BioWare Defends Mass Effect 3 Launch-Day DLC

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Richardplex said:
Daystar Clarion said:
animehermit said:
So it looks like Zeel only got a 14 day suspension. Only 14 days mods? Really?
Don't worry, he'll be back in time to tell us how bad ME3 is, and how stupid we all are.

He'll have one more dance before the permaban.
If it isn't a duet with EternalNothingness I am going to be so disappointed.
Let's make it go out with a bang and make it a 3 some combo with Danyal
 

SajuukKhar

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Ohh man, ive been reading Zeel's blog

He has gotten banned from like 8 different Ragnarok Online private Server's forums and he doesn't seem to get why calling the GM of the forums a
"homo"
should get him banned.
 

OniaPL

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Why are people still raging about this? I am more upset about Bioware's announcement about the Arrival- like DLC that would let you meet a friendly Reaper that would join your cause. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ&ob=av3e] That breaks the lore so badly... Bioware's really going too far.

I just wish that Dragon Age 3 will be decent.
 

SajuukKhar

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OniaPL said:
Why are people still raging about this? I am more upset about Bioware's announcement about the Arrival- like DLC that would let you meet a friendly Reaper that would join your cause. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ&ob=av3e] That breaks the lore so badly... Bioware's really going too far.

I just wish that Dragon Age 3 will be decent.
I applaud your link.
 

Richardplex

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OniaPL said:
Why are people still raging about this? I am more upset about Bioware's announcement about the Arrival- like DLC that would let you meet a friendly Reaper that would join your cause. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ&ob=av3e] That breaks the lore so badly... Bioware's really going too far.

I just wish that Dragon Age 3 will be decent.
Well played.

D Moness said:
Richardplex said:
Daystar Clarion said:
animehermit said:
So it looks like Zeel only got a 14 day suspension. Only 14 days mods? Really?
Don't worry, he'll be back in time to tell us how bad ME3 is, and how stupid we all are.

He'll have one more dance before the permaban.
If it isn't a duet with EternalNothingness I am going to be so disappointed.
Let's make it go out with a bang and make it a 3 some combo with Danyal
I'm afraid I don't know him. The religion and politics threads I imagine to be this thread all the time, only with less ME subbed pictures that make me laugh. Probably a wrong opinion, but I stay the hell away from there.
Daystar Clarion said:
Richardplex said:
Daystar Clarion said:
animehermit said:
So it looks like Zeel only got a 14 day suspension. Only 14 days mods? Really?
Don't worry, he'll be back in time to tell us how bad ME3 is, and how stupid we all are.

He'll have one more dance before the permaban.
If it isn't a duet with EternalNothingness I am going to be so disappointed.
It will be a battle for the ages, so epic in it's scale, that this world and all other possible worlds will be torn asunder, the very fabric of time itself will collapse, and all shall reside in a dark oblivion.
I assume we shall be part of the battle, all badly dressed as batman, Gotham City Imposters style?
 
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Richardplex said:
I assume we shall be part of the battle, all badly dressed as batman, Gotham City Imposters style?
Pfft, my outfit is the real deal, my mum made it especially for just such an occasion.
 

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I guess you didn't see my previous post and don't know exactly where I stand on these whole thing. Don't blame you really - this thread is more than a thousand posts deep...
But let me try to clarify a few things, with the risk of repeating myself:

Zachary Amaranth said:
Keep in mind, the reason this discussion started was someone saying that no story content was good, and backing that up. That means that, for the intents and purposes of my prior comment, it doesn't matter if it's Day 1 DLC or not.
Some people in the thread are saying that the DLC story is good, not me. The thread is about Bioware justifying the From Ashes DLC. I don?t know if the content is good or bad as I haven?t seen it.

Zachary Amaranth said:
"Held" is such an iffy term.
It sure is. It is completely subjective and a matter of opinion. That?s the reason some people are pissed about it and some don?t. But when the content is about gameplay (good or bad), it does not take a master degree in psychology to foresee that some people will be upset about it.

Zachary Amaranth said:
This is bonus content for the people who paid extra for a special edition. The reason you can buy it is so you don't lose out if you didn't buy the special edition.
The reason you can buy it is for EA to make money. If they were worried that I didn?t lose content, they would release it for free. I know ?it costs money to develop?, but Zaheed also cost money and the extended edition of The Witcher 2 also costs money, both were free.

If EA is trying to be nice they are very bad at it. The gameplay content shouldn?t be part of the collector?s edition. I said it before: CE is about collectibles (keychains, fluffy armor, etc), not gameplay. Putting gameplay in the CE is great to promote it and terrible to build good will with costumers.

I do not think I deserve the DLC content for free. It is their game and EA can do whatever they want with it. The sex analogy wasn?t judgmental but YOU seem to think that anyone who goes for sex on the first day is a slut, I did not suggest such thing: there are people that go for it and there are people that do not ? the point is that, whichever the case, it is still sex, meaning: EA is still after your money with DLC, in this case they tried to sell it to us earlier than they used to ? some were ok with it, some don?t. If enough people are OK with it they will probably try to push it a little harder in the future (you gotta love sex analogies).

There is such a thing as a social contract in every economic relationship. There are a lot of things that consumers expect both explicitly and implicitly every time we reach for our wallets. That?s the reason why that same content offered in different circumstances wouldn?t start such a ruckus.

Zachary Amaranth said:
How would you feel if this really was limited edition content? If the only way to get the content was to be one of the pre-orderers of the Collector's Edition? And since it's already sold out, tough luck if you want the bonus content.
Seriously, how is that better? It's certainly less of a cash grab, so logically, it should be an improvement.
I never questioned the decision to make it available for the public since the CE is sold out. I questioned the decision to put it on the CE to begin with. Not because I think I?m entitled to anything, mind you, but because I think it is just cash grab and they could be smarter about this. Look at this thread and all the irrational arguments been thrown willy nilly, look at all the pre-orders cancelled talk (even if they are not real). EA was coming from a bad situation with the whole Dragon Age 2 thing, do you really thing the smarter thing to do is go to the easy cash strategy?

Well, maybe this will pay off in terms of money for them, but I really think that a more friendly approach would have been even better, both in short and long term.

In any case, I guess that every fan has the right to be angry about it, post in the forums to their hearts content and not buying the game or the DLC ? change rarely comes from this, but when it does it is very nice.
That said, the discussion with Zeel is a whole different, parallel story, that I?m not interested to be part of.
 

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I for one would like to see Zeel and The Cool Kid have a conversation.

It'd be like the unstoppable force meeting the immovable object.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
Richardplex said:
I assume we shall be part of the battle, all badly dressed as batman, Gotham City Imposters style?
Pfft, my outfit is the real deal, my mum made it especially for just such an occasion.
What was this occasion? "Just in case 2 infamous insane people join powers and try and destroy the world/internet/reason, I made you a batman costume so you can get sidetracked by riddler trophies"? I wish my mum was that cool. She just gave me a bunch a junk and told me I could be anything I wanted. So by day I wear a box and by night I wear a bin-bag. True story.
 
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Richardplex said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Richardplex said:
I assume we shall be part of the battle, all badly dressed as batman, Gotham City Imposters style?
Pfft, my outfit is the real deal, my mum made it especially for just such an occasion.
What was this occasion? "Just in case 2 infamous insane people join powers and try and destroy the world/internet/reason, I made you a batman costume so you can get sidetracked by riddler trophies"? I wish my mum was that cool. She just gave me a bunch a junk and told me I could be anything I wanted. So by day I wear a box and by night I wear a bin-bag. True story.
That's about right :D

My mum's a classy lady.
 

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anthony87 said:
I for one would like to see Zeel and The Cool Kid have a conversation.

It'd be like the unstoppable force meeting the immovable object.
But if they were to meet it might cause............. INSTRUMENTALITY

 

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Sandytimeman said:
I know I'm going to sound very hipster on this...but I really enjoy not buying AAA titles anymore. They just nickel and dime us more, they become part of these heartless ginormous publishers like EA or Activision. Better to buy Indie and save yourself the heart ache of getting fucked on DLC.
Not all AAA is that bad. Take Skyrim for instance, it's been out a bit over 3 months and has had a free texture pack DLC and a free CK release, absolutely no paid DLC created before release, no in-game bonuses to collectors editions or preorders or anything. If you bought the game, you got the full game. No exceptions.
 

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Basically what this is going to come down to sometime next week is basically what happened with the multiplayer. "OMGNOES NO MULTIPLAYER BAD EVIL BIOWARE DEVIL SATAN FAIL". then they played it "Hey, you know, it's not that bad." Probably about the same as what's going to happen with this DLC
 

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anthony87 said:
I for one would like to see Zeel and The Cool Kid have a conversation.

It'd be like the unstoppable force meeting the immovable object.
Lol they would probably agree with each other.
 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri0vrJ-y2zM

This guy can explain this much better than anyone here. I agree with him entirely, simply because he's 100% right. I would've been fine with this as long as the DLC was entirely aesthetic, but it's not, and the game hasn't even been released yet, also, the price of the DLC is 1/5, maybe less of the full game, so it should contain that much imo.
 

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Hey you know if this was released a month after release everyone would be fine with it. But for some reason because it was released at launch everyone is in an uproar. You can't afford it right now then don't buy it right now wait a while.
 

SajuukKhar

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HalfBakedCheeto said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri0vrJ-y2zM

This guy can explain this much better than anyone here. I agree with him entirely, simply because he's 100% right. I would've been fine with this as long as the DLC was entirely aesthetic, but it's not, and the game hasn't even been released yet, also, the price of the DLC is 1/5, maybe less of the full game, so it should contain that much imo.
The thing is that TotalBiscut's video has been torn to shreds time and time again.

He is wrong, almost 100% so.
 

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1300 posts Jesus H christ. People, you do realize that after I post this we only need around 40 more posts to get this thread on the hottest thread of the year list and then it will NEVER die...I probably didn't help just now. I need to talk about something on topic now....uh...if you hate the DLC so much then just don't buy it, it has around just as much importance as Lair of the Shadow broker, and why does it being developed alongside the game make it bad?

Released 2 months after full game = acceptable

Released at launch = unforgivable

I don't follow.

Also I like TotalBiscuit but he's not infallible.