Blizzard Surprised by Reaction to Online-Only Diablo 3

[CowboyfromHell666]

I don't own a laptop or travel much, so I am not bugged by this one bit. The way I see it, if you were allowed to go offline, maybe some idiots would decide to do something that would give them all this gold or rare items that they could then sell on the online AH and make a huge profit off of.

 

[BGH122]

Wow, so he's both so arrogant that he thinks the disastrous concepts of his own company and its associates is equivalent to the entire industry:

it really is just the nature of how things are going, the nature of the industry.

and a liar:

"I don't think [DRM] ever came up when we talked about how we want connections to operate,"

Way to go Blizzard. If fans dislike your ideas in droves then tell them that they're the ones at fault. Congrats Blizzard, I may just be a single customer, but you've earned a spot on my boycott list.

 

[Epona]

I don't own a laptop or travel much, so I am not bugged by this one bit. The way I see it, if you were allowed to go offline, maybe some idiots would decide to do something that would give them all this gold or rare items that they could then sell on the online AH and make a huge profit off of.

Then you see it wrong. Your offline character wouldn't be the same character as your online character. This is not a new concept.

 

[Nesco Nomen]

I don't own a laptop or travel much, so I am not bugged by this one bit. The way I see it, if you were allowed to go offline, maybe some idiots would decide to do something that would give them all this gold or rare items that they could then sell on the online AH and make a huge profit off of.

For the myriads reasons - There is no way Blizzard would ever allow these OFFLINE characters to be taken ONLINE.

So in essence what all these "give us offline Single Play", are asking is that we ALL,
even those of us with working Internet Connection

have to have, equip, waste time and be dividied between two characters - one online and other for SP. Again NO CHANCE whatsoever - Blizzard is making this one a hugely integrated unique experience.

The only possible solution for all these "2 poor to spend 100kB of traffic per session" people

is to whine enough so Blizz makes a more complicated solution.
Where u have option to do Offline SP and create another character for Multi,
or u play as it is atm - all online.

And this would again compromise security and integrity of chars, and most likely ruin the game for the huge majority of us with a working Internet.

So what all these whinos who are asking OFFLINE for the pure whim should think about is:

Do I really want cheaters around me, just so I can run the Single Player OFFLINE.


B O T T O M L I N E:

If u whine enough, you may get an Offline Diablo 3. Only not in this life.

 

[Epona]

I don't own a laptop or travel much, so I am not bugged by this one bit. The way I see it, if you were allowed to go offline, maybe some idiots would decide to do something that would give them all this gold or rare items that they could then sell on the online AH and make a huge profit off of.

For the myriads reasons - There is no way Blizzard would ever allow these OFFLINE characters to be taken ONLINE.

So in essence what all these "give us offline Single Play", are asking is that we ALL,
even those of us with working Internet Connection

have to have, equip, waste time and be dividied between two characters - one online and other for SP. Again NO CHANCE whatsoever!

The only possible solution for all these "2 poor to spend 100kB of traffic per session" people

is to whine enough so Blizz makes a more complicated solution.
Where u have option to do Offline SP and create another character for Multi,
and another option where u have like it is atm - all online.

And this would again compromise security and integrity of chars, and most likely ruin the game for the Huge majority of us with a working Internet.

Having the option of offline single player doesn't force you to play single player offline, you could play your single player character online if you choose.

However, what you are saying is that those of us who want to play offline should go fuck ourselves because you don't think we should get a choice. Which do you suppose is more restrictive?

Did it occur to you that there is more to this issue than "2 poor to spend 100kB of traffic per session"? Some people don't have access to internet, even dial up can be expensive if you live out in the middle of nowhere. The other issue is that people don't want this always online DRM to become a standard and are therefore speaking out against it. An internet connection should not be required to play video games, the day that happens is the day the industry shrinks.

The game industry only hurts itself by limiting it's audience.

 

[Fensfield]

If I'd had the inclination to buy Diablo 3 in the first place.. I suppose this really has put me off for good.

Ah well.

 

[Nesco Nomen]

Having the option of offline single player doesn't force you to play single player offline, you could play your single player character online if you choose.

Since I already explained this, I'll ask u in a douchy manner:
Which part of:

There is simply NO WAY anyone can ensure integrity of the pure OFFLINE CHARACTER.

you have problem understanding?

 

[Epona]

Having the option of offline single player doesn't force you to play single player offline, you could play your single player character online if you choose.

Since I already explained this, I'll ask u in a douchy manner:
Which part of:

There is simply NO WAY anyone can ensure integrity of the pure OFFLINE CHARACTER.

you have problem understanding?

Why the fuck would anyone care to ensure the integrity of a PURE OFFLINE character?

 

[Nesco Nomen]

Lets start again... how would u do it?

 

[Epona]

Lets start again... how would u do it?

If you don't want to play online, you should be able to play offline. If you go online, you have to start a new online only character. If you don't want to play offline, then don't create an offline character.

This isn't rocket science. You don't need to create two different characters. If you want to run mods or cheat or just play without a crowd, the offline option is for you. If you want to play online...that option is there as well.

The only reason to force everyone online is for DRM purposes.

 

[Nesco Nomen]

If you don't want to play online, you should be able to play offline. If you go online, you have to start a new online only character. If you don't want to play offline, then don't create an offline character.

This isn't rocket science. You don't need to create two different characters. If you want to run mods or cheat or just play without a crowd, the offline option is for you. If you want to play online...that option is there as well.

I am again telling u that(besides THAT being more complicated solution) having an access to locally saved character data would make it immensely easier to find a way around Warden.

Blizzard would never make life easier for hackers, even if there was no real money AH involved.
And with money AH - just forget it

They are opening themselves to variety of lawsuits, and trusting Warden to keep them out of it.
Well Warden and proly some fine print in Eula

 

[Epona]

If you don't want to play online, you should be able to play offline. If you go online, you have to start a new online only character. If you don't want to play offline, then don't create an offline character.

This isn't rocket science. You don't need to create two different characters. If you want to run mods or cheat or just play without a crowd, the offline option is for you. If you want to play online...that option is there as well.

I am again telling u that(besides THAT being more complicated solution) having an access to offline saved character data would make it immensely easier to find a way around Warden.

Blizzard would never make life easier for hackers, even if there was no real money AH involved.

So you're saying it's ok to design a game around fighting hackers rather than around creating fun for honest customers?

 

[Nesco Nomen]

And what do u say?

I never saw a cheater in WoW. Played it 2 years.. I think. Well I have... macros, gathering bots, that kind of stuff.
Nothing kinda HL/COD/BC2 wall-hack, invulnerability, speed hack etc.

I wouldn't even consider playing D3 online if this was possible.

 

[Epona]

And what do u say?

I never saw a cheater in WoW. Played it 2 years.. I think. Well I have... macros, gathering bots, that kind of stuff.
Nothing kinda HL/COD/BC2 wall-hack, invulnerability, speed hack etc.

I wouldn't even consider playing D3 online if this was possible.

...and I wouldn't consider playing it since there isn't an offline mode. My internet is fine but I don't choose to use it to allow Blizzard to monitor and control how I play a game I bought. I don't play MMO's either but atleast with MMO's being required to be online makes sense. This is just DRM.

I will also not support treating customers like criminals.

 

[2012 Wont Happen]

Assassins Creed: Brotherhood had the same sort of constant connectivity and it was cracked within a month. The only difference now is that the hackers have experience with cracking games like this because of their work with AC:B.

We'll see then. But why do they even try...

They don't appreciate this constant connectivity bullshit any more than I do. Only difference between me and them is that they have the knowledge to do something about it.

Oh, no no. I mean Blizzard. If indeed they'll have failed in trying to prevent pirates from pirating the game, then all their security measures and inconveniences to the consumer will serve as much purpose as a CD-key did in Diablo 2.

They all do serve about that much purpose due to game companies approach to pirates. Game companies sue hackers. Instead it would make more sense to pay them off, have them be the ones creating their game protections.

I don't like DRM, but looking at it from the corporate standpoint the course of action that makes most sense would be to have the crackers be the ones making your security systems.

 

[Nesco Nomen]

double post xD

 

[Nesco Nomen]

...and I wouldn't consider playing it since there isn't an offline mode. My internet is fine but I don't choose to use it

I will also not support treating customers like criminals.

So if it was up to you,
we would all have to live with a little bit of cheating, in a mild scenario that is.

Just so we can run it OFFLINE...
Good thing those involved in Diablo 3 developing process don't share that people enthusiasm like u do

This deserves to be quotted again:

My internet is fine but I don't choose to use it to allow Blizzard to monitor and control how I play a game I bought.

Privacy at its best

 

[Epona]

...and I wouldn't consider playing it since there isn't an offline mode. My internet is fine but I don't choose to use it

I will also not support treating customers like criminals.

So if it was up to you,
we would all have to live with a little bit of cheating, in a mild scenario that is.

Just so we can run it OFFLINE...

Good thing those involved in Diablo 3 developing process don't share that people enthusiasm like u do

Hmm...so if it were up to you we would ban cars rather than risk car accidents, grand theft auto or other car related crimes? Good thing those involved in making public policy don't share that anti-car enthusiasm like you do.

My opinion is that designing games for hackers and pirates rather than for your fanbase is a bad idea and that seems to be the deal here and with many games these days.

 

[Nesco Nomen]

Hmm...so if it were up to you we would ban cars rather than risk car accidents,

I never said such thing.

And you didn't respond when I asked you would u sacrifice a game so there's a little bit of cheating, just so we can run D3 OFFLINE...

But that is what you're asking Blizz to do.

Have themselves open for myriads of lawsuits, and become a laughing stock of gaming industry.
Because your Internet

is fine but I don't choose to use it to allow Blizzard to monitor and control how I play a game I bought

Why the fuck would you buy anything from these controlling/monitoring assholes to begin with

 

[Yvressian]

This always-online scheme will probably have the opposite its intended effect. Diablo 3 might end up the most pirated game of last few years if a cracked version means being able to play without an internet connection. It would actually mean that the pirated version is better than the retail one, and if the better one is also free, you can see where this is going...

Also, here are a couple of reasons every game should be able to play offline: when you're travelling, if your ISP goes offline for any period of time(maintenance and such), if you generally have a poor connection, if you're moving house (in my experience, that means a couple of months with no landline phone&internet) etc.