Bioware forums explode as Mass Effect 3 ending details are leaked. *MINOR SPOILERS*
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Honestly this pisses me off more than anything, and considering that it seems Tali fans vastly outnumber all other fans combined, I sense a shitstorm of epic proportions that has not even yet begun to rear it's ugly head.Canadish said:
I read the spoiler link and ya know what.. I didnt really feel as if Bioware would do that. Though I do know, but if it's true, it better be a
situation if ya know what I mean!
"Noah's Ark"
Kind of glad that the lack of Steam availability already got me to bail out from this purchase.
I knew after ME2 that the next game would likely suffer from the same poor writing the first sequel suffered.
I knew after ME2 that the next game would likely suffer from the same poor writing the first sequel suffered.
I agree with most of what you stated except this, your actions do not matter for the endgame, no matter who lives or who dies, the relays get fucked.NinjaDeathSlap said:
Even if the repears had survived to continue the cycle of extinction, the Relays getting fucked prevent them from ever carrying it out ever again.
If you kill the reapers and everyone dies, the next cycle will not have relays.
If you control the reapears and send them back, The Galaxy still has no relays.
If you merge with the Reapers and uplift all species, then you still have to rebuild the Relays.
Do you understand now?
Luckily Paddlefish seem to be the Key for a True Happy ending, so I hope you bought them for 8k credits in ME2 and had them survive till the end of the game, for the import.
If Liara survives ....PingoBlack said:
Dude, Earth is such a Tiny piece of the equation its not even worth mentioning, and it isnt even the reason why people are pissed at the ending.Blobpie said:
Yes, because destroying the relay automatically negates the fact that you can kill off entire species, cure the genophage for the Krogans, reclaim the Quarrian home-world, letting the Rachnai live, etc. etc.?boag said:
Just because you don't get a little pop-up message like in BG or DA saying
"The quarrians lived happily on their reclaimed homeworld yada yada"
doesn't mean that many bigger actions will affect the galactic map for some time even if the relays are destroyed.
The Relays are incredibly important to the function of the mass effect universe. Because of that, the effects of the bigger actions (that Shepard made) won't be seen for at least another 1000+ years. Your choices were pointless in the end.
1.- its relays, all of the relaysSajuukKhar said:
2.- in the end game it doesnt even matter if you kill or save any species, because at long term their possibility of survival will be determined if they can be self sufficient. Something you will have no hand in, your decisions matter jack shit. In the end all the species become closed off from each other, you no longer know nor care what happens to the others because you will have no interaction with them again.
Lastly what big decisions will affect the Galactic map at all?
Say the Krogans start wanting to rape and pillage the galaxy after the Genophage is cured.
Its no longer an issue because they cant go anywhere.
Geth wants to exterminate all life, no relays so its going to take a heck of a long time for them to do anything.
you see where im going with this?
They could have easily made the ending be impacted by a key decision you made all the way back in ME1.
Rachni.
They still owe Shepard a great deal and do not need mass relays, which means there is no reason a happy ending is possible.
Unless the Rachni attempt to become the new galactic overlords.
But then again I might be wrong and all the Rachni might very well drop dead in the first minute of ME3.
Rachni.
They still owe Shepard a great deal and do not need mass relays, which means there is no reason a happy ending is possible.
Unless the Rachni attempt to become the new galactic overlords.
But then again I might be wrong and all the Rachni might very well drop dead in the first minute of ME3.
Random thought of five -- 'leaked' content does not necessarily constitute 'all' of the content, unless it's verified and stated. One thing I've noticed is BioWare has come out very quiet about this, and the fact someone mentioned that the 'good' endings, the genuinely good endings will show once the game is officially patched and released. Given the patch already set to land? Yeah.
I remember someone saying that the fans have been pretty terrible, and after seeing the ravenous hordes on both sides (the ones who go 'lolol biodrones' and the ones who get too much of a ragefit over RUINED FOREVER.. yeah. Just. Yeah) I applaud BioWare for this unintended or perhaps intended slugging.
I remember someone saying that the fans have been pretty terrible, and after seeing the ravenous hordes on both sides (the ones who go 'lolol biodrones' and the ones who get too much of a ragefit over RUINED FOREVER.. yeah. Just. Yeah) I applaud BioWare for this unintended or perhaps intended slugging.
I only just in the past month or two played Mass Effect and ME2...but the way things looked at the end of 2, I honestly dont see how an overall positive ending is even possible...point blank (without knowing the specifics) i get the vibe that trillions die in the process and even then the reapers will still probably win. V____V
There's one thing everyone seems to be forgetting - the ME universe has unassisted FTL travel - and it's pretty damn fast, 12 lightyears per day. Sure, you have to plan your route pretty damn carefully, so you don't run out of fuel and have plenty of planets to get rid of the static charge, but it's still far from "confined to the local system". Unless of course they destroy all mass effect technology (which is all technology), but it's a whole other level of dark age-ry.
Don't worry about that.Buzzkillington said:
The rachni come back in ME3 regardless of your ME1 decision, but if you have saved the queen, they will be friendly. If you didn't, it's a different queen. I don't know if NOT saving the rachni queen has any benefits to it.
I won't lie. Day one DLC, Chobot, CE nonsense, decisions barely amounting to more than an "email" on ME2, now this... which I've really been trying to avoid finding out about anyway.... my butt was hurt, but now I just feel numb about the whole thing.
From a literary standpoint, knowing only what I do (if true), this is a massive disappointment. I don't expect an epic yarn with an epic end, but an ending like this only proves how invalid a story really can be to a series, however good, the severity of the ending and what it means only punctuated further by virtue of this being a role-playing game, a genre that is generally highly story-driven (pr at least more so than most other genres).
I really feel slapped, but I just can't bring myself to care anymore.
From a literary standpoint, knowing only what I do (if true), this is a massive disappointment. I don't expect an epic yarn with an epic end, but an ending like this only proves how invalid a story really can be to a series, however good, the severity of the ending and what it means only punctuated further by virtue of this being a role-playing game, a genre that is generally highly story-driven (pr at least more so than most other genres).
I really feel slapped, but I just can't bring myself to care anymore.
Buzzkillington said:
From what I've heard attempting to save the "other" Queen which is evil, indoctrinated and created by the Reapers leads to the player being majorly stabbed in the back for their misplaced trust.
Actually, no it's not. Also, firing back at detractors with a comment chalk full of stupid doesn't make your stance any more concrete. Honestly, I could give a flying frick about the chick with the Mask or the "Hawt" blue alien transgender woman. *This* is why BioWare has ****'ed the fanbase:Waaghpowa said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyGvA5Qre5Y&context=C36e3c9aADOEgsToPDskKHk6nfuVgWgHu-Ml94HsY8
If you want to do the whole Greek Tragedy thing. Fine. However, don't give me some pretentious half-ass The Matrix Revolutions, BSG, and Lost rip-off ending and tell me that was how this was all supposed to come together in the end. ME1-ME2 was a heroic science fiction space opera (i.e. Star Wars) where those willing to work hard for it got an ending that matched up with how they played the game. Pulling endings like the one in the link, or even ****'ing retarded plot devices, out of one's ass completely negating everything you've done up to that point is a blatant bend over with out even the courtesy of a reach around and all because the game's lead writer wanted to try for an Oscar with some bullshit Art-House film, bullshit quasi philosophical ending. *That* is why the forums exploded, not your lame "Ah look at da nerdz" pun.