Ben Affleck will be the New Batman in Man of Steel sequel: Why the hate?

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http://angryjoeshow.com/2013/08/ben-affleck-is-batman/

Yep, right now I just saw a video of Angry Joe telling his opinion for the new Batman in the Man of Steel sequel. He is a little bit angry I must say.

But.............something similar happened in an old movie.....ah yeah:



Even Angry Joe Acknowledge that and he will wait to see more before make his final opinion.
Everything is possible. Even most of the people think that Ben Afleck is a bad choice.

If the director of the film do a fine job, then I don't have a problem with that.
 

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If people had waited until a trailer came out, they wouldn't look so stupid with their complaining.

Now they just look like they're refusing to eat a food which they say they don't like, despite never even trying it.

I'm staying hopeful, I can't see them making such a mess of modern Batman.
 

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I'd say it's rather unfair to compare the hate for Ben Affleck playing Batman to the hate for Heath Ledger playing Joker.

Heath Ledger had never had that kind of role before, so it was rather unfair of everyone to jump all over him before seeing him in action.

Ben Affleck on the other hand has had similar role before. Ever watch Daredevil? He pretty much phoned in the entire performance, and it was bad. He had absolutely no presence in the movie.

So I'd say that people's grips with the casting of Ben Affleck are at least somewhat legitimate. Of course it will really depend on the director whether he can get a good performance out of him, and we really should wait to see some footage, but as of right now I still think that there were numerous better choices than him.
 

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Dirty Hipsters said:
I'd say it's rather unfair to compare the hate for Ben Affleck playing Batman to the hate for Heath Ledger playing Joker.

Heath Ledger had never had that kind of role before, so it was rather unfair of everyone to jump all over him before seeing him in action.

Ben Affleck on the other hand has had similar role before. Ever watch Daredevil? He pretty much phoned in the entire performance, and it was bad. He had absolutely no presence in the movie.

So I'd say that people's grips with the casting of Ben Affleck are at least somewhat legitimate. Of course it will really depend on the director whether he can get a good performance out of him, and we really should wait to see some footage, but as of right now I still think that there were numerous better choices than him.
......I liked Ben Afleck as DareDevil. Sure not a great film, but I liked it, especially Bulleye.
Why Ben Afleck wasn't a good choice for DareDevil?
 

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Ben Affleck is just kind of a bland dude who's never had any memorable or stand-out performances. And for the role of Batman, you need to have a certain screen presence.

The difference with Ledger is that he already proved he could act fairly well in movies like Brokeback Mountain.

Not that I care if Ben Affleck is playing Batman in Man of Steel 2, because that movie had 'bad idea' written all over it from the get-go.
 

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People hate change. There are a huge amount of people who can't see anyone but Bale as Batman now, and they would have complained no matter who was cast.
 

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I'm reserving my judgement until after i see the movie.


That is all.
And i never hated Ben Affleck, Daredevil wasn't that bad. It was meh, though.
 

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I've said it before, and I'll say it again. As long as he doesn't do the Christian Bale raspy voice, I think I'll live with his performance.
 

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IMHO, Batman is a boring character anyway. It's the rest of the Bat family that's interesting, Batman is just there to be grumpy at them.
 

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Dirty Hipsters said:
Absolutely agree. I'm all for giving actors a shot and not judging something before I've seen it, but in my opinion, if Affleck couldn't be bothered to do his best for a smaller superhero, why should he be given the chance to play one of the biggest? I mean you could argue that he isn't the sole reason that Daredevil was bad, but great actor performances and bad movies aren't mutually exclusive.

Also, while I will say that a fair amount of the negative reaction to Affleck has been to the tune of 'Bale + Nolan 4eva', personally, I don't think that that's the overriding issue for the majority. Like a lot of people, I love the Nolan Batman films. I think the Dark Knight is a masterpiece. But for me, the issue isn't that Bale won't be back in the role, it isn't that he and Nolan won't be endlessly churning out an infinite supply of Dark Knight rehashes, and it isn't the change that is the problem. I'm very open to seeing a new interpretation of the Batman mythos. But whenever doing an adaptation, you have to respect the audience. I heard Josh Brolin was one of the actors considered for the role (image link below).

http://aggressivecomix.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/josh_brolin_as_batman_by_poumap-d60nl1w.jpg

I thought that would be a really good choice, just because even from a still image, you could see the potential for the 'unhinged sociopath hard-ass' kind of angle that could put an interesting spin on Batman's character that we haven't necessarily explored in great depth in the movies before. But letting Affleck, someone who's already had a chance to be a superhero, be Batman? It feels a lot like I'm letting my unreliable, clumsy, reckless pyromaniac friend borrow my favourite book. Obviously I can't speak for everyone, but I think that's where a lot of the anger is coming from from the more reasonable side of the argument.
 

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Yeah screw it y'know what, I'm going to be THAT guy. I'm pretty peeved at Affleck being Batman, but c'mon, Bale was pretty crummy in the role too. Bruce Wayne had absolutely zero charisma, Batman had that ridiculous voice, and he felt completely out of place in all three of his own movies. I enjoyed Nolans movies, but I don't watch them again, because every time I do, they fall further and further apart as Batman movies.

But fuck it, they couldn't have picked anyone else? WHY Ben Affleck?
 

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Casual Shinji said:
Ben Affleck is just kind of a bland dude who's never had any memorable or stand-out performances. And for the role of Batman, you need to have a certain screen presence.

The difference with Ledger is that he already proved he could act fairly well in movies like Brokeback Mountain.

Not that I care if Ben Affleck is playing Batman in Man of Steel 2, because that movie had 'bad idea' written all over it from the get-go.
What stand out roles did bale have before dark knight? Apart from american psycho and possibly shaft (in which his character was basically bruce wayne anyway)
 

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shootthebandit said:
Casual Shinji said:
Ben Affleck is just kind of a bland dude who's never had any memorable or stand-out performances. And for the role of Batman, you need to have a certain screen presence.

The difference with Ledger is that he already proved he could act fairly well in movies like Brokeback Mountain.

Not that I care if Ben Affleck is playing Batman in Man of Steel 2, because that movie had 'bad idea' written all over it from the get-go.
What stand out roles did bale have before dark knight? Apart from american psycho and possibly shaft (in which his character was basically bruce wayne anyway)
The Machinist.

To be fair, he already had the Batman role while filming the movie (Which just shows you how absolutely terrible his agent is, considering both movies together nearly killed him). Excellent movie, though.

Admittedly small potatoes though.
 

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AccursedTheory said:
shootthebandit said:
Casual Shinji said:
Ben Affleck is just kind of a bland dude who's never had any memorable or stand-out performances. And for the role of Batman, you need to have a certain screen presence.

The difference with Ledger is that he already proved he could act fairly well in movies like Brokeback Mountain.

Not that I care if Ben Affleck is playing Batman in Man of Steel 2, because that movie had 'bad idea' written all over it from the get-go.
What stand out roles did bale have before dark knight? Apart from american psycho and possibly shaft (in which his character was basically bruce wayne anyway)
The Machinist.

To be fair, he already had the Batman role while filming the movie (Which just shows you how absolutely terrible his agent is, considering both movies together nearly killed him). Excellent movie, though.

Admittedly small potatoes though.
I was actually gonna say public enemies but had to IMDB it and it turns out it was post dark knight. Even then he was massively overshadowed by depp (but then again pretty much everyone is).

Affleck has had some good roles. Dogma, good will hunting (although over shadowed by damon and williams) and a few more i cant think of

Im looking at this optimistically and i think affleck playing batman isnt the most worrying think about a batman superman tie in
 

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Since when was Batman an interesting character? He's a cardboard cutout that punches things and grumbles at people.

Batman has ALWAYS been about the villains.

I think Ben Affleck is perfect for the role. He's got the build, the chin and the voice.

And again... stupid people are passing judgement before it's even out.
 

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Abomination said:
Since when was Batman an interesting character? He's a cardboard cutout that punches things and grumbles at people.

Batman has ALWAYS been about the villains.

I think Ben Affleck is perfect for the role. He's got the build, the chin and the voice.

And again... stupid people are passing judgement before it's even out.
Be that as it may, we've already seen him do Daredevil, and he seriously phoned it in on that. If people don't like him, and have seen movies with him in, is that not enough to at least garner a pre emptive opinion on the matter? Even if Batman can come across as a little one dimensional at times, he still needs to give a certain presence. But then I don't think Bale had that presence either, if he couldn't pull it off with Daredevil, how can we be sure he'll pull it off with Batman?

I trust Snyder to deliver a good film, but I still have my doubts about Afleck.
 

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EeveeElectro said:
If people had waited until a trailer came out, they wouldn't look so stupid with their complaining.

Now they just look like they're refusing to eat a food which they say they don't like, despite never even trying it.

I'm staying hopeful, I can't see them making such a mess of modern Batman.
Hmmm shitty director who directs shitty movies, shitty actor who often acts in the shitty ass shit movies he directs, daredevil. I wonder why people are pissed!
 

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shootthebandit said:
Casual Shinji said:
Ben Affleck is just kind of a bland dude who's never had any memorable or stand-out performances. And for the role of Batman, you need to have a certain screen presence.

The difference with Ledger is that he already proved he could act fairly well in movies like Brokeback Mountain.

Not that I care if Ben Affleck is playing Batman in Man of Steel 2, because that movie had 'bad idea' written all over it from the get-go.
What stand out roles did bale have before dark knight? Apart from american psycho and possibly shaft (in which his character was basically bruce wayne anyway)
HELLO! "Harsh Times" is Bale's best role BY FAR, it's such a shame nobody saw this one. If you can handle an emotional rollercoaster, this movie will shatter your perceptions of ptsd and the veterans, killing machines america produces in the middle east. Greatest movie on the psyche of soldiers coming home and dealing with the urge to murder.
 

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AccursedTheory said:
shootthebandit said:
Casual Shinji said:
Ben Affleck is just kind of a bland dude who's never had any memorable or stand-out performances. And for the role of Batman, you need to have a certain screen presence.

The difference with Ledger is that he already proved he could act fairly well in movies like Brokeback Mountain.

Not that I care if Ben Affleck is playing Batman in Man of Steel 2, because that movie had 'bad idea' written all over it from the get-go.
What stand out roles did bale have before dark knight? Apart from american psycho and possibly shaft (in which his character was basically bruce wayne anyway)
The Machinist.

To be fair, he already had the Batman role while filming the movie (Which just shows you how absolutely terrible his agent is, considering both movies together nearly killed him). Excellent movie, though.

Admittedly small potatoes though.
The machinist is worth watching, but only once. Don't see it again.

Harsh Times however is a movie to be dissected with repeated viewings. I've never been affected by a movie as much as by this one.