Batman: Awesome or A Joke

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Lyri

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Macgyvercas said:
Lyri said:
Batman is the only one who can kill Superman if he goes rogue.
Ahem! Doomsday. And I don't care if they went to a space age regeneration center, the fact is Superman still got killed.
Kneejerk post.

When Supes turns on his buddies, Bats is there to stop him.

I'm not saying Batman is the only person to kill supes in the history of ever.
 

Boba Frag

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Go and get your friend to either play Arkham Asylum or read The Dark Knight Returns.
We'll see then.

Sometimes people don't know a good thing when they see it, sometimes that thing sees them first and that's why you don't mess around with the godamn Batman!

He's my favourite comic character of all time. Probably the hero I look up to most, so I get where you're coming from.
Obviously your mate just doesn't get the richness of the Batman mythos, and it's really their loss, not yours.

I suggest you reward yourself with watching some of the Animated Series, friend.
 

ANImaniac89

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Frank Miller's Goddamn Batman is a total joke, But Batman in general is awesome and he's awesome because he can contend with super humans (also no-one can deliver a better ass kicking to the man of steel then Batman).

As for his villeins are a little more complicated then lunatics with guns.
The Joker alone has murdered well over 2000 people including Boy-side kicks, Men, Women, Children, Henchmen, Other Villeins. He also crippled Barbra Gordon, Reaped the ex-wife of a henchmen, Tried to drive Jim Gordon insane and many many other horrifying crimes.
 

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Another thing I keep thinking is "BATMAN HAS BEATEN EVERYONE, EVEN PEOPLE SUPERMAN CAN'T BEAT." You know what that means? That means the DC writers, editor, and basically the entire company are gay for batman. It is a fake little story that has no basis in reality, so naturally, it is going to come out how ever they want. And they keep wanting Batman to go over everyone. Alright, Darkseid just came off an awesome feud with Superman and barely came out alive. Great, now lets job him to Batman in a 3 second match.

Yes, I'm using wrestling terms because it is essentially the same thing. Only wrestlers eventual die or retire.
Wrestling is basically live-action superhero-ing after all. Most of us (and them) won't be getting up from some of those beatings they give each other if they let some random Joe do it =P
 

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commodore96 said:
My friend states that he is a crappy hero because he doesn't have super powers, and his main villains are just lunatics with guns (Penguin, Two-Face, Joker, Thorne etc.).
Poison Ivy, Killer Croc, Bane, ClayFace... Thouse can be considered to have super-powers
And t dont take super-power to be an awesome super heros or super villain
 

tzimize

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commodore96 said:
I LOVE BATMAN, but my friend and I recently got into an argument about how awesome he really is. I believe that he is amazing because he beats the crap out of villains, and he doesn't have any super powers. My friend states that he is a crappy hero because he doesn't have super powers, and his main villains are just lunatics with guns (Penguin, Two-Face, Joker, Thorne etc.). My question to you escapist is what do you think of Batman? Do you think he is an awesome crime fighter, or a little girl that who would never be able to take down a villain of Superman or the X-Men?
Heh. Well. Superman has all kinds of super-powers and he is probably the most boring of them all.

That said, Batman has already kicked Supermans ass. And he could kick all the other super heroes' ass too. He IS the most awesome. No matter what.
 

ImSkeletor

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Batman is not a joke but he is not that great either. He is basicly in my mind par for the course.(UNLESS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE BURTON MOVIE)He is the generic non superpowered hero like how Superman is the generic Superpowered hero. Captain America on the other hand........
[HEADING=3] CAPTAIN AMERICA:He's like Superman without super-powers. How balls-out crazy-brave is that? [/HEADING]
 

Xanadu84

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Powers have nothing to do with it. If Power=cool, then Goku would be cooler then Bogart. Jubilee would be cooler then Bruce Lee. Aquaman would be cooler then Hit Girl. Batman is cool because it's interesting to see heroics not based on the impossible, yet still in the realm of incredible and obviously fictitious. Its interesting to see heroes who have to fight against villains who don't have an advantage in overwhelming power, but in the simple fact that destruction is easier then protection, and being moral is harder then being evil. In fact, Batman and Superman, the most blatantly overpowered hero out there (In theory), have a lot in common. Id even say that Batman is like a Superman without powers. Both are characters that are rather one dimensional in order to focus solely on that dimension. Batman just focuses on that one dimension without powers.
 

Blank Kold

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Costume is still silly, even if it is based on fear.

The monologue at the end of The Dark Knight reminds me of the whole "dont believe in you, believe in the me that believes in you that believes in you," or whatever the hell that stupid meme was from gurren lagen.
 

Laser Priest

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Batman can be awesome, but his theme and that of most of his villains, along with many of the plots he's used in are simply demented.

It's taking a man with amazing combat ability and an arsenal of weapons, then putting him in spaceman pajamas, giving him a can of silly string and telling him he has to fight the circus to save the city.
 

Viking Incognito

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I specifically remember one comic where Mongol broke into the JLA compound while Batman was the only one there and he had to employ a bunch of tricks to keep Mongol at bay while Superman and Wonder Woman got came back because he could actually win. It was actually pretty cool and despite the fact that Superman actually said that Batman couldn't really beat Mongol, he still looked like a badass. So I'm saying you're right.

ImSkeletor said:
Batman is not a joke but he is not that great either. He is basicly in my mind par for the course.(UNLESS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE BURTON MOVIE)He is the generic non superpowered hero like how Superman is the generic Superpowered hero. Captain America on the other hand........
[HEADING=3] CAPTAIN AMERICA:He's like Superman without super-powers. How balls-out crazy-brave is that? [/HEADING]
Also, Captain America and Batman would be the greatest cross-over team up ever. Or they could fight. Either way it would kick ass.
 

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Viking Incognito said:
I specifically remember one comic where Mongol broke into the JLA compound while Batman was the only one there and he had to employ a bunch of tricks to keep Mongol at bay while Superman and Wonder Woman got came back because he could actually win. It was actually pretty cool and despite the fact that Superman actually said that Batman couldn't really beat Mongol, he still looked like a badass. So I'm saying you're right.http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/109153-Portal-2-ARG-Unleashes-Flood-of-Concept-Art

ImSkeletor said:
Batman is not a joke but he is not that great either. He is basicly in my mind par for the course.(UNLESS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE BURTON MOVIE)He is the generic non superpowered hero like how Superman is the generic Superpowered hero. Captain America on the other hand........
[HEADING=3] CAPTAIN AMERICA:He's like Superman without super-powers. How balls-out crazy-brave is that? [/HEADING]
Also, Captain America and Batman would be the greatest cross-over team up ever. Or they could fight. Either way it would kick ass.
They did fight and then team up in the DC vs Marvel crossover. It was awesome!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_vs._Marvel
 

kane.malakos

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Viking Incognito said:
Also, Captain America and Batman would be the greatest cross-over team up ever. Or they could fight. Either way it would kick ass.
They actually did fight each other in the DC vs. Marvel miniseries. Batman won, but not by much. It was about as awesome as you'd expect.

EDIT: Damn, ninja'd...