Bill to legalize Marijuana introduced in California

[djpobletay]

I don't know why the myth of marijuana not being dangerous floats around. It has more carcinogens the cigarettes and thus has a higher chance of causing lung cancer. Overdoses on marijuana are far more likely the overdoses on booze. The only reason you DON'T hear about that stuff is because there are no ads saying don't do pot for (blah) reasons because its already illegal.

OK. I lived on the state border of California and Nevada for 18 years. They have constantly been trying to pass that law in both states. And now refering to the quote. Stanford medical department did a large study on the effects of marajuana and they discovered that it does not cause lung cancer because the thc kills the cancerous cells. The idea that marajuana is bad comes from the early 20s because of prohibitions. More people used marajuana durring prohibition and it continued to rise after it was repealed. Then a massive ad campaign went out later by the man who was incharge of controling the drug problem. His main reason behind it, to get a bigger budget. It was all propiganda and it was so well done it is still believed today.

 

[Roamin11]

Alright so THC is what makes pot good or shitty depending on the content right? Do you think the goverment will give us pot with a good THC content I don't think so we will still be depended on shaddy people for the good stuff.

Wait, why wouldn't they? They let us have good alcohol.

Why would they would they sell it in regular medium and extra strength THC??? I think your giving the government to much credit..

 

[InvisibleMilk]

Is this the plan to fix our economy?!

 

[GreenDevilJF]

Marijuana has no legitimate reason to be legalized as anything but prescriptive medication. Recreational drugs are for people who fail at life. This includes both cigarettes and alcohol, well at least when taken in more than moderate quantities.

If you need a substance to "get you through the day" then talk with your doctor or a psychiatrist. Then if you have an actual problem such as a chemical imbalance in your brain it can be diagnosed and treated. If you just need a "pick me up", get over it.

If you need to unwind do some exercise or read a book or listen to music. Much better for your health and more productive.

Exactly, even though I am pretty sure this is going to piss someone off.

 

[Evilbunny]

Alright so THC is what makes pot good or shitty depending on the content right? Do you think the goverment will give us pot with a good THC content I don't think so we will still be depended on shaddy people for the good stuff.

Wait, why wouldn't they? They let us have good alcohol.

Why would they would they sell it in regular medium and extra strength THC??? I think your giving the government to much credit..

I probably am, but have you ever tried some government grown marijuana? It's way better than anything else I've ever had.

 

[Captain Blackout]

Marijuana has no legitimate reason to be legalized as anything but prescriptive medication. Recreational drugs are for people who fail at life. This includes both cigarettes and alcohol, well at least when taken in more than moderate quantities.

If you need a substance to "get you through the day" then talk with your doctor or a psychiatrist. Then if you have an actual problem such as a chemical imbalance in your brain it can be diagnosed and treated. If you just need a "pick me up", get over it.

If you need to unwind do some exercise or read a book or listen to music. Much better for your health and more productive.

Way to judge the rest of us by your own life. Recreational drug use has been a part of human existence since before there were people. Seriously, some animals will eat fruit after it has fermented to a degree on purpose. Nice thing about pot? After dealing with both alcohol and pot in my life and others I found one thing out for certain: Alcohol does far far more damage then pot to both the user and those around them. Not in some cases, not I formed an opinion, not something seriously debatable. Alcohol. More. Damaging. Then. Pot. Since you are NEVER getting rid of recreational drug use, why not approach the issue with logic. They legalized the wrong drug when they ended prohibition. Or as I like to put it:

Man made beer, God made pot, who do you trust?

(and before you rant about coca leaves etc. AGAIN, think: Never getting rid of recreational drug use, ever. Pot, Cocaine, or Heroin? Which do you legalize?)

 

[Roamin11]

Alright so THC is what makes pot good or shitty depending on the content right? Do you think the goverment will give us pot with a good THC content I don't think so we will still be depended on shaddy people for the good stuff.

Wait, why wouldn't they? They let us have good alcohol.

Why would they would they sell it in regular medium and extra strength THC??? I think your giving the government to much credit..

I probably am, but have you ever tried some government grown marijuana? It's way better than anything else I've ever had.

Please let me buy you a ticket to British Colombia we smoke everything here even salmon...

 

[Evilbunny]

Please let me buy you a ticket to British Colombia we smoke everything here even salmon...

I'd be down for that. I fucking love smoked salmon.

 

[implodingMan]

Meh. Legalizing weed would be kind of nice I guess. Wouldn't really change much for me. I can already walk about 50 feet in any direction from where I am sitting and find at least 4 people that I can buy from, so this wouldn't affect my drug attaining abilities in any way.

As for the whole "health" aspect of it. Fuck it. So its possibly bad for me in some way. Whoop de doo. I'm pretty sure that everything I do these days is bad for me. This food I eat is saturated with crap, by ipod headphones are making me go deaf, all of my electronics are giving me cancers of various sorts, and my perfectly legal recreational drinking is destroying my brain and my liver. Whats one more on the pile? I'm sure my videogaming is doing wonders for my health. These painkillers I'm taking for my wisdom teeth are filled with all sorts of chemicals that probably worse than THC.

As for the "moral" aspects, its my weekend dammit. Shoo.

 

[Gamer137]

What people don't realise is that NO ONE truly and honestly KNOWS what marijuana does to a person. People know tobacco can give you cancer and you can die from alcohol. People use the "Oh, but you can smoke and drink, but you can't smoke pot. They'd make so much money from it!" Yes, while that is true, no one knows what it does to people. It is legal for medical reasons in Canada (maybe the states, not totally sure.) Because it can assist with some issues in that sense. But if people don't know and the government is "suposedly" supposed to do what's best for us, they shouldn't be allowed to let people legally smoke marijuana without them being able to be fully aware of the consequences.

Yes, it medically legal down here, though pretty rare I think.

As for the regulating, if the government does not have consistent prove of harm, they just need to put "This product has been linked to serious health problems" and other similar labels everywhere it is sold.

I agree with everyone of those poitns the Congressmen made. Less tax money wasted on investigations, enforcement, and imprisoning. More tax money coming into the government, and less crime related to people trying to get some MJ. So long as it is regulated like cigs, meaning no smoking in public places, then I see no down side. If people get health problems related to MJ, they just need to pay for the damaged themselves and the insurance company. The government should just add that. "The government is not resonsible for financially aiding victims of marijuana related illnesses."

 

[Ezekel]

Marijuana has no legitimate reason to be legalized as anything but prescriptive medication. Recreational drugs are for people who fail at life. This includes both cigarettes and alcohol, well at least when taken in more than moderate quantities.

If you need a substance to "get you through the day" then talk with your doctor or a psychiatrist. Then if you have an actual problem such as a chemical imbalance in your brain it can be diagnosed and treated. If you just need a "pick me up", get over it.

If you need to unwind do some exercise or read a book or listen to music. Much better for your health and more productive.

Way to judge the rest of us by your own life. Recreational drug use has been a part of human existence since before there were people. Seriously, some animals will eat fruit after it has fermented to a degree on purpose. Nice thing about pot? After dealing with both alcohol and pot in my life and others I found one thing out for certain: Alcohol does far far more damage then pot to both the user and those around them. Not in some cases, not I formed an opinion, not something seriously debatable. Alcohol. More. Damaging. Then. Pot. Since you are NEVER getting rid of recreational drug use, why not approach the issue with logic. They legalized the wrong drug when they ended prohibition. Or as I like to put it:

Man made beer, God made pot, who do you trust?

(and before you rant about coca leaves etc. AGAIN, think: Never getting rid of recreational drug use, ever. Pot, Cocaine, or Heroin? Which do you legalize?)

A couple things, how is it possible that recreational drug use has been part of human existence since before humans existed? I also do not care what animals do, it has no bearing on what I think. Alcohol can be damaging, if taken in more than moderate quantities. Scientific study has stated that those who are moderate drinkers, for example a glass of wine with food, actually live longer than those who do not drink at all.

Alcohol has many medicinal benefits, but if you drink a six pack your not going to get them. Its like anything else, everything in moderation. I do not drink, mostly because I have had no real reason to. I might try wine at some point in time, but only a glass with a meal. Those who drink in excess I do not agree with.

Cigarettes have no medicinal benefits. Tobacco might, but I have not heard anything about it short of it being some kind of panacea for Native Americans back in the day.

Marijuana might have medical uses as well, and I am open to it being studied and used for that purpose.

Also legalizing anything merely because you can not stop it is stupid. You can't stop people from stealing so why not make it legal? Same goes for any crime, people do them regardless of them being illegal.

 

[Yog Sothoth]

Marijuana has no legitimate reason to be legalized as anything but prescriptive medication. Recreational drugs are for people who fail at life. This includes both cigarettes and alcohol, well at least when taken in more than moderate quantities.

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Really? Do you ever go out drinking? How about coffee? Smoke? Those are all recreational drugs, in essence. Many, many successful people who did not "fail at life" smoked pot and used other mind-altering substances. I could easily name dozens and dozens of artist, musicians, writers and even scientists who at least smoked cannabis. John Lenon, Carl Sagan, Alexander Dumas, Bill Maher, Friedrich Nietzsche, and Bill Bradley to name a few, have all admitted to at least experimenting with pot or hashish.

Any substance, legal or not, can be abused and cause dependency. The cause is not the substance, it is the user. Don't blame drugs for one's failures, blame the individual. That is personal responsibility.

EDIT: This thread will probably be locked soon....

 

[Bachanomon92]

Hopefully other states will take notice and follow in California's steps. I'm getting sick of hiding.

 

[Evilbunny]

Doesn't it also severely fuck up your mind? I've never done it so I wouldn't know, but can't it cause depression, and like I said, mess up your brain? It could be good because the government can make lots of money in taxes and such, but I'm still not sure.

I've never heard of it causing depression. I mean I'm always happy as a clam after I smoke. It can cause you to suffer short term memory loss from extended usage, though. But, if you only do it socially, like once a week or less, then I don't think it'll mess up your brain any more than alcohol will.