Bill to legalize Marijuana introduced in California

[runtheplacered]

Why not go with the idea of Dr. Denis Leary.

If it's 'from' Denis Leary, it was probably plagiarized.

Seriously, I can't stand that guy.

Yes I know it is a joke but the idea is sound, its from "Why We Suck". And he is a doctor, he recieved a doctorate, in "Why We Suck" he has a picture of it. Give the guy some credit, other people can have original ideas besides you. Just to let you know everything has been plagiarized because there have never been an orginal idea since the first organisms discovered how to walk, talk and breath.

That's not true at all. You can in fact have an original idea. First of all, all you have to do to get around plagiarism is give credit where credit is due. Denis Leary stole material from both Bill Hicks and Louis C.K, two very fine comedians. A huge chunk of jokes were stolen verbatim from Bill Hicks and then recorded onto a disc and sold for cash. That's unacceptable.

And poor Louis C.K. has had jokes stolen from him by both Leary and Dane Cook. I'd be pissed, but he takes it very well.

Seriously, don't tell me that you can't have original ideas. That sounds like something you pulled out of an acid trip. I'd sit here and write more about it but I have some sort of weird flu-like symptoms and get dizzy as hell. Can't sit at the computer for very long today.

 

[ICantBelieveItGoesBoom]

I don't know why the myth of marijuana not being dangerous floats around. It has more carcinogens the cigarettes and thus has a higher chance of causing lung cancer. Overdoses on marijuana are far more likely the overdoses on booze. The only reason you DON'T hear about that stuff is because there are no ads saying don't do pot for (blah) reasons because its already illegal.

Quote from the genius Katt Williams "You can't overdose on marijuana there are only 3 side effects hungry, happy, sleepy. Aspirin on the other hand is legal but if you take 13 of them motherfuckers it'll be your last headache"

 

[runtheplacered]

I'll just leave this here, for all parties to consider

Come on Ultrajoe, you can do better then that.

First of all, so what? What does that have to do with the legalization of anything? I can choke and die on a pencil, should we go ahead and ban that too?

Secondly, 1 guy out of centuries and centuries of potheads isn't too bad, wouldn't you say? In fact, I think you're proving people with a pro-pot agenda correct.

With those two things in mind, what exactly should we be considering? That you can copy and paste links into a forum? I am not seeing the relevance.

 

[MorganL4]

ummmm im pretty sure the it IS legal in california already, for medicinal ( dont know if i speelled that right) purposes i saw a documentary called super high me, staring doug benson, its all about medical pot

 

[Resin213]

medical marijuana is legal but that law is in direct violation of fedral law so we get DEA raids for people trying to deal with side effects of chemo therapy.

The real issue IMo is that California is seriously broke. We need to pass some money maker laws. I think we should legalize weed and tax the hell out of it. Set up a cross between Amsterdam and Las Vegas and take money from out of state gambling pothead Johns, and put it into our school system which could use the boost.

 

[BubbleGumSnareDrum]

You are all retarded, it doesnt matter what Cali does, why???? Because it is a Federal law as well. Numerous drug busts have taken place in States where it is already legal. They have been busting people who have cancer and a permit to grow as well. The fact remains it is against federal law.

That doesn't mean it can't and shouldn't be changed. In fact, that means the exact opposite. That federal law is a violation of state's rights.

There isn't even a federal law against SALVIA, for fuck's sake, and that shit's much more potent and dangerous than marijuana is. It's a hallucinogen.

 

[Aardvark Soup]

I live in the Netherlands and I completely agree with the legalisation of soft drugs becuase it stops the illegal market, people should be able to make out for themselves if they use this or not and legalisation does not significantly increase the number of users. It would also allow regulation.

However, the assumption that marijuana is not addictive and less unhealthy than smoking is a complete myth: there are plenty of people unable to stop using cannabis and a joint contains more damaging chemicals than a cigarette. It is true that Dutch weed contains a much larger dose of the effective chemicals than American marijuana but I would still highly recommend against using it.

 

[Necrophagist]

I noticed this little article [http://blog.norml.org/2009/02/23/norml-breaking-news-california-assemblyman-introduces-legislation-to-tax-and-regulate-marijuana-like-alcohol/] today and wanted to know what the escapist thought of this. Personally I think it's a great idea and would help stimulate the economy in this recession. This might just be the beginning, too. Perhaps if this passes and California is better of for it, the rest of the country may follow suit.

Should we all REALLY be following California's influence? Listen to Californication (By The Red Hot Chili Peppers) once and you'll see...

I personally make all of my public policy decisions based on rock songs.

 

[Necrophagist]

You are all retarded, it doesnt matter what Cali does, why???? Because it is a Federal law as well. Numerous drug busts have taken place in States where it is already legal. They have been busting people who have cancer and a permit to grow as well. The fact remains it is against federal law.

That doesn't mean it can't and shouldn't be changed. In fact, that means the exact opposite. That federal law is a violation of state's rights.

There isn't even a federal law against SALVIA, for fuck's sake, and that shit's much more potent and dangerous than marijuana is. It's a hallucinogen.

It's a matter of interstate commerce. Which is bullshit. But it makes it legal for the federal government to intervene.

Again, it's bullshit. But legal.

 

[Tales of Golden Sun]

whatever just come to the Netherlands my friend

 

[John-Joe]

ok, weed is more 3-5 times more dangerous than cigarettes, I'm guessing that people won't smoke as many joints as they do cigarettes, cause you act like a fucking retard when you're high(as you do when you're drunk).

It's all about smoking in moderation, like it is with drinking.
I don't go out and get hella drunk everyday, because I know I'll act like a raging retard, wich is only for the weekends, and I'll probably get addicted to alcohol after a while.

Now if you don't smoke 6 joints a day, you won't turn into a potato, but if you only smoke once in a while(once a week or something)you'll be fine.(I'm not saying that people ALWAYS turn out as idiots when they smoke alot, just saying that frequent smokers often don't know their dick from their ass)

And as they say in some south park episode(not quoting just the point of what's said) that the problem with smoking weed alot is it makes you feel good about sitting around doing nothing, and it's when you're sitting around doing nothing you should be improving your talents or socializing or whatever.

I think making pot legal would be fucking awesome, not that I care alot since I live far away, and it's not really a problem getting weed in my country, but it would be a step in the right direction for California, and take away a law wich I kinda see as liberal theft. And my country would probably follow after at some time, making weed legal too, wich I guess would make it easier to obtain, cheaper and safer.

For the record I live in Denmark.

 

[JWAN]

well
prolonged exposure can cause testicular cancer (ensuring hippies cannot reproduce)
toxicity after prolonged or repeated exposure (depends on the person)
Mental retardation, again after prolonged exposure (won't notice any difference)


go for it

ummm wwwhaat?? i dnt think so sir

you don't have to take my word for it look it up, and if you don't believe the articles keep going at it. Do it anyway.

No one seems to understand that all of my posts don't condemn people from smoking pot. I really don't care. Keep going, when you end up wearing your tinfoil hat shaking in the corner about a 9/11 conspiracy your not going to be irritating me anymore.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4286435.stm
We could go until we're both blue in the face throwing various credible medical "articles" at each other, trying to prove a point. The fact is, they don't convince anybody.
Making a blanket statement about casual/habitual pot smokers on the other hand, says alot about your own personality.
Not all pot smokers are slow witted, or paranoid. Instead, they are represented by the lowest common denominators of their own social group, like so many people are. There's plenty of "stoners" that would impress anybody based on their accomplishments and intelligence, just as I'm sure there are plenty of self inflated pricks that really arent all that bad when they come off their high horse and treat people like people, regardless.

"We would warn the public against taking marijuana as a way of preventing Alzheimer's"
High horse? are you talking about someone in particular?
Maybe you should step off of yours and try to see why I believe what i believe before you start putting a blanket statement on everyone who wants to keep a steady job and have some kind of future. I'm not trying to convince anybody of anything, keep doing it and when the day comes that you cant have children that's fine with me. At least you cant corrupt another generation with your shortsightedness. Besides unless your a rat (according to the study) the benefits are minimal the real benefit (in the first paragraph) is actually a manufactured version of the chemical "Scientists showed a synthetic version of the compound may reduce inflammation associated with Alzheimer's and thus help to prevent mental decline."

a synthetic is more or less built from a natural product (other plants have these chemicals) meaning that you don't need to smoke pot to get the benefits all you need are certain chemicals that you can make artificially. Just a helpful hint, read the article before you post it.

Its not the pot its a variation of the active chemical, so legalizing pot will do nothing in itself to help treat Alzheimer's

 

[Auron555]

If it passes, good for stoners. If it doesn't, well, I'm close to apathetic either way.

 

[edinflames]

If it gets legalized someone should make a reality tv-show on it:
Who gets to overdose the fastest:
People sitting around day after day and trying to do it
I'd be hilarious and at least on par in terms of sophistication with most shows that run in the UK

Clearly by sophisticated programs in the UK you mean 'Big Brother', 'X factor', 'strictly come dancing', 'I'm a celebrity get me out of here' and all those other reality tv competitions. Very sophisticated.

You should know, by the way, that you physically cannot possibly over-dose on the active chemicals in cannabis. Your show would have to run for as long as it takes a contestant to develop cancer or emphysema...that is going to be a very long time, it would probably get canceled.

If you want to see a documentary film where a guy gets high constantly for 30 days its already been done, see 'Super High Me'. His S.A.T scores went up, as did his sperm count, though he does lose ability in mathematics. As you'd expect, he had a great time making the film.

 

[SomeBritishDude]

I have two words.

Lucky Bastards.

 

[edinflames]

I have two words.

Lucky Bastards.

This.

 

[Brotherofwill]

If it gets legalized someone should make a reality tv-show on it:
Who gets to overdose the fastest:
People sitting around day after day and trying to do it
I'd be hilarious and at least on par in terms of sophistication with most shows that run in the UK

Clearly by sophisticated programs in the UK you mean 'Big Brother', 'X factor', 'strictly come dancing', 'I'm a celebrity get me out of here' and all those other reality tv competitions. Very sophisticated.

You should know, by the way, that you physically cannot possibly over-dose on the active chemicals in cannabis. Your show would have to run for as long as it takes a contestant to develop cancer or emphysema...that is going to be a very long time, it would probably get canceled.

If you want to see a documentary film where a guy gets high constantly for 30 days its already been done, see 'Super High Me'. His S.A.T scores went up, as did his sperm count, though he does lose ability in mathematics. As you'd expect, he had a great time making the film.

I was joking if you haven't figured. The 'sophistication' was a joke, almost all the shows, or atleast reality shows, in the UK are trash. It's getting more and more ridiculous with the trashiness and ideas, and my concept would fit nicely. I know you can't overdose, that's the twist for the show to continue to multiple seasons.

'Super High Me'? Someone must have thought of it quicker than me

 

[WingedFortress]

well
prolonged exposure can cause testicular cancer (ensuring hippies cannot reproduce)
toxicity after prolonged or repeated exposure (depends on the person)
Mental retardation, again after prolonged exposure (won't notice any difference)


go for it

ummm wwwhaat?? i dnt think so sir

you don't have to take my word for it look it up, and if you don't believe the articles keep going at it. Do it anyway.

No one seems to understand that all of my posts don't condemn people from smoking pot. I really don't care. Keep going, when you end up wearing your tinfoil hat shaking in the corner about a 9/11 conspiracy your not going to be irritating me anymore.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4286435.stm
We could go until we're both blue in the face throwing various credible medical "articles" at each other, trying to prove a point. The fact is, they don't convince anybody.
Making a blanket statement about casual/habitual pot smokers on the other hand, says alot about your own personality.
Not all pot smokers are slow witted, or paranoid. Instead, they are represented by the lowest common denominators of their own social group, like so many people are. There's plenty of "stoners" that would impress anybody based on their accomplishments and intelligence, just as I'm sure there are plenty of self inflated pricks that really arent all that bad when they come off their high horse and treat people like people, regardless.

"We would warn the public against taking marijuana as a way of preventing Alzheimer's"
High horse? are you talking about someone in particular?
Maybe you should step off of yours and try to see why I believe what i believe before you start putting a blanket statement on everyone who wants to keep a steady job and have some kind of future. I'm not trying to convince anybody of anything, keep doing it and when the day comes that you cant have children that's fine with me. At least you cant corrupt another generation with your shortsightedness. Besides unless your a rat (according to the study) the benefits are minimal the real benefit (in the first paragraph) is actually a manufactured version of the chemical "Scientists showed a synthetic version of the compound may reduce inflammation associated with Alzheimer's and thus help to prevent mental decline."

a synthetic is more or less built from a natural product (other plants have these chemicals) meaning that you don't need to smoke pot to get the benefits all you need are certain chemicals that you can make artificially. Just a helpful hint, read the article before you post it.

Its not the pot its a variation of the active chemical, so legalizing pot will do nothing in itself to help treat Alzheimer's

Unless my previous post didn't indicate well enough, that was more an example of how quickly a medical study can be found in defense of an argument, than a point I was I was trying to make on marijuana.

As for getting off my high horse, I couldn't see where you find validation for that statement at all. I'm not saying that everyone should smoke pot, far from it. I'm defending an act of civil disobedience that you are outright slandering. There is little difference between the arguments of anti-pot enthusiasts and the the ones presented to videogames. Both are forms of recreation that have both good and bad qualities. Both are badgered in the press, misconstrued, and almost always misrepresented. And statements like "I'm fine with stoners, it's just I hate them and hope to see them die out", when evidence is presented that not only can a person be functional while leisurely smoking marijuana, but excel, is such an unreasonable prejudice that you may as well just stop reading now, and not bother hitting the reply button if that is indeed the case.

And finally, as for a steady job, and some kind of future, don't worry about us pot heads. Canada has some of the best education in the world, one of the highest standards of living, and an overwhelming majority of people who partake in the use of marijuana. CEO's, bankers, lawyers, cops and the like. You'd be hard pressed to tell me what job in the world doesn't employ potheads, unknowingly or not.

 

[magnus gallant]

it's a good idea, it's a lot less dangerous than alchohol, and while it being "better" is up for debate, it certainly isn't worse for you then tobacco and alchohol.