That said, that means there's potential for them to do something original and interesting, so I'm looking forward to if/when it shows up.
 

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I'm giving it a chance, something I didn't exactly give to this show's predecessor. I'll give it more of a chance next Saturday.

Here's to hoping too much doesn't fly over my head (or require a wikia to understand).
So far it does not look like it, too much anyway. They do make some references to people in the previous show I guess it depends on who the masked 'anti-bender' is in the next episode. Though, I still recommend watching the original series online. Just too know who-is-who, though it is not completely needed.
 

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Sober Thal said:
Still no new episodes?

ARRRRGGG!!!

It's good, not as great as the original (so far), but still good. Why the dude from Big O is in it... I have no idea.
(so far), If I recall the best part of the original aired pilot was the opening credits where everything was explained.

I believe, (as do you, probably) that things will get better as they get on with the anti-bender war story-arc.

Also, who was the "Dude from Big-O"? I missed that.
 

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Animation budget definitely got kicked up, which is pretty nice.
I liked how they had a viewer's surrogate through Tenzin's eldest daughter, who asks about what happened to Zuko's mother, and then immediately cut her off before she got the answer. They know how to keep the returning fans happy obviously.
They've definitely learned a lot in terms of presentation and stuff like that. While the plot itself will probably remain inherently weaker, I'm sure with all that the production team has learned, this spin-off will probably turn out better.
 

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HATED IT!!!!

conspiracy, " born into " class differences, poverty

... i hate these things...

why couldn't it still be fun and silly i understand the whole "maturity" and "depth" angle but Aang had it perfect and it didn't really "down" the story...
 

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Lugbzurg said:
Mariakko said:
I'm a Avatar: The legend of Aang fan so I was already sold on The legend of Korra before I saw it. When I first watched it, I ran around the block because I was so hyper about it. I could not sleep that night.
What?
I'm an Avatar: The legend of Aang fan?
 

NightHawk21

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Sober Thal said:
Gilhelmi said:
Sober Thal said:
Still no new episodes?

ARRRRGGG!!!

It's good, not as great as the original (so far), but still good. Why the dude from Big O is in it... I have no idea.
Also, who was the "Dude from Big-O"? I missed that.
Did they show the second episode on t.v. yet? They released the first two over a week ago online, and in the second episode... eyebrows...

I started a thread on the topic a couple weeks ago and I plan on keeping it updated with links to the episodes, so if you wanna rewatch it the links are in the first post.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.356298-The-Legend-of-Korra?page=1
 

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AAAAH I AM SO EXCITED
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SERIES WITH BATED BREATH SINCE THE TEASER WAS FIRST REVEALED.

I'm so excited for the potential conflict, all of the aspects of benders vs non-benders is expected and opens up to some very complicated matters. The Last Airbender had a higher sense of maturity and depth than most typical cartoons, it was one of the few series which honestly sees animation as just a valid story telling medium as anything else, rather than a throw away medium. And I feel Korra is going to do just the same.

I also get the feeling Nick is giving them more leeway to drop into more serious and personable topics than before, since The Last Airbender proved to be such a highly acclaimed series. They've certainly gotten a larger budget for it and a huge marketing backing.

Zenron said:
Zenron said:
The style of the art for anything that is animated is drastically different from the background art. It works just fine most of the time but sometimes it kind of clashed for me. Mainly because I think the quality of the scenery is so much higher than the rest. Wasn't much of a big deal but it did kind of irritate me at the start. The art is generally a really high quality, nice to see in a western animation.

The music was great, obvious Jazz influences with a little bit of classical every now and then. I think this is the part which I generally liked the most. I pay far too much attention to the music in these kind of things, and it really is top notch here.

The characters and story so far aren't anything innovative. You have the hot headed person who thinks with their heart, the stoic mysterious guy who probably has a dark past, the old teacher who is behind the times etc etc. However, it's all executed so well that I didn't really mind.

Also, Steve Blum is the voice actor for the bad guy. He was only in it for like 5 seconds but I still recognized the voice. I mean, how I could I not notice the voice of Spike Seagal and Onizuka?
There you go, that's my views on the matter from another Legend of Korra topic.
Even in the original series the personalities started out stereotypical and grew over time. So I'd say give it time for that and the depths of the characters will unveil itself just as they did before.

Also, it's not uncommon for scenery quality to be significantly higher than the animation, I see it all the time. But I also watch a huge assortment of cartoons. Need to keep the characters simple for easier animation. Also I think the animation quality in general is just superb, all the fantastic action animation as they've had before, just kicked up a notch. Noticeable heightened production quality all around.
 

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I think that The Legend of Korra is awesome and I expect to see a lot of great things to come of this series. I'm also interested to know if there will be Three Books like in The Last Airbender and if so, what would the other two books be about.
 

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Shes the Avatar but with boobs, so yeah I like it.
Shes also older and introduced as not much as passive person like Aang was, which got annoying sometimes, not to say her sternness wont get annoying either but this tends to lead to more action then sulking.....and she has boobs.

I also like the new bending world and the equalists.
In fact the equalists make comments much like the forum users here on the escapist, waiting for the second you slip up in an argument to say your wrong.


I just dont know how long they plan to keep it going as she only needs to learn Air. So some sort of cataclysm might happen that breaks the bonds of the nations.
 

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Blazeaga said:
HATED IT!!!!

conspiracy, " born into " class differences, poverty

... i hate these things...

why couldn't it still be fun and silly i understand the whole "maturity" and "depth" angle but Aang had it perfect and it didn't really "down" the story...
Which part of the class differences? Because if you mean the "which element you can bend", that thing was already heavily implied in the original (though not explicitly stated iirc. And naturally, there are questions inherent to those ideas in the first place, but they are pretty prevalent in media for good or ill). Barring the fact they more explicitly state how people are benders or not, the positions benders are in does seem to vary more(more variety socioeconomically and just station in the city).

EDIT: Realized I may not have been clear; you have your opinion and that is awesome (some parts of it I agree with), was just curious about more specific details.


More on op; the pro-bending idea seems cool, but I hope they make it more interesting in future episodes - the ring layout seemed a bit meh, and the motions people were making didn't seem to really capture the essence of it all. I always saw the change in the landscape, and not just the fact people are shooting stuff at each other, to be the more interesting aspects of (fighting with) bending. The pro-bending showed all of none of that.

Other than that, it's looking good, though the plot points seem really obvious already (or they are setting up for a "surprise twist!" moment in an interesting way).