Biden clenches the nomination.

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crimson5pheonix

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The reason it feels like Bernie got nothing is because Biden stands against just about everything Bernie does.
Bernie says universal healthcare, Biden says no,
Bernie says the 1% should pay more taxes, Biden says no.
Bernie says end the war on drugs and the wars in the Middle East, Biden says no.
Bernie wants to cancel student debt, Biden says no.
Bernie wants to legalize pot, Biden says no.
Bernie wants to end Citizens United, Biden says no.

The only things I can find they agree on are abortion rights and gun control, and that's shit every Democrat is already onboard for. So Bernie gave up his supporters to Biden on the carrot that Biden will give them 2 things he was already going to give them.

and that's not even counting Biden's sketchy past as a democrat in name only and the assault allegations.
Like I said, I know and agree. I just don't think Bernie is saying he's giving up his ideals and that it was never about that.
 

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Like I said, I know and agree. I just don't think Bernie is saying he's giving up his ideals and that it was never about that.
As I said, it's about not being blamed for the Dems' failures for another 4 years.
 

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As I said, it's about not being blamed for the Dems' failures for another 4 years.
Which lets be honest he will be. He'll still be blamed for having ideas, wanting a better world, not assaulting women, being able to speak, and his distinct ability to beat Trump. He set the bar to high for a political candidate, what with his political ideas and all. How dare Bernie actually try! He should be more like Ol' Joe and swagger around with his pants down waiting for the nurse to give him a tug-job and give him some vanilla pudding while quoting the Andy Griffith thinking he actually did those things.
 

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As I said, it's about not being blamed for the Dems' failures for another 4 years.
I'm pretty sure Bernie endorsed HIllary last time around, so he's basically doing what he did last time. Whether he cares about being blamed for it or not, I'm not sure. He just knows that even Biden will be better than Trump. And that's not saying a whole lot, but I still don't think I'd respect Bernie anymore if he took the "fuck all y'all, I'm taking my ball home with me" stance. Aside from refusing to take a stance, since it's not like there's any viable third-party candidates that fit Bernie's profile, so it's not like he has any "good" options anyway.
 

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COVID-19 has made Trump look like an absolute ass, and so I don't think he will be re-elected after all.
Any one that votes for this ***** in a box stand after all this over, clearly could not give a f@ck about the fate of the country or the world at large, and only care about screwing minorities over, getting money (they most likely won't get), and are just too dumb/spiteful to live. But mostly dumb. If things keep getting worse or better, and y'all dumbasses still vote for him, history will show you for all the foolishness you displayed with your beloved buffoon. I don't wanna hear "We had no choice!", "It sounded like a good idea at the time." or "It was us or them!" Whoever "them" is. All I have to say is:


Can we get Sima Yi for president at this point?

But I am seeing far too many liberal feminists and "moderate" Americans dismiss Tara Reade's confession or bury their heads in the sand and act like nothing's happening. Whatever happened to #MeToo and #IBelieveHer? Such grand hypocrisy. It sickens me to the very core. The audacity too, of having witnessed Biden supporters call her a Russian plant. These people single-handedly betrayed every single rape victim whose voice gets silenced or stigmatized as a liar. For Joe goddamn Biden.
I did know not about the rape allegations? Regardless if he did it or not, you just don't blow off victims like that or for convenience! For his sake, I hope did not do it. But if he did, I would be beyond upset and dissapointed in him, feminists, and the democratic party that tried covering it up or blowing it off. Definitely does make any of you look good nor better than the other side.
 

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Like, morally Bernie *had* to endorse Biden. The DNC fucked him over but if he didn't make the effort to get his base to vote for their candidate, it would only help the Republicans. If the GOP win they'll probably be able to pack the supreme court with conservatives and overturn Roe vs Wade, and then have a go at oppressing LGBT+ people and maybe some ethnic minorities.
 

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I'm pretty sure Bernie endorsed HIllary last time around, so he's basically doing what he did last time. Whether he cares about being blamed for it or not, I'm not sure. He just knows that even Biden will be better than Trump. And that's not saying a whole lot, but I still don't think I'd respect Bernie anymore if he took the "fuck all y'all, I'm taking my ball home with me" stance. Aside from refusing to take a stance, since it's not like there's any viable third-party candidates that fit Bernie's profile, so it's not like he has any "good" options anyway.
I believe I recall an article claiming he cost her the election in 2016 for not supporting her quickly enough. I'd expect them to do something similar now too in the event Biden loses.
 

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I believe I recall an article claiming he cost her the election in 2016 for not supporting her quickly enough. I'd expect them to do something similar now too in the event Biden loses.
Yeah, so basically those people are gonna give him shit no matter what, and likely will if/when Biden loses. Those are the groups you have nothing to gain from catering to in any case, as they do not really criticize in good faith, but rather use one criticism as camouflage for another.
 

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Like, morally Bernie *had* to endorse Biden. The DNC fucked him over but if he didn't make the effort to get his base to vote for their candidate, it would only help the Republicans. If the GOP win they'll probably be able to pack the supreme court with conservatives and overturn Roe vs Wade, and then have a go at oppressing LGBT+ people and maybe some ethnic minorities.
Yep, exactly why Biden is still getting my vote. I'm more concerned about regressing back to the 1980s than progressing forward at this time. Way too much is on the line for it this time.
 

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Yep, exactly why Biden is still getting my vote. I'm more concerned about regressing back to the 1980s than progressing forward at this time. Way too much is on the line for it this time.
But Biden is worse than the 1980s. The 80s were too progressive for Biden. He's a 60s man, and Trump is a 50s man. One is clearly better than the other, but don't think either are good.
 

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But Biden is worse than the 1980s. The 80s were too progressive for Biden. He's a 60s man, and Trump is a 50s man. One is clearly better than the other, but don't think either are good.
Not saying he's good at all. He's my very reluctant choice due to circumstances outside of my control. In this election, most likely won't for future elections, I will choose the lesser of two evils.
 

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Like, morally Bernie *had* to endorse Biden. The DNC fucked him over but if he didn't make the effort to get his base to vote for their candidate, it would only help the Republicans. If the GOP win they'll probably be able to pack the supreme court with conservatives and overturn Roe vs Wade, and then have a go at oppressing LGBT+ people and maybe some ethnic minorities.
See, this is what the Never Biden people don't understand.

We absolutely cannot allow a corporatist with allegations of sexual abuse to be president. Especially one who has said and done racist things in the past. It's not the moral option. Anyone who cares about ethics has to make the correct decision in the upcoming election.
 

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See, this is what the Never Biden people don't understand.

We absolutely cannot allow a corporatist with allegations of sexual abuse to be president. Especially one who has said and done racist things in the past. It's not the moral option. Anyone who cares about ethics has to make the correct decision in the upcoming election.
Okay which corporatist with allegations of sexual abuse and a racist past are you against? From my count there are 2 running in this election, neither of which can speak in complete sentences and both of which are senile cooks whose glory days are not only 30 years behind them, but were mostly made up retroactively
 

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Okay which corporatist with allegations of sexual abuse and a racist past are you against? From my count there are 2 running in this election, neither of which can speak in complete sentences and both of which are senile cooks whose glory days are not only 30 years behind them, but were mostly made up retroactively
I believe the point is that his answer would be "yes."
 

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Okay which corporatist with allegations of sexual abuse and a racist past are you against? From my count there are 2 running in this election, neither of which can speak in complete sentences and both of which are senile cooks whose glory days are not only 30 years behind them, but were mostly made up retroactively
Yes
 

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Okay which corporatist with allegations of sexual abuse and a racist past are you against? From my count there are 2 running in this election, neither of which can speak in complete sentences and both of which are senile cooks whose glory days are not only 30 years behind them, but were mostly made up retroactively
I mean, one of the two is easier to bully with bad poll numbers and public opinion.

...yeah, not exactly a full-throated endorsement, I know
 

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Well there goes any hope I had for this election.

Looks like I'll be throwing my vote away on a third party again since I can't in good conscience vote for either the democratic or the republican nominee.

Now I'll be the scapegoat for democrats letting Trump win when they chose to go with one of the worst candidates they had.
 

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Hey, remember when the hardcore Bernie supporters were saying it was better Trump won than Clinton, because it'd make the Dems go hard left next time? Yeah...

Anyhoo, I get why people don't want to vote for Biden, I really do. But, assuming that you get anything like a free and fair election (and that's not a given), you've got all of two options.

Not voting for Clinton because she wasn't Sanders got the US 4 years of Trump and Biden as the Dem candidate. Not voting for him because he's not Sanders won't be any better this time.
 

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Hey, remember when the hardcore Bernie supporters were saying it was better Trump won than Clinton, because it'd make the Dems go hard left next time? Yeah...

Anyhoo, I get why people don't want to vote for Biden, I really do. But, assuming that you get anything like a free and fair election (and that's not a given), you've got all of two options.

Not voting for Clinton because she wasn't Sanders got the US 4 years of Trump and Biden as the Dem candidate. Not voting for him because he's not Sanders won't be any better this time.
At this rate I'll accept the death of the Democrat party. Because they seem too stupid to realize how hard they're making things for themselves.

Or of course that they don't care if Trump wins because to the heads of the DNC, Trump is better than Sanders.
 

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Looks like I'll be throwing my vote away on a third party again since I can't in good conscience vote for either the democratic or the republican nominee.

Now I'll be the scapegoat for democrats letting Trump win when they chose to go with one of the worst candidates they had.
I feel that.

2016 was the best chance we had for third parties and the most popular one only got 3% of the popular vote; if they had gotten at least 5%, it would have qualified the Libertarian party for FEC funding...

Feels bad man
 
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