Being Asexual In A Sexual Society

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Nickolai77

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Unless it's a medical condition, i wouldn't compare asexuality to any of the other sexualities. Bi, Hetro or Homosexuality are biological and the person in question doesn't have much choice as to what group they fit into. By the sounds of things, asexuality for most is a lifestyle choice were you simply don't bother with sex and relationships, but i feel most would be lying to themselves if they say they are not interested in the opposite sex at all.

That's why i don't call myself asexual, because i carn't honestly deny that i am interested in the opposite sex. Really, i think most "asexuals" choose not to follow up on sex or relationships. It's a lifestyle choice, and i don't think "asexual" is the right term to use here.

Hell, i sometimes wish i could be asexual, intermittently, in the true sense. It would be nice not to have those feelings of vainly wanting someone, loneliness and crushing self-doubt. People who call themselves asexual thus have my sympathies, it would be great just to throw yourself out of a game that your not very good at. Nobody likes to play a sport they're crap at.

So, you can choose to be "asexual" and not follow relationships or sex, but asexuality itself is a bit of an inaccurate term. No matter how crap you are at the game, you still have that primeval urge to play. You can't deny that.
 

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Well I did not know that Asexuality was a sexuality, I thought asexual means when only reproduction without intercourse ... ohh thats asexual reproduction *facepalm*

Well you learn something new every day

Seems fairly normal to me, your not attracted to either then yeah go for it ?
 

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I've been meaning to write a serious discussion here for some time, and now this is the topic I've chosen.
If you don't know what Asexuality is then Cambridge Dictionaries defines it as "having no interest in sexual relationships" which pretty much sums it up in my own experience.

This post is about me, being asexual in a world/society which seems to be overly sexualised these days. Just to be clear, i'm heterosexual, but I'm also asexual which means that I like women, I can find them attractive, both in personality and in physical form but I do not want to sleep with any woman (and before people say it, no i'm not gay so don't even bother suggesting that I like men).

Anyway I find it hard sometimes when sex is all around us, being pushed in our faces and down our throats and it's even worse when teenagers feel the need to have sex way before they may be physically and emotionally ready, purely just to 'fit in' with the others.
I find it hard because I don't want to do any of this so called 'social norm' and don't actively chase anybody anymore (I used to, but since I have discovered that I am asexual I do not bother anymore) or I don't try to hit on women in bars or clubs.

My friends purely think that I've given up, but I do not wish to tell them that I am asexual, mainly because I do not know anyone else with asexuality as their sexual preference and so they may find it weird that I am.

I don't see my lifestyle as a problem, on the contrary I think it's a blessing. I love being single, purely due to the large amount of money I have free to do what I want with, whereas my friends who are either married (both with and without kids) or those in a relationship (again both with and without kids) always seem to have very little free money floating around.

Above may seem a shallow view, but it is in my experience true; those with marital or relationship commitments a) do not seem to be as long term happy with a partner and b) are always living on the borderline money-wise.

What are your views, oh dear Escapists? Are any of you asexual? do you know anybody who is? or do you want to argue anything I've said here? Post a reply below
I find your post intriguing. I have entertained similar thoughts and would like to share my conclusion, perhaps it may be of use to you.

I?ve had 1 sexual relationship, at the age of 15, it lasted for less than a year, and was the result of ?meeting a chick while drunk at a house party?, it was totally random.
The relationship was of great use to me emotionally, and in spending so much time with one person I came to the realization of the inadequacies of my communication skills. I had to constantly apologize and explain myself, which was a frustrating exercise, as clearly my actions did not reflect my intent. It was like learning to walk, first you must crawl.
Sex in this relationship was new and exciting, it was new to both of us, and it was a celebration for each of us for finding someone that felt so ?right?. We were great together, intellectually stimulating, creatively stimulating, we had so much in common yet were so different. It was a valuable experience.
Eventually sex became a mechanical hunger, an ?IF x THEN y? situation. The relationship collapsed very soon after this, as communication about the proverbial elephant in the room was nonexistent.

This experience hurt me, and has taught me to distrust sex. I never want to go through that mechanical empty sex ever again, the memory has been soul destroying.
This girlfriend is now my most trusted friend. We have a relationship that is clearly non-sexual, and have been friends for the past 5 years.
During this time she has gone through many relationships that have each failed, and I have had no relationships. During each of her relationships I would back away to give her space, and to hide away from feelings such as jealousy and regret. I aim to change this for the next cycle, instead taking an active roll to make sure she does not suffer from the same mistakes again, but I digress.

If, somewhere down the line, we were to get physically close again (If that ?territory? was seen as safe). I would be fearful, I would be afraid of sex. Sex is something that scarred me, so naturally I would want to avoid it. But I know something now that I didn?t know then. I KNOW HER. I have known her for more than 5 years, and she has known me. If we reached a situation that could potentially turn sexual, she would see my reservation, my shyness. And I would be able to say what was on my mind. She would hear me out.

So I find myself asexual, in that I do not entertain serious thoughts of sex, I do not seek a sexual partner, and any relationship that would form between myself and anyone else would be instantly labelled as ?friend?, nothing more, nothing less. It is a simplistic view aided by my quiet introspective nature (some would say I?m not very approachable, I?d say I?m reserved).
It?s worked so far, and I hope that someday in the future I can sit down and share my thoughts and feelings with someone as an equal, treated as a damaged individual rather than a lost boy.

Although I would say that I am currently asexual, once the barrier of fear is confronted I will be ready for a sexual relationship. But in both cases (in a sexual relationship and outside asexually) I approach sex the same, cautiously and with purpose.

TLDR; I'm asexual from fear. Remove fear and I'm back to a regular, considerate, sensitive, if somewhat timid human being. Sex isn't a drive for me, I see it as result of something much greater - a strong relationship.
 

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I believe what was said earlier practically describes my feelings about sexuality.

Dango said:
I'm not necessarily aesexual, but I don't really care or think much about sex.
 

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Su.zaku said:
Danzaivar said:
Novskij said:
If you find a woman/man attrative in any way, then your not asexual.
My thoughts exactly. Sounds like you're just more shy than you are horny, OP.
I think what the OP was meaning, was that he found people aesthetically attractive, but does not have the desire to have sex with them. Its like thinking that someone is beautiful, but that does not necessarily mean that that view of beauty stems from sexual attraction. Aesthetic and Sexual attraction hold different meanings.
You're exactly right there, I do find people beautiful it's a natural thing in the world, but yes I don't feel the need or the urge to go out and have sex with them. I always equate my argument to 'a hetero man can find another man (usually a celebrity) attractive, yet that does not mean the hetero man wishes to have sex with that man, the same for a straight woman finding another woman attractive.' Beauty is out there, we can't deny it and sometimes beauty is inherent within people.

Kurokami said:
Riku said:
I've been meaning to write a serious discussion here for some time, and now this is the topic I've chosen.
If you don't know what Asexuality is then Cambridge Dictionaries defines it as "having no interest in sexual relationships" which pretty much sums it up in my own experience.

This post is about me, being asexual in a world/society which seems to be overly sexualised these days. Just to be clear, i'm heterosexual, but I'm also asexual which means that I like women, I can find them attractive, both in personality and in physical form but I do not want to sleep with any woman (and before people say it, no i'm not gay so don't even bother suggesting that I like men).
You seem very determined to stress out that you don't like men.
Well I know what a lot of people would say (and so far a few have done on this topic) and that would be to suggest that because I don't like women I must be gay.
I can accurately say I don't like men, why? Because I have tried it. Hell when I knew I didn't like women sexually I tried being with a guy and the same effect happened; I didn't feel the need or the urge to sleep with a man either.

IBlackKiteI said:
Riku said:
I don't see my lifestyle as a problem, on the contrary I think it's a blessing. I love being single, purely due to the large amount of money I have free to do what I want with, whereas my friends who are either married (both with and without kids) or those in a relationship (again both with and without kids) always seem to have very little free money floating around.

Above may seem a shallow view, but it is in my experience true; those with marital or relationship commitments a) do not seem to be as long term happy with a partner and b) are always living on the borderline money-wise.
I had a realisation the other day that we, or I, just dont feel like I need people in a compassionate or sexual way that much, in other words I feel anything in a relationship aside from friendship is useless.

All relationships are created out of the promise of sex, I think theres no dening it, it feels like people get in relationships just to well...screw, basically and there is often never real and true emotion, like people pretend to care just to get into the others pants.

Imagine if humans had practically no sex drive, there would be significantly less intimate relationships, and I think these ones that now exist without the promise of sex in the way would be beautiful.

Its hard to explain I guess, maybe Im just cynical or maybe its because my own experience of love has been very, very bad.
You are very true there friend, especially your line about "All relationships are created out of the promise of sex" I would agree, especially in this day and age I have seen a lot of my friends enter into relationships mainly to get laid, and then build up some small feeling after.
A prime example of this is that one of my guy friends was sleeping with two women at the same time, one of them found out and ended it with him and because he didnt want to lose the other girl for sex he asked her out, and then preceeded to act all lovingly towards her (very rapidly I might add) purely because he didn't want to lose her for her sexual prowess.

Hashime said:
Riku said:
I've been meaning to write a serious discussion here for some time, and now this is the topic I've chosen.
If you don't know what Asexuality is then Cambridge Dictionaries defines it as "having no interest in sexual relationships" which pretty much sums it up in my own experience.

This post is about me, being asexual in a world/society which seems to be overly sexualised these days. Just to be clear, i'm heterosexual, but I'm also asexual which means that I like women, I can find them attractive, both in personality and in physical form but I do not want to sleep with any woman (and before people say it, no i'm not gay so don't even bother suggesting that I like men).

Anyway I find it hard sometimes when sex is all around us, being pushed in our faces and down our throats and it's even worse when teenagers feel the need to have sex way before they may be physically and emotionally ready, purely just to 'fit in' with the others.
I find it hard because I don't want to do any of this so called 'social norm' and don't actively chase anybody anymore (I used to, but since I have discovered that I am asexual I do not bother anymore) or I don't try to hit on women in bars or clubs.

My friends purely think that I've given up, but I do not wish to tell them that I am asexual, mainly because I do not know anyone else with asexuality as their sexual preference and so they may find it weird that I am.

I don't see my lifestyle as a problem, on the contrary I think it's a blessing. I love being single, purely due to the large amount of money I have free to do what I want with, whereas my friends who are either married (both with and without kids) or those in a relationship (again both with and without kids) always seem to have very little free money floating around.

Above may seem a shallow view, but it is in my experience true; those with marital or relationship commitments a) do not seem to be as long term happy with a partner and b) are always living on the borderline money-wise.

What are your views, oh dear Escapists? Are any of you asexual? do you know anybody who is? or do you want to argue anything I've said here? Post a reply below
Yes, I would consider myself asexual as well. I have accepted the reality that that is how I will be the rest of my life, and am okay with it, but due to symptoms of depression and a personality disorder (Schizoid) I may also just be in a temporary phase.
I suggest you look up both, because when I read the article on the personality disorder many of my views, thought and behaviors made sense, though depression also explains the symptoms.
Thankyou, I will look up both of those and have a look and see if they are similar to what I am feeling. I don't like to label people with certain things but I will give them a read, thankyou.

MagnificentFiend said:
Riku said:
Just to be clear, i'm heterosexual, but I'm also asexual which means that I like women, I can find them attractive, both in personality and in physical form but I do not want to sleep with any woman.
I don't think you are asexual. I think it's incorrect to consider sleeping with someone - that is, penetrative sex - the primary criterion of a "sexual relationship" since there's 'less' you can do that still falls well within the purview of sexuality. I'm not sure why the Cambridge definition said "sexual relationships"; really it should be "sexual activity".

While it's undoubtedly true that not all (or even most) attraction is sexual (and I admit it's impossible to draw a hard-and-fast line between the two) "physical" attraction as you put it sounds contrary to asexuality to me, depending on what you (don't) have desire to do. I suppose one could be able only to love one gender as a husband/wife but not be sexually attracted to them and thus be 'hetero-asexual', or both and be 'bi-asexual'.

Interested to hear you thoughts.
I'm sorry I really should have clarified.
This sums it up

Su.zaku said:
I think what the OP was meaning, was that he found people aesthetically attractive, but does not have the desire to have sex with them. Its like thinking that someone is beautiful, but that does not necessarily mean that that view of beauty stems from sexual attraction. Aesthetic and Sexual attraction hold different meanings.
 

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Riku said:
those with marital or relationship commitments do not seem to be as long term happy with a partner
While this is sometimes the case, I've rarely seen it. Most people I've seen in relationships have been happier than they were before. Most people who aren't break up with the other, if they're reasonable. That breaking up option is handy you know.

As for me, the last 4 years I've been going out with my girlfriend have been the happiest in my life, so there's some more anecdotal evidence to counter yours.
 

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Riku said:
Kurokami said:
Riku said:
I've been meaning to write a serious discussion here for some time, and now this is the topic I've chosen.
If you don't know what Asexuality is then Cambridge Dictionaries defines it as "having no interest in sexual relationships" which pretty much sums it up in my own experience.

This post is about me, being asexual in a world/society which seems to be overly sexualised these days. Just to be clear, i'm heterosexual, but I'm also asexual which means that I like women, I can find them attractive, both in personality and in physical form but I do not want to sleep with any woman (and before people say it, no i'm not gay so don't even bother suggesting that I like men).
You seem very determined to stress out that you don't like men.
Well I know what a lot of people would say (and so far a few have done on this topic) and that would be to suggest that because I don't like women I must be gay.
I can accurately say I don't like men, why? Because I have tried it. Hell when I knew I didn't like women sexually I tried being with a guy and the same effect happened; I didn't feel the need or the urge to sleep with a man either.
I see, sorry for questioning your intentions.
 

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What ever floats ya boat really.

Me I'm a straight male, who prefers companionship over sex. Doesn't mean I'm against it but you know I'm just not all that fussed.

Building a relatinship with another purely around sex is not health to me.
 

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im 15 and still a virgin but i believe im asexual i have no interest in either sex or any sexual things
 

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Asexuallity is something I don't know too much about, but I do think it's thrown around quite casually especially around this site.

From what I've always gatherd is that if you're asexual you're disgusted by sex or any type of sexual conduct. Yet it seems like a lot of people here are asexual simply because sex and the image around it being too much of a bother.

I'm not saying that's the case with you and maybe I'm talking shit, but I'm getting this strange vibe around here as if asexuallity is the new hip thing to be.
 

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jamesworkshop said:
Being a social inept virgin doesn't make you Asexual


I'm not asexual
And the award for "Truest statement of the day" goes to jamesworkshop!

Pile of cookies for you!
Wow thats like the third person to be impressed by nobody wanting to date me
 

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You ever see that show School Days? I'm afraid I would turn out to be a heartless sex-fiend like the main character of that series if I don't wait for "the one." So this life-choice of yours is really mature, and you shouldn't take on those who say otherwise.
 

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I'm not asexual, but I can understand your point, and I have to agree that I do see it coming out more and more in society. It's as if the next generation is becoming more and more juvenile, but this isn't the kind of answer you're looking for.

If you're not interested in sex, then that's your choice. (or is it? I don't know much about asexuality, it could be like homosexuality in the sense that one does not choose it). No one should be able to pressure you into it, and it seems like you're pretty happy with the way your living your life, so why does it bother you? I wouldn't worry about it too much if that's the case.

I personally love the comfort of my girlfriend and I feel like it brings my entire life to a whole new level, especially when I'm feeling the harder times, but at the same time, that's a comfort that any good friend can provide. (not to say my girlfriend isn't a good friend)

I know this is a bad assumption on my part, but if you're keeping yourself out of a relationship just because of sex, then you're looking at it the wrong way. Relationships are more than that. My girlfriend and I were good friends for nearly 2 or 3 years before we started dating. It's like having a best friend you can have sex with (when we both want to of course, she's not an object), but again if that's not what you're looking for, then by all means stay your course, because it looks like you're livin' it up right there. More power to you buddy!
 

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I'm seeing more and more topics like this spring up on this site. From what I remember from my psychology class, which was on human sexual behavior, less than 2% of the population is asexual.

This leads me to wonder how many people claiming asexuality are truly asexual (nonsexual is another term for the same thing). If I offended anyone who truly have no desire or interest in sex I apologize. Its just from an outsider's perspective it looks like asexuality is becoming trendy.

Either way, it's your business what you're into and only you can define your sexuality.

tl:dr < 2% of population is asexual, some people who claim to be might not be asexual but that's your own damn business.
 

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Antitonic said:
Well, quoting the same source, there are gay asexuals, and straight asexuals. They're asexual by virtue of not feeling the need to "do" anything, but have orientations as to who they seek non-sexual relationships with.

Personally, if I were to ever have a relationship that would be considered "more" than friendship to outsiders, it would probably be with a woman. From my point of view, it would be a regular friendship. Admittedly, that's a long shot, and a hypothetical to boot. The idea of sex repulses me, and I'm not a fan of hugging or kissing.

But that's the thing. I love opinions, don't you?
Gay and straight asexuals? Heterosexual asexuals and homosexual asexuals? That seems paradoxical to me.
And again, one could say it's just about supressed urges (for whatever reason), not complete and utter disinterest.
You see, it's just way too blurry. THat's why I, personally, define asexuality as having no interest in any kind of relationship that goes beyond friendship at all. You think otherwise and that's fine with me. And yes, opinions are great.
 

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It's like this, sex drives do vary from person to person. You have extremes like nymphomaniacs on one end, and people with next to no sex drive on the other.

On the other hand, like Thyroid conditions (I'm fat because of one! Not because of what I do!) these extremes are very rare, though a lot of people claim to have them as an excuse. A lot of nerds, rejects, and physical degenerates (ultra fatties, greaseballs, etc...) will CLAIM to be asexual largely because it feels empowering for them to claim they can't have sex because they don't want to, rather than nobody wanting to have sex with them. On the other extreme those claiming to be Nymphos or the male equivilent are oftentimes people who feel the need to justify a complete lack of sexual morals, or suffer from other conditions like depression where they use sex as a substitution for the love they feel their not actually getting. My point here is not to write a medical treatise however.


In the end if you are genuinely asexual as opposed to simply a society-wide reject, then just like a nymphomaniac you have a problem and should probably seek help. Like it or not such things can oftentimes be the sign of other problems, both psychological, or purely physical if the chemicals in your system aren't working. I'm hardly an expert but I remember hearing about the case of one dude who had the whole asexual thing, and then later found out that he had testicular cancer, albiet on a fairly small (microscopic) and hard to notice level. When it got aggressive the whole thing was figured out. The bottom line is that if you find yourself having no real interest in sex or any kind of drive, especially if your young, you should probably tell a doctor and have it checked out.


I won't comment on some of the side topics here since it would de-rail the thread. A lot of escapist regulars know my thoughts on a lot of that already. :)
 

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Riku said:
It's ok I understand exactly what you meant.
I'm 21, which I know isn't really old enough to comment on massively deep topics, but I've seen and done enough in my short life to know what I want/don't want by now.

I have been in love yes, and proper love (not just a crush) I have tried to go out with girls without the need for a sexual relationship, and although love and affection are good emotions which I wouldn't want to deny anybody I think that at the end of the day I see the faults in people from the start, and I believe that if you want to find someone who you want to spend your life with then you should start off believing that they are perfect - I just can't seem to do that.

It's never come that far with my relationships (being the age that I am, in my previous relationships sex didn't come about so quickly) but all I can do is guess that I would just say to them that I didn't feel the need to have sex with them (which I can see that not going down too well somehow heh)
You can love someone, without needing to have sex with them, first off. And it doesn't involve believing someone is "perfect". Actual love involves someone acknowledging and accepting a person as a whole, not just for the shiny bits that they think are great. This isn't to say there wouldnt be some issues that arise in the relationship or anything, its just loving someone for who they are, warts and all.
 

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I'm not asexual, but I dont like the idea doing it as often as the media suggests that we do. And it should be a person you really like, or else it gets meaningless. if you dont like anyone - then thats a problem.