BLARGH! I IS EVIL!: Villains who were not well fleshed out

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Wildrow12

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MaxTheReaper said:
SebZero said:
Can't spin?!? Your empire will crumble in a matter of seconds!!!
I'll fund an evil government supersoldier program that will invent spinning bodyguards.
An army full of duplicates of Top Man from Mega Man 3?!

You fiend!
 

Emperorpeng

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canadamus_prime said:
I'm going to play the Devil's Advocate here and ask if any of you who are complaining have ever tired to come up with villain for story yourselves? 'Cause if not, I don't think you have the right to criticize. After all, I imagine these writers are under enough pressure as it is without us fans bitching. Again I'm reminded of what Yahtzee says ad-nausium, about fans being clinging complaining dipshits etc. etc.
I reserve my right to *****, thank you. Particularly when a character is wallbanger-tastic.

What's Bowser's deal, anyway? Why would he want to kidnap Princess Peach? We've all heard the theories (Bowser Jr. had to come from somewhere...), but nothing is ever expressly mentioned to motivate a giant turtle to kidnap one of five human characters in the Mushroom Kingdom.
 

lord canti

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I have to say slade from teen titans he was awesome but had the depth of a spoon. On a side note raito from deathnote is possibly the best villain evah.
 

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MaxTheReaper said:
I don't really have a choice, do I?
With guards that don't spin, I suppose not.

Can your best friend at least run fast enough to dodge bullets?
 

lord canti

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bad guy from lost oddyessy typical I want to take over the world for no paricular reason.
 

Del-Toro

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Here's my question: Why the fuck has nobody mentioned Sauron of Lord of the Rings fame. I mean, you knew he was evil, and kinda pieced together that he did bad things, but it's never expanded on as to why. He's the Dark Lord of Morder with armies of Orcs and Uruk-Hai as well as barbarians and such, but they never say why he is the way he is.
 

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Del-Toro said:
Here's my question: Why the fuck has nobody mentioned Sauron of Lord of the Rings fame. I mean, you knew he was evil, and kinda pieced together that he did bad things, but it's never expanded on as to why. He's the Dark Lord of Morder with armies of Orcs and Uruk-Hai as well as barbarians and such, but they never say why he is the way he is.
Other Tolken books actually explain his origins and motivations actually. I think it's the simirillion (is that right?) that explains more of who and what he is.
 

basic.acid

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i've always liked villains that really didnt seem all that "evil" or books where everyone is evil. its just more entertaining some times. writers like Glenn Cook and Joe Abercrombie have good characters that way.

also Jack of blades- crazy,brutal and vaguely disturbing = fun
i think all villains lose because the get to the brink of victory then see all the ass pain of actually ruling the world and decide its better to die
 

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Samuel_of_Saruan said:
Galbatorix from Eragon.

"Why would he do such a thing?"

"Because he is evil."

Yay for one-dimensional characters!

I mean, come on! The guy's never seen, and everyone says he's evil incarnate. For all we know he isn't!

Let's look at his evil deeds:

1, Kill the Dragon Riders.
So? They were 'corrupt and fought amongst themselves.' All he did was join in on the fun, be the best there is, and win. Now he's the bad guy and mad to boot? Riiiight.

2, The Empire is evil and bad, and war rages.
The war the REBELS STARTED. Without them, Galby could go and manage his Empire without distractions.

3, He killed dragons and enslaved them!
Comes with killing the dragon-riders. Why let that power go to waist when you can do some good with it after you slew them in a fit of madness. Seems pretty good to me, as would any normal human being.
did you just watch the horrible movie. because it explains it more in the books...
 

Canadamus Prime

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I'm just saying keep in mind that it's easy to sit back and *****, whine, and complain when you're not the one who has to tirelessly come up with new and interesting villains for the heroes to fight time and time again to please the endless hordes of unreleasable fans who're never happy no matter what you do, ie us.
 

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Samuel_of_Saruan said:
Galbatorix from Eragon.

"Why would he do such a thing?"

"Because he is evil."

Yay for one-dimensional characters!

I mean, come on! The guy's never seen, and everyone says he's evil incarnate. For all we know he isn't!

Let's look at his evil deeds:

1, Kill the Dragon Riders.
So? They were 'corrupt and fought amongst themselves.' All he did was join in on the fun, be the best there is, and win. Now he's the bad guy and mad to boot? Riiiight.

2, The Empire is evil and bad, and war rages.
The war the REBELS STARTED. Without them, Galby could go and manage his Empire without distractions.

3, He killed dragons and enslaved them!
Comes with killing the dragon-riders. Why let that power go to waist when you can do some good with it after you slew them in a fit of madness. Seems pretty good to me, as would any normal human being.
OK

1: He killed the Dragon Riders because they would not grant him a new dragon when his died so he used dark magic to make a Dragon his. The other Dragon Riders were not corrupt and didn't fight amongst themselves. He managed to get the For Swarm (or whatever the traitors are called) together and they killed all the Dragon Riders

2: After the war he took over Alagaesia and went after the elves and dwarfs. He had the Urgls and a shade (I believe) to spread terror across the land, killing people and using them to bring pain to the people.

3: He made the other Dragon Riders swear loyalty to him. You see once you kill the rider the dragon dies with it's rider so he couldn't have enslaved them. I don't know what you mean by enslaving them but like I said, when the rider dies the Dragon goes with him.
 

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The Joker, from the Dark Knight, he had no back story, the only 'Story' he had was a lie upon another lie, but that movie made over 600 million, and Heath Ledger's Joker is often times hailed as the best. So the story goes, that just because you know nothing about them, dosn't make them bad, in fact, sometimes that makes them downright frightning.

-This-is-Hip-Hop
 

MasterSqueak

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Team Rocket.

Jessie, James, and Meowth mostly.

Stop buying all of these giant robots and digging machines and just buy some food! Why are you even still in Team Rocket?! They all hate you!
 

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Mad Maniac with axe-firing chainsaw said:
The whole of Umbrella Corp. Why are you doing this? Since when did it seem like a good idea to research zombies?

"Yeah, we'll totally be able to turn a profit on killing half a city. Project approved. So, my fellow board members (yes-men) are we in agreement?"

"Yes!"

Makes you wonder who would want to work for umbrella. The job security (in all senses) must be terrible!
This. I love Resident Evil, but the motives for their power hungry, world domination ideals were just...terribad. I generally ignored it, and enjoyed shooting zombies.
 

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Necron from Final Fantasy IX. He just shows up out of nowhere and says "Bwahaha I'm the real final boss!" No mention of him beforehand whatsoever. Seems like he was just there because they felt like cramming in another boss fight. I still think Trance Kuja is the real final boss.
 

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Piorn said:
It doesn't matter what they do, 'Empires' are always evil.
Not the Napoleonic empire or the Souperplex empire.
 

lacktheknack

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The Government in Mirror's Edge.

It's not as vague as Yahtzee implies, but it is ridiculous for EVERY COP IN THE CITY to chase you down and shoot you.

Made some fun chases, though.
 

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At the moment I'm hating whoever the villan in 'Lost' is supposed to be.
Actually the fact its taken 5 seasons to maybe get to whoever the main protagonist is supposed to be,(Jacob),and we still are left clueless to the guys motives or history.