Black Ops rage... welcome to the next year of your life.

[Xyliss]

The chopper gunner...fair enough, its a small map, need to get 11 kills...fine.

The quickscoping though...hrr.

See, I did it because I had a really fun time doing it, and it was challenging and satisfying for me. Cod4 did it right, and I'm pretty upset they ruined it completely:/.

I'll see how it is when I pick the game up...eventually. But atm...this does not look good D:

But seriously, why the beef?
People have fun playing the game in different ways, it doesn't mean their wrong for playing like that?

Games are for people to have fun, and I talk on behalf of the quickscoping community when I say...that's how we have fun. Going around with a TAR-21 silenced with predator, harrier and chopper gunner is just boring for me...doesn't mean you guys that find that enjoyable should get so defensive and aggy.

Chill out guys, it's just a game -___________-'' and don't pass judgement until you've played it.

ugh.

Eeeeexactly!

Although I do find quickscoping REALLY frustrating(I don't do it myself), it's how some people prefer to play so I can't complain. Though the insults/taunts are the worst part. (Not the funny banter which occasionally happens, the really annoying 12 year old spoilt brat calling everyone noobs)

Glad to see you can understand what I'm on about:].
But yeah, I agree with you on that. I mean, I'd be a hypocrite if I was to say 'only over 18's should play the game', but I think that if young kids do play, they should at least show courtesy to their opponents...urgh they make me rage. 'Hardscope F****t' is the most pathetic 'insult', since you are supposed to 'hardscope' with a sniper.

HRRRR THEY MAKETH ME MAD.

But yeah, thanks for supporting meh

Yea, everybody should show some courtesy towards their opponents. And exactly, the whole point of a snipe is to 'hardscope' to get the silen kills from 300 yards away, not the insta-kill from close range.

 

[Piflik]

That's the point I'm making. But you seem to think that "quick scoping" is balanced and therefore fun, which Treyarch seems to disagree with (as well as I).

Also, "most people" and "I" are not synonymous, unless you can find some sort of statistic.

You're very wrong there.

I have never quickscoped in my life. I hate quickscoping, and I never even use Sniper Rifles because I'm terrible with them.

My point is that the guns seem to have been nerfed to the point where they will be completely ineffective and redundant, which to me is unbalanced.

Do you even know what 'redundant' means? The guy in your video is trying to use the sniper rifle like an assault rifle or shotgun and now your complaining that that doesn't work anymore, calling it redundant? It is exactly the opposite. A sniper rifle is a long range weapon and using it on that map is stupid in itself, but going toe-to-toe with your opponent with it is even stupider. Running around with a sniper rifle, 'aiming' for a second and then taking a shot at point-blank range is as guaranteed to score a hit as shooting a revolver from the hip...and I mean literally from the hip...with your arms dangling down your sides and using only your wrist to 'aim' the gun...maybe Roland Deschain can do it, but he might be the only one...

 

[mechanixis]

As I see it, the Call of Duty series as of Modern Warfare was never primarily about balance; it was always about continually wanking off the people who are better at it and letting them feel like kings, at the expense of the other players they're slaughtering. If you're already dominating the match, the games allow you to dominate it even more and basically sponsors an imbalanced and one-sided match. If you want a game where everyone actually gets a fair shake, I'd look at Rainbow Six Vegas, or Halo for that matter.

 

[Darchrow]

I was pretty sure a Chopper Gunner was no better during MW2 in fact, now you don't have stuff like nukes, I think a Chopper Gunner to a Nuke is a a lot worst than just a chopper gunner. Chopper gunners in MW2 was always hit or miss you could get like 20+kills on Wasteland/Rust/Scrapyard but the majority of the time when I'm using my chopper gunner it normally gets shot down by smart players who have an anti-air support load-out.

Not to mention that you have a 5 kill streak Surface to Air Missile that could take down the Chopper Gunner most likely in seconds (haven't seen someone used it yet).

 

[Tdc2182]

snip

It does seem shitty, but the Last stand perk in Black Ops is actually not to bad. You have a full second of animation after you get shot to the ground of you dropping, so you don't immediately pull out your pistol like in the other games.

Now watch this:

As for this, yeah.

Its completely ridiculous. At first I was a fan of them taking it out, but this is just plain stupid. Quickscoping in Cod4 was never a problem, albeit a little annoying if you had a bad connection.

But jeez, that is painful to watch. Sniping was something the series nearly had perfect.

Edit: keep in mind that the chopper is 9 consecutive kills without the aid of any other kill streak. Yes, still cheap, but it won't be as prevalent(?) as you think.

But as for why Care packages are in the game? That I will never understand. The Specialized weapons like the Grim Reaper and Minigun were cool ideas, but separate kill streaks is taking it to far.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

This is pretty damn funny:


The infamous FLOATING APPLE GLITCH!

A game breaker for sure.

 

[LightOfDarkness]

Quickscoping is not a problem.

Stupidly overpowered perks and killstreaks are the problem.
In CoD you get lucky with a grenade, you get a killstreak bonus.
That killstreak bonus gets you 3 other ones.
Wash, rinse and repeat.

In Team Fortress 2 you get lucky and get a crit.
Then you eat flames of fury and die in a blaze of glory or fall back to heal and continue the slaughter.
I guess random crits ARE sort of a killstreak system (the more damage you do, the higher your likelihood for a random crit for the next 2 minutes) but at least they're still random, so you can be incredibly unlucky and not get one throughout your life.

 

[Kinguendo]

You cant complain about something that only gets more than 1 or 2 kills by luck... come on. If you get caught by a throwing knife that was lobbed over a building, you dont ***** and moan when you see it. Also, the things that I found to be problems were knifing and quick scoping... and drop shoting.

 

[8-Bit Grin]

... So if we all agree that Call of Duty 4 was the best in the series, why not go back and play it?

I can still find a match whenever I like on the PS3 iteration, and I'm sure this holds true for Live as well.

 

[jakefongloo]

Quickscoping isn't sniping, it's fucking ridiculous. This means people will have to actually snipe instead of treating it as a run and gun weapon.

This..mother fucking this
/BUMP
It's a multiplayer game and the key to a multiplayer game is balance where you're class has a strength or 2 and has a weakness or 2. The oh so "legendary" quick scopers have no weakness. They can rely on their skills up close and far away. Hell the m16 in the first cod 4 had a shitty hip fire, the mp40 in waw could be taken down by a sniper but there is no weakness to quickscoping, it's as effective as a shotgun is at close range and well... a sniper at far. As to the chopper gunner, meh take them out of carepackage selection and it will be fine, getting and 9 kill streak is going to be alot more infrequent now that kill streaks don't stack.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

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My philosophy with these games now is as follows: shut the fuck up and play, or shut the fuck up and play something else. Don't ***** about it. If it destroys you that much, you are pathetic.

Again with the rudeness.

It's amazing how COD brings out the worst in people.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Do you even know what 'redundant' means? The guy in your video is trying to use the sniper rifle like an assault rifle or shotgun and now your complaining that that doesn't work anymore, calling it redundant?

Please read the OP again, paying attention this time to the new sniping mechanic I mentioned.

 

[TimeLord]

I don't see a problem with anything in the OP. Sorry Miracle.

Quick scoping nerfed = Yay

Chopper Gunner too powerful = It's a tiny map, learn to hide

Dogs = They have big fucking teeth. It you can survive getting 2 chunks of your head ripped off by a dog. Give me a call.

Second Chance Pro = So it's like Final Stand? I don't see a problem.

RC Car = Luck is all it is. You can get killed while driving it so you can't go exploring the map with it!

 

[Mr. Socky]

I was concerned... then I remembered that both modding and dedicated servers are suported on PC, so the community will fix the problems at least. I'm certainly not buying it day one though.

 

[nofear220]

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Well I for one am glad that all the quickscopers and most snipers will just stay in mw2, snipers just dont fit into a game like CoD. They work like one hit kill assault rifles in CoD, which is just cheap. Sniping only works in a game like Battlefield, large open maps with lots of cover and there IS ACTUALLY BULLET DROP.. it takes more than just point and shoot to snipe. Also your comment about realism, since when has a game like CoD been realistic IN ANY SITUATION? Black ops is going to be great, although I bet the out burst of complaints will make them ruin it with a patch.

I actually don't care about realism at all, I'm with you on that one. It's just that people are arguing that this is how snipers in the game should be because 'it's more realistic'.

Then they should make assault rifles 1-2 hit kills as well, and completely take out killstreaks if they want realism...

 

[WrongSprite]

If he's sniping at a range that short, why can't he just pull the trigger? It's completely unnecessary to try and use the scope.

 

[Merkavar]

how is sniping redundant? i sniped in mw and mw2 and i never quick scoped and i got kills.

Because they have added in a mechanic that makes the sniper sway around (as if you just fired it) when you look down the sights.

I.e., when you scope in it flies all over the screen for a second and a half then settles, and even if your crosshairs are dead on the guy, your bullet won't hit him.

what kinda like you just aimed down the scope and are getting your gun settled? i feel this is a good move. snipers arent meant to run around the map like an assualt guy there meant to camp places. there meant to hard scope.

looks like it just means that you cant run around and snipe people like you have a 1 shot kill assualt rifle. boo freaking hoo

 

[Chad Brumfield]

If it's that much of an issue, then just don't buy the game. Vote with your wallet if you feel like this is going to not be worth the time. There have been things in every COD game that have frustrated people and that people felt weren't fair. If you're going to play the game, you're going to have to adjust. Otherwise, find something else to entertain yourself with. As someone else said, in the end, all the company cares about is making the money and they WILL make the money, because in the end all the complaints come down to one thing:

"I like your game but it is very, very hard." Welcome to PvP.