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Yagharek

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Sadly, there's no way they're going to fix all the things-in fact, just looking at what's already been released, no chance. However, hypothetically:

-Fix the secondary weapons. Remember gaz in Cod4, saying that the point of a secondary weapon is so that you can switch to it faster than reloading? Not with shotguns. Secondary weapons should be pistols and knife only. Making it so that people can have a great long range weapon as well as the best pure CQB weapon in the game is ridiculous. Machine pistols are also too strong(particularly the Raffika, which is basically an M16 at close range) to be secondary weapons.

-Fix the perks. Personally, I'm against the "pro" perks. Well, or rather, some of them. I like the idea of upgradeable perks, but think the upgrades shouldn't be just giving you a second perk. The upgrades shouldn't be as good as they are. Stuff like no falling damage is almostngood enough that you could make it a seperate perk. Maybe even consider removing Stopping power. If that wasn't in the game, and there were a couple of the good perks there instead(scavenger and sleight of hand) so everyone didn't pick UAV jam...It'd be nice if there wasn't the sort of "default" class that we see. It'd also mean classes like stealth classes could compete a bit better head to head-though you're doing it kind of wrong if you need to.

Fix the killstreaks. I'd like to see a return of, at least, UAV being compulsory. I'd also like if stuff like the chopper wasn't in the game at all, and they were all controlled(like the airstrike). Helis can last a bit too long. I'd prefer one use stuff, that doens't harvest kills without the person doing anything.

Fix the balance. Snipers are probably the most obvious case here. I don't think gravity is the answer. BFBC2 players talk about how great it is, but having played BFBC2, I don't really think it'd make a difference in a Cod game. Most quickscopes are close range enough that it wouldn't matter. Removing SP would help here. They shouldn't fire as fast either(save the semi autos. This is more referring to Cod4, and the speed of the M40). Burst fire guns have always been a bit OP. They're really common on cod4 because they're such a fast kill, and not really harder than any other gun. A little practise is all it takes, like everything else. How difficult it is to use doesn't match how good it is, which it should. Removing SP would again solve this. I'm sort of in favour of slightly slower kills, since there's hardcore anyway. Pistols could maybe do with a bit of a nerf. In cod4, the desert eagle is a 2 hit kill with stopping power(again, removing would help). With a clip of 7(I think), and with it being easy to spam quickly, you can kill people with it pretty damn quickly, without actually aiming. I don't think secondaries should be very good, and think that to beat a guy with an assault rifle, you should have to be real good with a pistol-fast, and accurate.

-Fix the LAN. To my knowledge, in World at War, you can play splitscreen on one console. However, if you play over 2, you can still only paly 2 player. Being able to connect 2 consoles and play splitscreen on both for 4 player woudl be nice.

The list is large. And let's be frank, it's not going to happen.

And sadly, they can't fix the community, and that could really do with being better...
 

sooperman

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Yagharek said:
Maybe even consider removing Stopping power.
Maybe consider? It shouldn't have made it into CoD4, let alone the sequels. I understand that noobs want a boost to their kills, but why not use actual balance instead of cheap tricks?
MiracleOfSound said:
sooperman said:
Hay guise, the teaser says "Multiplayer reveal". Do you think this means there will be a beta tomorrow?
I doubt it.
Damn. Oh well. The beta to MoH wasn't anything special, though, so maybe no loss.
 

MiracleOfSound

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sooperman said:
Yagharek said:
Maybe even consider removing Stopping power.
Maybe consider? It shouldn't have made it into CoD4, let alone the sequels. I understand that noobs want a boost to their kills, but why not use actual balance instead of cheap tricks?
MiracleOfSound said:
sooperman said:
Hay guise, the teaser says "Multiplayer reveal". Do you think this means there will be a beta tomorrow?
I doubt it.
Damn. Oh well. The beta to MoH wasn't anything special, though, so maybe no loss.
Oh I think there'll be a Beta alright, just not yet.

And yeah the Medal Of Honour beta sucked.
 

Dango

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Full co-op for the campaign missions, something that every game needs.
 

Ashsaver

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These are some of my wish lists

-Bots for practicing offline.
-Official Modding tools like the SDK
-Traditional server browser instead of automated matchmaking service.
-Every Buttons are remappable (For Consoles) instead of choosing control scheme.
-Hats!
-Lan!
-Less railway shooting gallery on SP. (Like when you're on a Black hawk or a Humvee)
-Old School mode for MP,you know,the fun stuffs:like in Quake 1-3
-Freebies: No more "pay for your maps" new maps should be included with the game update,but hey,Treyarch is still working for Activision so this is less likely.
 

Hiphophippo

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Sooo...basically it's the exact same as every other big budget AAA fps game released since the first Modern Warfare. Ok.
 

RazaxWoot

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they mean you have to use your kill streaks before you get another one or else you lose the first one, like in cod 4
 

blankedboy

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I've never played a CoD game, I have 4 and 5 installed but I haven't played them yet.
Me and my friends are all preordering this, I hope it's a good place to start...
 

shootthebandit

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MiracleOfSound said:
Zannah said:
Melee IS worthless against guns, that is until you, the guy with the gun, let the run right up to you.

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I disagree:

this video raises an intersting issue, you see how far he leaps forward. with a tac knife, marathon and lightweight this will be multiplied even more and you see guys fly around the map and you blast them but they just sponge it all up and knife you.

these guys are worse than noobtube, one man army spammers
 

shootthebandit

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Yagharek said:
Sadly, there's no way they're going to fix all the things-in fact, just looking at what's already been released, no chance. However, hypothetically:

-Fix the secondary weapons. Remember gaz in Cod4, saying that the point of a secondary weapon is so that you can switch to it faster than reloading? Not with shotguns. Secondary weapons should be pistols and knife only. Making it so that people can have a great long range weapon as well as the best pure CQB weapon in the game is ridiculous. Machine pistols are also too strong(particularly the Raffika, which is basically an M16 at close range) to be secondary weapons.

-Fix the perks. Personally, I'm against the "pro" perks. Well, or rather, some of them. I like the idea of upgradeable perks, but think the upgrades shouldn't be just giving you a second perk. The upgrades shouldn't be as good as they are. Stuff like no falling damage is almostngood enough that you could make it a seperate perk. Maybe even consider removing Stopping power. If that wasn't in the game, and there were a couple of the good perks there instead(scavenger and sleight of hand) so everyone didn't pick UAV jam...It'd be nice if there wasn't the sort of "default" class that we see. It'd also mean classes like stealth classes could compete a bit better head to head-though you're doing it kind of wrong if you need to.

Fix the killstreaks. I'd like to see a return of, at least, UAV being compulsory. I'd also like if stuff like the chopper wasn't in the game at all, and they were all controlled(like the airstrike). Helis can last a bit too long. I'd prefer one use stuff, that doens't harvest kills without the person doing anything.

Fix the balance. Snipers are probably the most obvious case here. I don't think gravity is the answer. BFBC2 players talk about how great it is, but having played BFBC2, I don't really think it'd make a difference in a Cod game. Most quickscopes are close range enough that it wouldn't matter. Removing SP would help here. They shouldn't fire as fast either(save the semi autos. This is more referring to Cod4, and the speed of the M40). Burst fire guns have always been a bit OP. They're really common on cod4 because they're such a fast kill, and not really harder than any other gun. A little practise is all it takes, like everything else. How difficult it is to use doesn't match how good it is, which it should. Removing SP would again solve this. I'm sort of in favour of slightly slower kills, since there's hardcore anyway. Pistols could maybe do with a bit of a nerf. In cod4, the desert eagle is a 2 hit kill with stopping power(again, removing would help). With a clip of 7(I think), and with it being easy to spam quickly, you can kill people with it pretty damn quickly, without actually aiming. I don't think secondaries should be very good, and think that to beat a guy with an assault rifle, you should have to be real good with a pistol-fast, and accurate.

-Fix the LAN. To my knowledge, in World at War, you can play splitscreen on one console. However, if you play over 2, you can still only paly 2 player. Being able to connect 2 consoles and play splitscreen on both for 4 player woudl be nice.

The list is large. And let's be frank, it's not going to happen.

And sadly, they can't fix the community, and that could really do with being better...
i dont see the problem with SP, i used it exclusivly with the FAL and dropped people with an average of 2 hits

i dont think its that bad, if you are going to use SP just be aware that you will appear on my UAV and i will use my cold blood, silencer and ninja to hunt you down.

you see there is a trade-off between perks, apart from the green ones which is always ninja
 

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ianrocks6495 said:
Tune the explosives'power way down. No grenade spam like in COD4, no Noobtubing like in MW2.
Why tune the explosives power down? You do realize they are explosives in that when they explode you are supposed to die, why should they tune down their power?

What they should do is have something that limits the amount of people in 1 team that can use the noobtube like in a 5v5 lobby only 2 people on each team can use the noobtube
 

shootthebandit

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ReaperzXIII said:
ianrocks6495 said:
Tune the explosives'power way down. No grenade spam like in COD4, no Noobtubing like in MW2.
Why tune the explosives power down? You do realize they are explosives in that when they explode you are supposed to die, why should they tune down their power?

What they should do is have something that limits the amount of people in 1 team that can use the noobtube like in a 5v5 lobby only 2 people on each team can use the noobtube
why dont the MAKE everyone with a noobtube carry a flag with the SPAM logo on it and also give them that red triangle that says KILL on your minimap like when someone has a flag
 

captaincabbage

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I've gotta say, this is the first CoD game to actually appeal to me, definitely the first I;m buying. It was always a case of good features that I liked and other features I found a bit 'meh', but this has every feature I've liked in previous versions rolled into one.
Zombie Mode.
Splitscreen multiplayer.
Spec-Ops. (I read at a lot of places thay're including it)
Fun campaign.
Seperate co-op campaign.
And now they include gems like customizable characters and guns? What more could I want?

btw, what is Theatre Mode? forgive my n00bishness
 

shootthebandit

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captaincabbage said:
I've gotta say, this is the first CoD game to actually appeal to me, definitely the first I;m buying. It was always a case of good features that I liked and other features I found a bit 'meh', but this has every feature I've liked in previous versions rolled into one.
Zombie Mode.
Splitscreen multiplayer.
Spec-Ops. (I read at a lot of places thay're including it)
Fun campaign.
Seperate co-op campaign.
And now they include gems like customizable characters and guns? What more could I want?

btw, what is Theatre Mode? forgive my n00bishness
im not quite sure myself but i believe its when youve finished playing a game online you can go back and watch in 3rd person or from a number of view point and you can record it and save to your HDD
 

captaincabbage

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Ashsaver said:
These are some of my wish lists

-Bots for practicing offline.
-Official Modding tools like the SDK
-Traditional server browser instead of automated matchmaking service.
-Every Buttons are remappable (For Consoles) instead of choosing control scheme.
-Hats!
-Lan!
-Less railway shooting gallery on SP. (Like when you're on a Black hawk or a Humvee)
-Old School mode for MP,you know,the fun stuffs:like in Quake 1-3
-Freebies: No more "pay for your maps" new maps should be included with the game update,but hey,Treyarch is still working for Activision so this is less likely.
Okay, Im gonna go ahead and say it, This is probably the perfect wishlist. Especially the offline bots, since I'm not interested in online multiplayer, I'd only really play with my friend splitscreen. Having bots in splitscreen matches would be excellent too.
 

captaincabbage

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shootthebandit said:
captaincabbage said:
I've gotta say, this is the first CoD game to actually appeal to me, definitely the first I;m buying. It was always a case of good features that I liked and other features I found a bit 'meh', but this has every feature I've liked in previous versions rolled into one.
Zombie Mode.
Splitscreen multiplayer.
Spec-Ops. (I read at a lot of places thay're including it)
Fun campaign.
Seperate co-op campaign.
And now they include gems like customizable characters and guns? What more could I want?

btw, what is Theatre Mode? forgive my n00bishness
im not quite sure myself but i believe its when youve finished playing a game online you can go back and watch in 3rd person or from a number of view point and you can record it and save to your HDD
alrighty then. It sounds pretty meh, something only massive wieners/13 year olds would use. "OMG Dude U gotta seE this sUpaH EpiC kil 1 got 0n This toal N00b! I PWned him so bad!! lolololololololololololololol"

lol thanks for the info btw ;P
 

MiracleOfSound

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superbatranger said:
I'm a bit lost. What do they mean by non-stackable killstreak?
It means your predator won't earn you a Harrier and your Harrier won't earn you a pave Low... you'll have to get the extra kills with your gun to get the next killstreak.