Bayonetta 2 announced as Wii U exclusive, console gamers pissed.

[rob_simple]

I will be surprised if this does remain an exclusive (just like Resident Evil 4 and Viewtiful Joe did, amirite?).

But who is getting their knickers in a twist over this? Does anyone really care about Bayonetta 2? The first one was alright but if I never played it again it would be far from the worst thing that could happen.

 

[dimensional]

Whoever rants on this is an amateur fanboy.

Perfect Dark was a Nintendo series and Microsoft secretly bought Rare to fire all of its people,just so they can give the licenses of the studio to some untalented slackers,and thus Perfect Dark Zero was an xbox360 exclusive and a big turd.

Secretly bought? if it was supposed to be secretly bought they failed massively.

[quote/]Halo was designed to be an Apple Macintosh exclusive,when Apple decided to strengthen its until then week gaming aspect of its computers,and Microsoft suddenly and secretly signed a dirty deal and made it an exclusive for its consoles.[/quote]

Again secretly? pls explain because I dont think it was that secret also its weak not week .

[quote/]Skyrim,a game of the once exclusive PC series,now have its dlcs having time exclusiveness for xbox360...[/quote]

Yeah its pretty crap but at least you still get mods on PC also Morrowind and Oblivion did come to consoles so it hasnt been PC exclusive for a while.

[quote/]SONY doesn't care about exclusives that much,but copies everything Nintendo does. A Mario Kart clone named Crash Bandicoot Kart or something,a Super Smash Bros clone,Wiimote clones,etc...[/quote]

Everything? I think not, the ps move was too little too late Nintendo innovated and won the crowds then Microsoft and Sony tried to copy with their *cough* superior offerings and failed. The playstation heroes thing looks like a rip off of SSMB to be fair but I would be surprised if it did well Nintendo has much more likeable characters for this type of game. As for CTR being a mario kart clone yes it was but it was also far superior to mario kart forget all the other Crash karting games though they are abyssmal.

[quote/]I can't stand hypocrisy.
It happens all the time,yet when your favorite console publisher signs exclusiveness deals you are all "Oh how great Microsoft and SONY are!!!" and yet when Nintendo does the same thing you say "Oh how dare they do such a thing ? They are evil!!".
Double standards and hypocrisy. I'm disgusted.[/quote]

I wouldnt worry about it they all suck and are great to different people just the way things are if you like a company you need help you are naturally inclined to be more leniant toward their practices and vice versa.

Anyway Nintendo publishing Bayonetta 2 as an exclusive! yup fair enough sounds like a smart move to me fair play to them and it certainly increases the likelihood I will get a WiiU sometime.

 

[Fireprufe15]

I will be surprised if this does remain an exclusive (just like Resident Evil 4 and Viewtiful Joe did, amirite?).

But who is getting their knickers in a twist over this? Does anyone really care about Bayonetta 2? The first one was alright but if I never played it again it would be far from the worst thing that could happen.

It will remain exclusive because Nintendo are publishing it. It's like saying you would surprised if Uncharted remains an exclusive.

 

[rob_simple]

Bayonetta 2 WiiU exclusive? Who gives a fuck? Just play the "re-imagined" DMC and pretend your are playing a sexy lady. God of war, DMC, darksiders, bayonetta and Dante's inferno are all exactly the same ... light, light, heavy is the game beating combo and ranged weapons do dick for damage.

they really are not the same. they are the same genre, and share similarities of most games in that genre, but calling them the same is pretty ignorant. it's like saying cod, halo and battlefield are all the same game, when they aren't.

OT: bleh, i just hope this exclusivity doesn't last. i have no intention of buying a WiiU no matter how much i loved the first bayonetta. still, i hope for the franchises' sake it does well.

COD is a fast paced, arcady shooter.

Halo is a slower paced game that lets you take a few shots most of the time, more skill based.

Battlefield is all about team work and a higher sense of realism.

now what are the differences between God of war, DMC, darksiders, bayonetta and Dante's inferno? You play a character who sponges damage, wields a weapon or 2 that a normal person couldn't possibly use (due to size or difficulty), has magic powers, fights demons of some description, might as well not have a ranged weapon.

They have different stories but they have to, as much as they have to have different sounds.

Hahahaha, did you actually just try to use CoD, Halo and Battlefield as examples of huge variety in FPS's?

There are differences far beyond what you mention in those other games. God of War revolves around gigantic set pieces and huge boss battles, it's really a spectacle fighter on an epic scale; DMC is heavily combo-driven where you jump between different weapons and play styles mid-combat to link huge chains of attack together; Darksiders is basically just a big melting pot for all the popular action game tropes and is a lot of fun as long as you don't take it seriously; Bayonetta is an old-school, hard as shit hack and slasher; and Dante's Inferno, judging by reviews, is shit.

Each one of those games, though, has more variety in the gameplay than CoD, Halo and Battlefield combined.

 

[rob_simple]

I will be surprised if this does remain an exclusive (just like Resident Evil 4 and Viewtiful Joe did, amirite?).

But who is getting their knickers in a twist over this? Does anyone really care about Bayonetta 2? The first one was alright but if I never played it again it would be far from the worst thing that could happen.

It will remain exclusive because Nintendo are publishing it. It's like saying you would surprised if Uncharted remains an exclusive.

Well then presumably it will be tailored to the Wii U's control mechanic and wouldn't work on other consoles anyway. If that's the case, I imagine Bayonetta: Some Other Title will get a release on other consoles, if Sega really think this IP has that much mileage.

 

[Mr. Omega]

I can somewhat understand the rage after Bayonetta 1 was multiplatform.

But on the other hand: It was either this or the game got canned.

Nintendo said they wanted to appeal to hardcore gamers, and there was skepticism. So they put their money where there mouth is with games like this and Rayman Legends. I don't see the problem.

 

[Arina Love]

Well this sucks. i like Bayonetta and was ready to buy another one but i just don't see appeal of buying wii U when new gen of PS and Xbox is on it's way.

 

[Fireprufe15]

I will be surprised if this does remain an exclusive (just like Resident Evil 4 and Viewtiful Joe did, amirite?).

But who is getting their knickers in a twist over this? Does anyone really care about Bayonetta 2? The first one was alright but if I never played it again it would be far from the worst thing that could happen.

It will remain exclusive because Nintendo are publishing it. It's like saying you would surprised if Uncharted remains an exclusive.

Well then presumably it will be tailored to the Wii U's control mechanic and wouldn't work on other consoles anyway. If that's the case, I imagine Bayonetta: Some Other Title will get a release on other consoles, if Sega really think this IP has that much mileage.

That's the point, SEGA are out of the picture.

 

[omega 616]

Hahahaha, did you actually just try to use CoD, Halo and Battlefield as examples of huge variety in FPS's?

There are differences far beyond what you mention in those other games. God of War revolves around gigantic set pieces and huge boss battles, it's really a spectacle fighter on an epic scale; DMC is heavily combo-driven where you jump between different weapons and play styles mid-combat to link huge chains of attack together; Darksiders is basically just a big melting pot for all the popular action game tropes and is a lot of fun as long as you don't take it seriously; Bayonetta is an old-school, hard as shit hack and slasher; and Dante's Inferno, judging by reviews, is shit.

Each one of those games, though, has more variety in the gameplay than CoD, Halo and Battlefield combined.

No, the guy who quoted me did ....

Huge boss battles? Like the one at the end of Bayonetta?

Massive combos? Like in God of war? (952 combo)

Hard as shit hack and slasher? You mean like ninja gaiden? The one I left out.

Either way, there is more difference between the three shooters than them 6 are combined.

 

[Tony2077]

I will be surprised if this does remain an exclusive (just like Resident Evil 4 and Viewtiful Joe did, amirite?).

But who is getting their knickers in a twist over this? Does anyone really care about Bayonetta 2? The first one was alright but if I never played it again it would be far from the worst thing that could happen.

It will remain exclusive because Nintendo are publishing it. It's like saying you would surprised if Uncharted remains an exclusive.

Well then presumably it will be tailored to the Wii U's control mechanic and wouldn't work on other consoles anyway. If that's the case, I imagine Bayonetta: Some Other Title will get a release on other consoles, if Sega really think this IP has that much mileage.

That's the point, SEGA are out of the picture.

that's true so the rest of us that don't see a point to getting the nintedo console are left out in the rain

 

[mronoc]

Seriously, the Wii/Nintendo grudge is a bit silly. It seems like these people would prefer that their not be a sequel at all. I'm not sure what the controls are going to end up being like, but Hideki Kamiya's still on as supervisor, and Platinum, in general, know what they're doing, so I'm still excited.

 

[Fireprufe15]

I will be surprised if this does remain an exclusive (just like Resident Evil 4 and Viewtiful Joe did, amirite?).

But who is getting their knickers in a twist over this? Does anyone really care about Bayonetta 2? The first one was alright but if I never played it again it would be far from the worst thing that could happen.

It will remain exclusive because Nintendo are publishing it. It's like saying you would surprised if Uncharted remains an exclusive.

Well then presumably it will be tailored to the Wii U's control mechanic and wouldn't work on other consoles anyway. If that's the case, I imagine Bayonetta: Some Other Title will get a release on other consoles, if Sega really think this IP has that much mileage.

That's the point, SEGA are out of the picture.

that's true so the rest of us that don't see a point to getting the nintedo console are left out in the rain

Isn't it Microsoft or Sony's fault for not picking it up then? How is Nintendo a bad guy for saving a dead franchise? I don't see a point in getting any console and I've been left out in the rain A LOT with only my PC.

 

[Tony2077]

I will be surprised if this does remain an exclusive (just like Resident Evil 4 and Viewtiful Joe did, amirite?).

But who is getting their knickers in a twist over this? Does anyone really care about Bayonetta 2? The first one was alright but if I never played it again it would be far from the worst thing that could happen.

It will remain exclusive because Nintendo are publishing it. It's like saying you would surprised if Uncharted remains an exclusive.

Well then presumably it will be tailored to the Wii U's control mechanic and wouldn't work on other consoles anyway. If that's the case, I imagine Bayonetta: Some Other Title will get a release on other consoles, if Sega really think this IP has that much mileage.

That's the point, SEGA are out of the picture.

that's true so the rest of us that don't see a point to getting the nintedo console are left out in the rain

Isn't it Microsoft or Sony's fault for not picking it up then? How is Nintendo a bad guy for saving a dead franchise? I don't see a point in getting any console and I've been left out in the rain A LOT with only my PC.

its the fault of a multi-platform publisher not picking it up. being dead would be better then a nintendo exclusive since they cut away a fair amount of a already small fan base unless there are more people who like the game then I've seen

 

[TrevHead]

Yeah Sega are well out of the picture, Colonial Marines will be their last AAA retail game they publish outside (I assume) Total War and Football Manager.

TBH I would have rather Ubisoft picked up the game, but grats to Nintendo.

 

[rob_simple]

Hahahaha, did you actually just try to use CoD, Halo and Battlefield as examples of huge variety in FPS's?

There are differences far beyond what you mention in those other games. God of War revolves around gigantic set pieces and huge boss battles, it's really a spectacle fighter on an epic scale; DMC is heavily combo-driven where you jump between different weapons and play styles mid-combat to link huge chains of attack together; Darksiders is basically just a big melting pot for all the popular action game tropes and is a lot of fun as long as you don't take it seriously; Bayonetta is an old-school, hard as shit hack and slasher; and Dante's Inferno, judging by reviews, is shit.

Each one of those games, though, has more variety in the gameplay than CoD, Halo and Battlefield combined.

No, the guy who quoted me did ....

Huge boss battles? Like the one at the end of Bayonetta?

Massive combos? Like in God of war? (952 combo)

Hard as shit hack and slasher? You mean like ninja gaiden? The one I left out.

Either way, there is more difference between the three shooters than them 6 are combined.

Having played CoD, Battlefield and Halo I can confirm that, especially in the former two, there is little to no difference in how they play. Halo isn't much different, it's just a lot more clunky, and the enemies are slightly more colourful; but it's still the same procession of skirmishes and dodgy vehicle sections we've grown used to this generation.

On the other hand, all the hack and slashers mentioned handle differently, have different visual styles and only a few recurring themes (weapon sets, magic attacks etc.) and I only actually like two of them. The control-mapping is pretty similar but that's because it's the established set-up for hack-and-slashers; not everyone has time to spend three or four hours mastering a completely new layout with every new game they play.

At the end of the day though, surely only a fool would try to claim that there's more variety, both thematically and in terms of gameplay, between two games where you are part of a military unit trying to battle some foreign insurgency than games where you play as a horseman of the apocalypse/poledancing-witch/demon-human hybrid, doing anything from systematically wiping out the gods of Olympus to beating the shit out of Death on your way to the top of a hell-tower to fight your evil twin.

 

[Redd the Sock]

I'll probaly do what I did will all those PSP exclusives I missed out on: wait a while for the system price to come down, then buy it cheaply at a time when all the games I want are available for $10 each. Paitnce people. This isn't the next chapter in something deeply story based like Metal Gear or Mass Effect. It's Devil May Cry with tits.

 

[Brendan Stepladder]

It's so cute when Nintendo thinks it can publish non-Zelda games and have them still be good. Do whatever you want, Nintendo, I still won't take your new platforms seriously.

 

[Tony2077]

hmm i've been thinking and i'm starting to wonder if it'll even do well on a nintendo system given what kind of game it is

 

[DaWaffledude]

Huh. Didn't see that coming. an only mean good things for the Wii U though.

 

[omega 616]

Having played CoD, Battlefield and Halo I can confirm that, especially in the former two, there is little to no difference in how they play. Halo isn't much different, it's just a lot more clunky, and the enemies are slightly more colourful; but it's still the same procession of skirmishes and dodgy vehicle sections we've grown used to this generation.

On the other hand, all the hack and slashers mentioned handle differently, have different visual styles and only a few recurring themes (weapon sets, magic attacks etc.) and I only actually like two of them. The control-mapping is pretty similar but that's because it's the established set-up for hack-and-slashers; not everyone has time to spend three or four hours mastering a completely new layout with every new game they play.

At the end of the day though, surely only a fool would try to claim that there's more variety, both thematically and in terms of gameplay, between two games where you are part of a military unit trying to battle some foreign insurgency than games where you play as a horseman of the apocalypse/poledancing-witch/demon-human hybrid, doing anything from systematically wiping out the gods of Olympus to beating the shit out of Death on your way to the top of a hell-tower to fight your evil twin.

Halo has you using weapons that don't even exist, using a needler is a lot different than an AK47. You have to let the bullets explode while the enemies bullets do instant damage. That is just 1 example.

Cod is different to BF 'cos 1 game has almost 0 recoil in there guns, 0 bullet drop, 0 reason to play as a team and 0 supression ... the other is exactly the opposite.

Please, list how different the 6 I mentioned are 'cos so far all you and the other 2 have said in your posts is "they are different". I am not even saying shooters are the best examples to be giving, somebody else brought up shooters.

To me hack and slash games are like Fifa and PES or Madden and NCAA ... sure the names are different on each of the people but in the end you're putting a ball in the goal/end zone.

I have played DMC, GOW, ninja gaiden and the demo to Bayonetta but they all feel the same. There is fuck all differences, you could reskin DMC's Dante with GOW's Kratos with all of Kratos's weapons and magic and the game would play exactly the same.

Can they all float while attacking? Yes. Do range weapons do fuck all? Yes. Do they all have bosses all bigger than buildings? Yes. Do they all have super powers? Yes. All the people are interchangeable.

Now imagine putting a soldier in Halo, he wouldn't last 1 second. Halo soldier in COD, juggernaught suit. Halo soldier in BF, he is the only guy with a shield and plasma nades (not to mention things like armor lock)

As for the control schemes, why bring them up? Of course they are the same ... Nobody argued differently.