It's not Hitler who was evil, it was the idiots who followed him. Only a twisted and insane person would follow the orders of a madman.Sean565 said:
OT: I haven't read a book that I considered worthy of being burned out of existence.
Books you hate and books you wish they were never made.
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OT: I haven't read a book that I considered worthy of being burned out of existence.
I always felt Wuthering Heights was the best novel about a brooding, misunderstood man and a woman that 'just wants him to open up' (Yes this literally the inspiration for twilight), mainly because they have relationship problems on account of one of them being a weirdo.
Shame it has terrible pacing, so much narritive juxtaposition I didn't even know the narrator changed, everyone is suprisingly unlikeable, a fuckin' mean spirit troughout all of it, and a miserable 'happy' ending that's about as happy as the ending of 'The Pearl' (Spoiler alert: A baby dies and everyone is still poor)
Shame it has terrible pacing, so much narritive juxtaposition I didn't even know the narrator changed, everyone is suprisingly unlikeable, a fuckin' mean spirit troughout all of it, and a miserable 'happy' ending that's about as happy as the ending of 'The Pearl' (Spoiler alert: A baby dies and everyone is still poor)
Considering the state Germany was in when Adolf Hitler came into power, that's a really ignorant thing to say.AndyFromMonday said:
Maybe he meant how one man can change the world for the worse if we're not careful......nevermind I just reread his post and saw inspiring story. Dead god I hope he just misspoke....Ih8pkmn said:
What do you mean? Eragon may have similar themes but it's not an imitator. When you're writing after someone else you're bound to have similar themes but that doesn't mean they're copying. Eragon is completely different than LOTR. Their dwarves are short, their humans are flawed, and the elves are perfect....ok they're the same. But you forgot the rip off of Star Wars in there for good measure.Kahunaburger said:
Seconded.godevit said:
Anyone who's point is basically "I had to read [insert classic work of literature] in High School and I found it BORING" can crawl into a hole.
If I read something thats considered a classic and I don't enjoy it, I actually consider it my own failing rather than the book's. Like the way that
Things like Twilight or Mein Kampf are more understandable, but I feel uncomfortable about saying anything shouldn't exist, especially something that has brought joy to millions (Twilight) or has influenced history so profoundly.
Which is funny because Upton Sinclair wanted worker rights not standards with foods.Stoic raptor said:
Books I hate,
Pride and Prejudice, I had to read it in high school and I feel that Jane Austin is a small minded feminist (before you comment, I did read it front to back several times). But I did think Jane Austin's writing had benefit humankind
I didn't care for J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter series, first few books were good, but the series gotten out of hand by the 4th book. And I felt the 7th book was a rip off of the sum total of all the Harry Potter Fan Fictions.
The first chapter of the Fellow Ship of the ring, it was drawn out and read like a bad National Geographic article and less like a Fantasy, this one I blame the book publishers instead of the writer (they insist on the same level of detail that bore me).
The Secret, oh what a pile of horse shit that was.
Last but not least, ant thing that Stephine Myers wrote, will write or could of write. I so do not see how a talentless hack that "bows to the lowest common denominator" got her books published, how well they sold and how in god's name they were made into equally (if not more so) terrible, horrible charade that people mistake for movies.
Sloppily written, pointlessly expository, mind-numbing pace and a predictable twist ending which happens way too abruptly.
Don't waste your time with it.
+1. I don't know where this quote came from, but: ?Two novels can change a bookish fourteen-year old?s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other involves orcs.?Ultratwinkie said:
Romeo and Juliet. Romeo and fucking Juliet. I have no idea if anybody else shares this sentiment, but for nearly every piece of literature I had to study in school, they always, inevitably, found a way to make even fascinating books into long, boring slogs of tediousness. I harbour a particular hatred for Romeo and Juliet because we studied it for two years in a row, and for the record, I think it's one of Shakespeare's more overrated plays. Hamlet -- introduced to me by an absolutely fantastic teacher, if there's any connection there -- was much better.
Also, Lord of the Flies. Again, my loathing of it has educational connections, regardless of whether it's a good book or not. We had this absolutely awful teacher whose only form of communication was shouting; she literally could not hold a conversation like a normal human being. I dreaded every single lesson. We remained absolutely silent as she read for about half an hour in a loud yet painfully monotonous voice, and then we were somewhat insultingly handed these stupid worksheets to fill in. It was just so routine and systematic, it was agonizing. I only survived by seeing how much innuendo me and my friend could find in one chapter, because sweet Jesus was that thing amusing if you had a dirty mind.
We never finished it, thank God, and I have no plans to in my spare time.
However, I certainly don't wish that they never existed. They are classics for good reasons, and besides, you can learn something even from the worst books. Like how not to write if you care more about credibility than a paycheck.
Also, Lord of the Flies. Again, my loathing of it has educational connections, regardless of whether it's a good book or not. We had this absolutely awful teacher whose only form of communication was shouting; she literally could not hold a conversation like a normal human being. I dreaded every single lesson. We remained absolutely silent as she read for about half an hour in a loud yet painfully monotonous voice, and then we were somewhat insultingly handed these stupid worksheets to fill in. It was just so routine and systematic, it was agonizing. I only survived by seeing how much innuendo me and my friend could find in one chapter, because sweet Jesus was that thing amusing if you had a dirty mind.
We never finished it, thank God, and I have no plans to in my spare time.
However, I certainly don't wish that they never existed. They are classics for good reasons, and besides, you can learn something even from the worst books. Like how not to write if you care more about credibility than a paycheck.
If I may also add, the Nazis used a lot of propaganda to indoctrinate the Germans in Hitler's favour. Of course there was opposition, but you can't exactly blame people when they're brainwashed. Just pointing that out.dancinginfernal said:
It's more complaining that all FPS games use guns. No one even tries to deviate from GUNS anymore...GiantRaven said:
OT: I have a pretty big hate of Eragon books, though if they're wished away I think that I still would've been in the rut of only reading bad fantasy.
Hmm. I guess Stam van de Holebeer. Hate that series, and it's going for like seven books!
It would be kind of nice to see more First-person games that aren't based around 'shooter' gameplay...SamuelT said:
It's why games like Portal 2 and Amnesia are so refreshing to see.
"Effi Briest"
An atrocity of utter boredom that only marginally beats watching paint dry.
Also Twilight. It is an example of how NOT to write a story. (in contrast to the highly succesfull marketing of this polished turd)
Saying that current high fantasy authors still ripp of Tolikin because they use staple races and concepts is like acusing Michael Bay of riping off Stanley Kubrik for using a camera.
An atrocity of utter boredom that only marginally beats watching paint dry.
Also Twilight. It is an example of how NOT to write a story. (in contrast to the highly succesfull marketing of this polished turd)
Saying that current high fantasy authors still ripp of Tolikin because they use staple races and concepts is like acusing Michael Bay of riping off Stanley Kubrik for using a camera.
dancinginfernal said:
I understand why Adolf Hitler was voted in a position of power. However, the state of Germany does not in any way excuse the killings of 11 million people.
Catcher in the Rye is one of my favorite books ever... ;__;
When I started reading it, I couldn't stop. I finished it way ahead of the class. I identified hardcore with that jerk, and his distaste for everyone phoneyness. I remember sitting silently next to the regular kids talking about how much it sucked and was dumb, etc, and just wanting to jump in and say "YOU WOULD SAY THAT YOU GODDAMN FAKERS!" but being the shy fat kid I was, just fumed to myself.
The way it's analysis was handled in class was pretty lame though. I felt they dodged the fact that the whole moral is society sucks, humans are pretty much all lairs, and that no one ever figures out how to get through life so stop trying. Of course, thats probably too simple and pessimistic for a classroom, so they inflate it with stupid extra meanings about transition to adulthood, instead of realization of the Human Condition.
Anyway, the only book I've ever hated was this stupid one about black people in the south just after the civil war and abolition. That subject is surely important and everything, but I DESPISED the dialogue in the book. It was written in the style of speech of former slaves at the time, but they way it was transcribed was nigh unreadable. And we had to read it in class. So we had naive, blonde white girls struggling with sentences like "ain't nuttin w'z geten h're" and such. Although I did find the social stigmas and classroom rulings to avoid saying the N-word and instead substitute ACTUALLY SAYING "N-Word" to be a hilarious study of people's uncomfortableness with racial issues.
BTW, the plot of that book involved a former slave woman pretty much sleeping around with like 3 black guys and getting raped by a white guy, then one of her first partners decides he owns her or something and goes crazy to try to beat her up, then eventually gets bit by a rabid dog and has to be shot and killed like a zombie by her most recent BF named "Sweet T", after which they walk off into the sunset and the book is over.
Dumb.
When I started reading it, I couldn't stop. I finished it way ahead of the class. I identified hardcore with that jerk, and his distaste for everyone phoneyness. I remember sitting silently next to the regular kids talking about how much it sucked and was dumb, etc, and just wanting to jump in and say "YOU WOULD SAY THAT YOU GODDAMN FAKERS!" but being the shy fat kid I was, just fumed to myself.
The way it's analysis was handled in class was pretty lame though. I felt they dodged the fact that the whole moral is society sucks, humans are pretty much all lairs, and that no one ever figures out how to get through life so stop trying. Of course, thats probably too simple and pessimistic for a classroom, so they inflate it with stupid extra meanings about transition to adulthood, instead of realization of the Human Condition.
Anyway, the only book I've ever hated was this stupid one about black people in the south just after the civil war and abolition. That subject is surely important and everything, but I DESPISED the dialogue in the book. It was written in the style of speech of former slaves at the time, but they way it was transcribed was nigh unreadable. And we had to read it in class. So we had naive, blonde white girls struggling with sentences like "ain't nuttin w'z geten h're" and such. Although I did find the social stigmas and classroom rulings to avoid saying the N-word and instead substitute ACTUALLY SAYING "N-Word" to be a hilarious study of people's uncomfortableness with racial issues.
BTW, the plot of that book involved a former slave woman pretty much sleeping around with like 3 black guys and getting raped by a white guy, then one of her first partners decides he owns her or something and goes crazy to try to beat her up, then eventually gets bit by a rabid dog and has to be shot and killed like a zombie by her most recent BF named "Sweet T", after which they walk off into the sunset and the book is over.
Dumb.