Bill to legalize Marijuana introduced in California

[Yog Sothoth]

And now a moment from "The Godfather" series:

Just when I get out they DRAG me back in!!!

Fine. This is no longer the pot thread. This is now the Denis Leary thread. All the cool kids will _only_ be discussing Denis Leary.
All discussion about pot by the cool kids will be only in direct relation somehow to Denis Leary.

Dear lord. You had to bring up the church again, didn't you. Proof God loves me: I'm still living. Then again, how wrong can you be when three of your commandments simply state: Cindy Crawford.

I'm suprised I haven't started taping "Rescue Me" yet. I just might before too long.

He has an Honorary Doctorate from his alma mater Emerson College. Did some "literary" work there or some such. And if Timothy Leary has a doctorate in anything I don't think I wanna know about it.

"Look man, I made a bong out of my HEAD!"

In the end, it's addictive, it has a possibility of ruining your life. Just like cigarettes and alcohol do. If it becomes legal and people want to do it, so long as they understand the risks I really don't care, just never come near me and I don't want anything to do with you. Water is obviously legal, but if it started becoming an immensely finite resource, people would kill each other over it. Even if marijuana becomes legal, what happens when a immensely addicted person can't find or afford (more likely) any, but knows "that neighbor across the street" does. Theft at the least, murder at the worst. Crime will not disappear simply because it's legal. Crimes due to alcohol happen ALL the time. In terms of addiction/dependence, there's not all that much different.

Note: I'm not saying it WILL ruin your life, it just certainly has a chance of doing so. I know full well there are people out there who drink/smoke and just have a good time and I don't need to hear a rant on how wonderful it is. Go on, enjoy yourselves, just like I said, stay away from me and I'll respect your choices.

Interesting position, but how does that relate to Denis Leary?

In all seriousness, I hope that when you say that pot's addictive, you mean in the same way that chocolate and video games can be (psychologically) addictive, and not physically. Because there isn't any strong evidence that pot is physically addictive. I've never heard of a strung-out stoner killing for weed.... Marijuana cartels will kill, but by that point it's about money and not drugs.

 

[Ronwue]

Not only do I believe pot should be legalized, it should be mandatory ~Bill Hicks.

 

[Echolocating]

For those who are concerned about lung cancer... three words: fuckin' brownies, man. ;-)

It's been proven (government funded studies - yay, Canada!) that marijuana is way less harmful than cigarettes or alcohol.

This link pretty much answers any questions about marijuana...
http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/

 

[Sgt Doom]

I don't know why the myth of marijuana not being dangerous floats around. It has more carcinogens the cigarettes and thus has a higher chance of causing lung cancer. Overdoses on marijuana are far more likely the overdoses on booze. The only reason you DON'T hear about that stuff is because there are no ads saying don't do pot for (blah) reasons because its already illegal.

To overdose on weed you literally need to smoke kilogram upon kilogram of pure THC to get a lethal dose.

 

[NeoAC]

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If any of you want a response send me a private message. The rest of you enjoy your thread.

Oh, but we just got to the Denis Leary! You LOVE Denis Leary.....

And now a moment from "The Godfather" series:

Just when I get out they DRAG me back in!!!

Fine. This is no longer the pot thread. This is now the Denis Leary thread. All the cool kids will _only_ be discussing Denis Leary.
All discussion about pot by the cool kids will be only in direct relation somehow to Denis Leary.

Dear lord. You had to bring up the church again, didn't you. Proof God loves me: I'm still living. Then again, how wrong can you be when three of your commandments simply state: Cindy Crawford.

I'm suprised I haven't started taping "Rescue Me" yet. I just might before too long.

He has an Honorary Doctorate from his alma mater Emerson College. Did some "literary" work there or some such. And if Timothy Leary has a doctorate in anything I don't think I wanna know about it.

Denis Leary has one of the best movie monologues ever in Demolition Man. The movie may have sucked, but he was hilarious.

On topic, I support this bill by Tom Ammiano, but I'm Canadian, so you probably could have guessed that...

Also, to anyone who says marijuana causes overdoses, wow, you needed to read up on some stuff. I mean, heck, it's easier to overdose on water than it is on marijuana! (Don't tell me it hasn't happened before. What do you think drowning is?)

 

[Yog Sothoth]

Denis Leary has one of the best movie monologues ever in Demolition Man. The movie may have sucked, but he was hilarious.

On topic, I support this bill by Tom Ammiano, but I'm Canadian, so you probably could have guessed that...

Also, to anyone who says marijuana causes overdoses, wow, you needed to read up on some stuff. I mean, heck, it's easier to overdose on water than it is on marijuana! (Don't tell me it hasn't happened before. What do you think drowning is?)

Ah yes, the famous Demolition Man monologue. Yeah, that was truly epic...

And yes, you can OD on water.... there was recently a story in the news about some DJs who were almost criminally charged in the death of a listener who overdosed on water for a contest...

 

[NeoAC]

Ah yes, the famous Demolition Man monologue. Yeah, that was truly epic...

And yes, you can OD on water.... there was recently a story in the news about some DJs who were almost criminally charged in the death of a listener who overdosed on water for a contest...

Ah yes, the "Hold your Wee for a Wii" contest over in Sacramento. I'm sorry but I had to laugh at that one. That has to be one of the most embarrassing ways to go ever.

 

[Yog Sothoth]

Ah yes, the famous Demolition Man monologue. Yeah, that was truly epic...

And yes, you can OD on water.... there was recently a story in the news about some DJs who were almost criminally charged in the death of a listener who overdosed on water for a contest...

Ah yes, the "Hold your Wee for a Wii" contest over in Sacramento. I'm sorry but I had to laugh at that one. That has to be one of the most embarrassing ways to go ever.

Yes, natural selection at it's finest, to be sure....

Hmmm, no lock yet.... interesting.... we've gone waaaaay off topic and back a few times now.....

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

I don't know why the myth of marijuana not being dangerous floats around. It has more carcinogens the cigarettes and thus has a higher chance of causing lung cancer. Overdoses on marijuana are far more likely the overdoses on booze. The only reason you DON'T hear about that stuff is because there are no ads saying don't do pot for (blah) reasons because its already illegal.

Hrmm...
Less carciogens than tobacco if you use it pure. It's the tobacco that contains the carciogens.
Lung cancer is more often caused by build up of tar, which isn't in marijuana.
Overdoses on marijuana are rarer than rocking horse shit as it's massively low in toxins.

Tell you what, find me a news report that has a "reefer madness" story, and I'll find you 10 with either cocaine(illegal) or alcohol(legal). MJ is chemically safer than sugar, it's just that people don't know it's effects because there's never been any sensible studies done on it.

 

[Ultrajoe]

I'll just leave this here, for all parties to consider

 

[Yog Sothoth]

I'll just leave this here, for all parties to consider

That's not exactly what I'd call a reputable source......

 

[Masika]

There are also 3-5 times MORE carcinogens in pot than tobacco. Carcinogens are what cause cancer. It also deacreses learning, reaction, common sencse. People who use pot are more likely to have their IQ drop, have more days absent or late from work or school and sooner or later, it will seriously affect your ability to function. But people don't actually care 'bout stuff like that.

Carcinogens only effect your head, Fred
Its the tar and smoke that effect your lungs, none of which you get from Marijuana if in-taken correctly

Oh, but there's also 50% more tar in marihuana smoke.

And what some of you people don't seem to get, is that yes, by making it legal, there would be less tax money spent. Then again, MORE people would use it. Thus more people's minds would suffer. I see it in my school all the time. Some kids that have the potential of being honor students. They smoke marijuana even just twice a month and they become so slow and almost to the point of incompetence. Sure, alcohol can be worse, but get some salt and sugar in your body lots of water and a few hours of sleep and the affects wear off. But the affects of one joint can last up to two weeks. Yes, making it legal would save tax money and police time, but what poeple don't see is that it "so far" has been proven that it slows people down. People will go to work a little bit less and not be nearly as affective in their jobs. I loved the states. I lived there for seven years and this dang recession just doesn't seem real to me now. But if people want out, is slowing people down so they can't do their jobs the most affective way of doing it?

 

[Captain Blackout]

I loved Demolition Man. Pure unadulterated fun. Will NEVER make anyone's top three of all time list, and yet, still just pure fun. And so predictive (Taco Bell RULES. 'Tards in robes with arbitrary laws do not!) I'd eat a rat burger with Denis Leary any day. Edgar Friendly was my hero for MONTHS after seeing that.

And yes Jeffers, cool kids, Denis Leary. Why? 'Cause pot is now off topic for this thread and I somehow missed Bill Hicks. My apologies to a great.

Masika, you're either exaggerating or some of the kids in your school have more problems then just pot. I know of like two people in all of reality who _might_ smoke if it was legal but don't 'cause it's not. Pot stays in your system, but the effects are minimalized after day one. And finally, the global recession was caused ultimately by rampant capitalism. Slowing us all down a little and refocusing on needs, not extravagant wants is exactly what this world needs. If I can get that through pot YAAH! NOW GET BACK ON TOPIC! What are your thoughts on Denis Leary? Did he in fact completely rip off Bill Hicks?

EDIT: Jeffers beat me to the punch. Here's a joint Masika. Here's a Denis Leary tape. You'll need these if you don't want to feel that nasty bruise....

 

[gibboss28]

Well good for California. My thoughts on it are as followed: It should be legalised. Like alcohol and cigarettes it has its good points, but also like alcohol and cigarettes it's got bad points too. So yeah...legalise it and let people decide whether or not they're going to touch it...like people have done with cigarettes and alcohol.

 

[Talendra]

Frankly I don't much care if they legalize it or not. I do however find the amount of people who think it is harmless to be quite alarming. I have a close friend who was quite screwed up from smoking marijuana too often. Thankfully he has stopped and his life is going alot better now.
Another person I know now suffers from drug induced schizophrenia from smoking marijuana.
Yes both of these stemmed from abusing the drug and using it too much, and I really do not care if you smoke it or not.
I just believe everyone should make a more informed decision and realize that, yes marijuana can be harmful and can be addictive.
Yes alcohol can be too, I'm not arguing this, I actually don't want to argue about the matter at all.
Just wanted to point out the alarming trend of believing Marijuana is harmless when it can be quite the opposite when abused.
/end rant and retreat back to my hole.
Have fun.

 

[orifice]

I don't know why the myth of marijuana not being dangerous floats around. It has more carcinogens the cigarettes and thus has a higher chance of causing lung cancer. Overdoses on marijuana are far more likely the overdoses on booze. The only reason you DON'T hear about that stuff is because there are no ads saying don't do pot for (blah) reasons because its already illegal.

Does it take practice to be as dumb as you are. Every single 'point' that you make in this statement is the polar opposite of the truth. Marijuana contains less carcinogens than tobbacco not more, weed smokers actually have a lower incidence of lung cancer than tobbacco smokers. Nobody has ever died of a marijuana overdose, because it's impossible to do so, unconciousness would happen long before you got even remotely close to an overdose. And to the best of my knowledge, the only death directly attributed to marijuana is when eleven and a half tons of it fell on a hashish packer.