Bill to legalize Marijuana introduced in California

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orifice

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
Ultrajoe said:
Hang on a second.

The source state he smoked 25,000 joints during an 11 year period. 11 years is equal to around 4000 days. Divide 25,000 by 4000, you get roughly 6 and a quarter.

The man was smoking the equivalent of 6 joints a day for 11 years. I'm not surprised he croaked it. If you do 6 of anything for 11 years, you're going to die. -snip-
I would dispute that! I smoke more than six a day(joints) and have been smoking for twenty years, and yet I am fine! This 'news' story is a pile of crap, but that's not really surprising when you consider who's printing it.
 

s3cur1tr0n

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You are all retarded, it doesnt matter what Cali does, why???? Because it is a Federal law as well. Numerous drug busts have taken place in States where it is already legal. They have been busting people who have cancer and a permit to grow as well. The fact remains it is against federal law.
 

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If it gets legalized someone should make a reality tv-show on it:
Who gets to overdose the fastest:
People sitting around day after day and trying to do it
I'd be hilarious and at least on par in terms of sophistication with most shows that run in the UK
 

Naal

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Good luck California. If they won't pass gay marriage they wont legalize pot.

Try again next year.
 

JWAN

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DeathSnipa1992 said:
JWAN said:
well
prolonged exposure can cause testicular cancer (ensuring hippies cannot reproduce)
toxicity after prolonged or repeated exposure (depends on the person)
Mental retardation, again after prolonged exposure (won't notice any difference)


go for it
ummm wwwhaat?? i dnt think so sir
you don't have to take my word for it look it up, and if you don't believe the articles keep going at it. Do it anyway.

No one seems to understand that all of my posts don't condemn people from smoking pot. I really don't care. Keep going, when you end up wearing your tinfoil hat shaking in the corner about a 9/11 conspiracy your not going to be irritating me anymore.
 

JWAN

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Yog Sothoth said:
JWAN said:
Yog Sothoth said:
JWAN said:
well
prolonged exposure can cause testicular cancer (ensuring hippies cannot reproduce) < I read that study, it's not conclusive and is merely a preliminary finding from a small sample.
Mental retardation (won't notice any difference) < No, but it has been named a risk factor for schizophrenia. Note that a "risk factor" is not a direct link.


go for it
I'm done de-bunking misconceptions here today, come back tomorrow if anyone else has any mis-information that needs to be shot down......
yea thats why I put CAN
schizophrenia is a mental defect, a mental defect is a retardation
You should've put "MIGHT", not "CAN"......

Neither of those statements are yet proven. We have some evidence, but we all know (or should know!) that evidence can be misleading or counter-intuitive. Is the earth flat? It looks flat from here, so it must be, right? Same logic.

EDIT: Also, schizophrenia and developmental disabilities are not the same. The first is a mental illness, the latter a birth defect......
I had 3 statements and you keep deleting the one about prolonged exposure and toxicity. Get a dictionary and look up retardation and tell me that none of your pothead friends end up like that. I dare you. Schizophrenia is mental illness and can escalate to whatever is going on in the flea circus that is the pot heads brain.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/retardation

"Schizophrenia (pronounced /&#716;sk&#618;ts&#601;&#712;fr&#603;ni&#601;/ or /&#716;sk&#618;ts&#601;&#712;fri&#720;ni&#601;/), from the Greek roots schizein (&#963;&#967;&#943;&#950;&#949;&#953;&#957;, "to split") and phr&#275;n, phren- (&#966;&#961;&#942;&#957;, &#966;&#961;&#949;&#957;-, "mind") is a psychiatric diagnosis that describes a mental disorder characterized by abnormalities in the perception or expression of reality (sound familiar yet YOG?) . It most commonly manifests as auditory hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions, or disorganized speech and thinking with significant social or occupational dysfunction. Onset of symptoms typically occurs in young adulthood,[1] with approximately 0.4?0.6%[2][3] of the population affected." took me 4 seconds and wikipedia to look this up

I never told anyone to stop, keep going. Its just less schizo's making websites and folding $20 bills and making profits off of a larger paranoid base.

what the hell do I care.
 

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I'd like to see it happen, but I unfortunately doubt that it will. It's still America after all, and I have my doubts if thats actually within a states power. Now, I know it actually is, but I doubt that many people are gonna buy into the idea, and I think that external pressure will play a key role. Every state around it is gonna SHIT.

All that being said, california is probably the one state that could very easily stay as is. If the rumours are correct, it doesnt sound too different from canada, meaning that its generally socially acceptable, and that the law isn't really looking for you. That, and the fact they're a stones throw a way from BC, kinda tells me they should enjoy the good thing they have.

Like, legalizing pot would be nice, but when you've got a situation where your practically overwhelmed with the variety and quantity of bud around you like in Canada and Cali, and no ones stopping you from smoking it, why opt to let the government take over?
Cause governments cant grow dope.
 

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I wouldn't be opposed to legalizing pot, but I wouldn't let it go beyond that to any other illicit drugs.


To those who say "it's not/is as bad as cigarettes", the smoke is not what gives you lung cancer. It is the "tar" in the cigarettes, which is the amount of toxic chemicals. Cannabis contains 1/3 the amount of tar contained in a cigarette.
 

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Does anyone, ANYONE have some VALID (and that means a truly independant report) scientifical data, a study or even just a chemical test's results for carcinogens? I say this because everyone here says different things about this drug without anything to back up either side, so its just people saying "NO" "YES" "NO" ad infinitum (I must admit, I only read the first page).
 

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JWAN said:
DeathSnipa1992 said:
JWAN said:
well
prolonged exposure can cause testicular cancer (ensuring hippies cannot reproduce)
toxicity after prolonged or repeated exposure (depends on the person)
Mental retardation, again after prolonged exposure (won't notice any difference)


go for it
ummm wwwhaat?? i dnt think so sir
you don't have to take my word for it look it up, and if you don't believe the articles keep going at it. Do it anyway.

No one seems to understand that all of my posts don't condemn people from smoking pot. I really don't care. Keep going, when you end up wearing your tinfoil hat shaking in the corner about a 9/11 conspiracy your not going to be irritating me anymore.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4286435.stm
We could go until we're both blue in the face throwing various credible medical "articles" at each other, trying to prove a point. The fact is, they don't convince anybody.
Making a blanket statement about casual/habitual pot smokers on the other hand, says alot about your own personality.
Not all pot smokers are slow witted, or paranoid. Instead, they are represented by the lowest common denominators of their own social group, like so many people are. There's plenty of "stoners" that would impress anybody based on their accomplishments and intelligence, just as I'm sure there are plenty of self inflated pricks that really arent all that bad when they come off their high horse and treat people like people, regardless.
 

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Kadamon said:
Evilbunny said:
I noticed this little article [http://blog.norml.org/2009/02/23/norml-breaking-news-california-assemblyman-introduces-legislation-to-tax-and-regulate-marijuana-like-alcohol/] today and wanted to know what the escapist thought of this. Personally I think it's a great idea and would help stimulate the economy in this recession. This might just be the beginning, too. Perhaps if this passes and California is better of for it, the rest of the country may follow suit.
Should we all REALLY be following California's influence? Listen to Californication (By The Red Hot Chili Peppers) once and you'll see...
All hail the RHCP Overlords! Clearly, a band should be deciding what our country needs!
 

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pantsoffdanceoff said:
I don't know why the myth of marijuana not being dangerous floats around. It has more carcinogens the cigarettes and thus has a higher chance of causing lung cancer. Overdoses on marijuana are far more likely the overdoses on booze. The only reason you DON'T hear about that stuff is because there are no ads saying don't do pot for (blah) reasons because its already illegal.
Utter bullshit. I'm not suggesting it's totality harmless at all but it's on par for causing cancer through smoking and THAT'S legal. AND if you listen to substance abuse specialists they say there are three main problems... "alcohol, alcohol and alcohol" all the rest pale in comparison. But you hardly hear of that because it IS legal. Besides, we all know what happened when the States made booze illegal, alcoholism was far worse, and say "hello" to the Mafia.

I live in South Australia where pot possession is simply a small fine, as is growing a plant in your back yard. Society hasn't collapsed. And before you ask... no, I don't smoke it anymore OR drink booze. ALL substance abuse is harmful to varying degrees in my opinion but outlawing it is not the solution, it just creates more problems. And though I don't do it, smoking a couple of joints on the weekend does not constitute abuse imo.
 

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Legalize it... don't criticize it...

Personally, regardless of what the US Government might say, I own my body. If I want to base jump, sky dive, ride a ninja without a helmet, commit assisted suicide or eat baby asprin until I exploded then that's MY business, not yours.

Drug law however, is the problem in this country. As simple look at prohibition will tell you that. Plus, we as a society are getting no tax money from the number one cash crop of a lot of states.

Let people do what they want and get us our cut.
 

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pantsoffdanceoff said:
I don't know why the myth of marijuana not being dangerous floats around. It has more carcinogens the cigarettes and thus has a higher chance of causing lung cancer. Overdoses on marijuana are far more likely the overdoses on booze. The only reason you DON'T hear about that stuff is because there are no ads saying don't do pot for (blah) reasons because its already illegal.
When did ANYONE ever overdose on weed? Maybe people that are on certain kinds of medications. I've smoked over an ounce in one sitting and I didn't OD. A rat would have to smoke over 1,000 in an hour to get a lethal dose of THC. If weed is bad for you, why are there two receptors in your brain devoted to the up take of THC?
 

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Actually there are studies that show that it is worse than regular cigarettes, but that is not really the point of this thread.

I believe legalizing drugs would be best. As long as people that do make decisions to smoke marijuana do not come crawling to the government for hand-outs and welfare because they now have lung cancer or some new study shows marijuana causes something else, etc etc. Insurance companies can charge more to cover them, and all other sorts of things that legalizing will entail.

As long as people are to take responsibility for their own actions, and stop relying on a welfare state, I'm for it. If you do it, live by it.
 

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Masika said:
There are also 3-5 times MORE carcinogens in pot than tobacco. Carcinogens are what cause cancer. It also deacreses learning, reaction, common sencse. People who use pot are more likely to have their IQ drop, have more days absent or late from work or school and sooner or later, it will seriously affect your ability to function. But people don't actually care 'bout stuff like that.
Dude, what are you talking about? I'm in Mensa and I've smoked pot since I was 13. I was even high when I took my IQ test, so by your logic I am actually a genius but because I'm stoned most of the time I'm lower my IQ. I've been a straight A student in college. I graduate Phi Theta Kappa and am on the Dean's List. So even thought I'm stoned and lower my IQ that means that I am still smarter than most of the people in my college, because the pot head seams to be the only one who likes to answer questions or has any clue what is going on. I've never had a "deacrese" in my learning, since I'm still going to school and still getting A's. And when I'm really high, I have plenty of common sense, I just realize that NO ONE ELSE HAS ANY! How many people are born, sober, with no common sense? Should they be made illegal? I think everyone needs to shut up and smoke a pipe so we can all relax and realize that there is more to life than working it away.