The same as Final Fantasy, or Tales of... Bioshock is like a brand.TheNamlessGuy said:Yes, OUT OF IT. Not from it. There's a difference.hermes200 said:Actually, you said "they made Rapture out of it".
Besides, they are different things: Rapture is a shelter, Columbia is a death star...
Anyway, we are still 2 years off the release and the game has just been revealed. Still too early to see if they are part of the same universe.
After a thing like that crashes, there wouldn't be a lot left.
He used what was left as a basis.
And they must be in the same universe.
It's called Bioshock.
So your willing to accept an underwater city, but a city in the clouds, now that's just too much?wooty said:From the depths of the sea to .........a flying city?
Is the Bioshock franchise really grasping at straws already?
You know, I've seen you post this theory a couple of times, and I misunderstood it every single time until now... I thought you were trying to say that Andrew simply modified a sunken Columbia into Rapture, and as you say quite clearly here, that is a pretty silly idea since Columbia would be pretty smashed up. So... Now I'm confused, because there are two theories I consider plausible...TheNamlessGuy said:Yes, OUT OF IT. Not from it. There's a difference.hermes200 said:Actually, you said "they made Rapture out of it".
Besides, they are different things: Rapture is a shelter, Columbia is a death star...
Anyway, we are still 2 years off the release and the game has just been revealed. Still too early to see if they are part of the same universe.
After a thing like that crashes, there wouldn't be a lot left.
He used what was left as a basis.
And they must be in the same universe.
It's called Bioshock.
Hell yeah. I can totally see Andrew Ryan being nothing more than a petty "one-upper". That must be how his beef with Fontaine started in beginning as well!TheNamlessGuy said:I'm thinking more like "America couldn't get this city to work! I'll one up them by making it work UNDER WATER".Maeshone said:You know, I've seen you post this theory a couple of times, and I misunderstood it every single time until now... I thought you were trying to say that Andrew simply modified a sunken Columbia into Rapture, and as you say quite clearly here, that is a pretty silly idea since Columbia would be pretty smashed up. So... Now I'm confused, because there are two theories I consider plausible...
1. Andrew Ryan did not base Rapture out of the remnants of Columbia, because Columbia represented the very pillar of nationalistic pride and greed, something he built Rapture to get away from
or
2. Andrew Ryan built Rapture out of the remnants of a crashed Columbia due to the symbolism of the "downfall of decadence" that could be interpreted from Columbia crashing, and he could use that as a basis for founding a society that would be the opposite.
Or something.
I can't see how you can you such definitive language here, especially seeing as you're going on conjecture based on not very much at all. Nobody can prove anything, and past idle musing it's not all that worth getting this deep into it for now. Let's just enjoy the trailer.TheNamlessGuy said:Yes, OUT OF IT. Not from it. There's a difference.hermes200 said:Actually, you said "they made Rapture out of it".
Besides, they are different things: Rapture is a shelter, Columbia is a death star...
Anyway, we are still 2 years off the release and the game has just been revealed. Still too early to see if they are part of the same universe.
After a thing like that crashes, there wouldn't be a lot left.
He used what was left as a basis.
And they must be in the same universe.
It's called Bioshock.
To be honest I'd personally say that an underwater city is more belivable than a floating skyscraper, but that's just me. Probably won't put me off buying it when it's released.CobraX said:So your willing to accept an underwater city, but a city in the clouds, now that's just too much?wooty said:From the depths of the sea to .........a flying city?
Is the Bioshock franchise really grasping at straws already?
Anyways, it looks good. I look forward to what they do with the unique setting and where the story goes. However I do have 2 concerns:
1 - That new Big Daddy has a human heart in him. I really hope they don't pull some BS where a older character like Andrew Ryan has been rebuilt as a big daddy that would just be lame.
2 - The synopsis on the site says the game will involve saving a little girl from the city and forming a bond with her....sounds a bit too much like Bioshock 2's story to me.
I look forward to this game and seeing more footage of it.
Well, on the website and in an interview they say Bioshock: Infinite is set in 1912.wooty said:To be honest I'd personally say that an underwater city is more belivable than a floating skyscraper, but that's just me. Probably won't put me off buying it when it's released.CobraX said:So your willing to accept an underwater city, but a city in the clouds, now that's just too much?wooty said:From the depths of the sea to .........a flying city?
Is the Bioshock franchise really grasping at straws already?
Anyways, it looks good. I look forward to what they do with the unique setting and where the story goes. However I do have 2 concerns:
1 - That new Big Daddy has a human heart in him. I really hope they don't pull some BS where a older character like Andrew Ryan has been rebuilt as a big daddy that would just be lame.
2 - The synopsis on the site says the game will involve saving a little girl from the city and forming a bond with her....sounds a bit too much like Bioshock 2's story to me.
I look forward to this game and seeing more footage of it.
I also don't think that an older character will be brought back, BS was set in 50's if I remember, and there's a statue in the trailer for infinite that says 1892 (or close to it), whether that's just a statue or when the game is set, only time will tell
she isnt a little girl anymore. it said she was imprisoned since she was a little girl, she is fully grown now. Also she has telekenisis so thats new. (didnt play B2 but I assume the little girl didn't have telekenisis.)CobraX said:So your willing to accept an underwater city, but a city in the clouds, now that's just too much?wooty said:From the depths of the sea to .........a flying city?
Is the Bioshock franchise really grasping at straws already?
Anyways, it looks good. I look forward to what they do with the unique setting and where the story goes. However I do have 2 concerns:
1 - That new Big Daddy has a human heart in him. I really hope they don't pull some BS where a older character like Andrew Ryan has been rebuilt as a big daddy that would just be lame.
2 - The synopsis on the site says the game will involve saving a little girl from the city and forming a bond with her....sounds a bit too much like Bioshock 2's story to me.
I look forward to this game and seeing more footage of it.
It's a prequel, there will be no revivals of older characters. And something tells me it isn't a "Big Daddy" kind of villain. It seems like there might only be that one, in which case it might be a major villain in the game, as opposed to the 'basic enemy' flavor that Big Daddies tend to be coated with.CobraX said:1 - That new Big Daddy has a human heart in him. I really hope they don't pull some BS where a older character like Andrew Ryan has been rebuilt as a big daddy that would just be lame.