Bosses you felt bad about killing

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benoitowns said:
yea i meant myhrs zombie father. i felt kinda bad because i killed him with myrh, my seths weapons broke and she was the next most powerful, and she just seemed really sad about killing him
ouch... no wonder you felt bad... I feel hollow just thinking about it XD and gah, you use seth!... sorry, nope, its entirely your choice, its my fault that i often find myself in the strange disposition to not use a character whos already strong that you get at the start of the game all the way to the end... call me an unstrategic moron for not "firing my lazer" and instead firing with pea-shooters until eventually they themselves become lazers but i guess i'm just that type of person
sorry for complaining at you and your gaming style.

and Oh my i just remembered about Crisis core! tell you who i felt bad for killing, almost every single boss! because it didn't matter who it was, it always seemed to be made out that it wasn't their fault and you're a tosser for killing them!
i also hated the ending, where i was doing 9999 damage against what looked like 3 normal troops but not flipping getting anywhere... i survived for like, 5 minutes out of pure stubborn-ness of not wanting Zack to die.
and sorry, but i'm not going to spoiler-tag that, because anyone who cares about Final Fantasy 7 will already know this, regardless of whether they want to play Crisis Core, heck, most people who don't particularly like Final Fantasy 7 know this!
 

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...Loghain, sure he betrayed Cailan and by choosing to make him a warden Alistair quits, so he had to die for my guy.

But the fact everything he did was part of a paranoid and twisted plan to protect Fereldan from Orlais rather than his own personal goals. When you consider evidence from Return to Ostager that Cailan was cheating on Anora with the Empress of Orlais in an attempt to secure some sort of alliance/heir, this is a huge betrayal to both a patriot/national hero and father in law.

Throwing in the fact he didn't know why Gray Wardens are necessary to end a blight and thought they were just an vestigial institution trying to carve some power out of the nation as well.

I could also feel his frustration with Lord Howe and how he only had sycophantic supporters rather than the great houses he thought he deserved.

But it was his last words, about daughter never truly growing up, before I executed him that made me feel sad.

I really wanted a dialogue option to tell him how much I respected his service to Fereldan.

I saw his character and mine as being very similar people, the necessary evil to the rightous king (Maric, Alistair), people forced to make crap decisions because no one else will or can.
 

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The Fire Dragon in Radiata Stories.

More irritating this one, having to kill the female gang on thieves in Oblivion, would liked the choice to just beat them up and make them my slaves or join them or something. Oh well, things like that irk me more than make me sad.
 

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riottrio said:
benoitowns said:
yea i meant myhrs zombie father. i felt kinda bad because i killed him with myrh, my seths weapons broke and she was the next most powerful, and she just seemed really sad about killing him
ouch... no wonder you felt bad... I feel hollow just thinking about it XD and gah, you use seth!... sorry, nope, its entirely your choice, its my fault that i often find myself in the strange disposition to not use a character whos already strong that you get at the start of the game all the way to the end... call me an unstrategic moron for not "firing my lazer" and instead firing with pea-shooters until eventually they themselves become lazers but i guess i'm just that type of person
sorry for complaining at you and your gaming style.
Seth I can't fault you for since he's an Oifaye Jeigan. Don't use him a ton early on (aka Jeigan), but he's still halfway decent for when your other units have caught up (aka Oifaye).
 

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Whisper in the first Fable, although I was role-playing as an evil bastard and enjoyed finishing her off I still felt remorse every time your character stares down at her lying on the ground.
 

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I always have trouble killing bosses that have some sort of justification for what they've done. A good example would be all the bosses from Assassin's Creed 1. Their methods were often brutal or "evil" but they only followed through with their plans because they thought it would help the greater good. Saren from ME1 was a character I empathised with as well. Better to be on the right of the devil, guiding his hand, than being in his path.

Also despite his betrayal I'd also say Shepard from Modern Warfare 2.
Despite his cold hearted Machiavellian engineering of an entire war, he was a loyal soldier who felt betrayed by the political yahoos in government who let the deaths of 30,000 go unpunished. I despise his methods and his callous disregard for life but it's clear that at some point he was broken by the events that occurred and he was in too high of a position for his madness to be noticed.
 

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BrynThomas said:
...Loghain, sure he betrayed Cailan and by choosing to make him a warden Alistair quits, so he had to die for my guy.

But the fact everything he did was part of a paranoid and twisted plan to protect Fereldan from Orlais rather than his own personal goals. When you consider evidence from Return to Ostager that Cailan was cheating on Anora with the Empress of Orlais in an attempt to secure some sort of alliance/heir, this is a huge betrayal to both a patriot/national hero and father in law.

Throwing in the fact he didn't know why Gray Wardens are necessary to end a blight and thought they were just an vestigial institution trying to carve some power out of the nation as well.

I could also feel his frustration with Lord Howe and how he only had sycophantic supporters rather than the great houses he thought he deserved.

But it was his last words, about daughter never truly growing up, before I executed him that made me feel sad.

I saw his character and mine as being very similar people, the necessary evil to the rightous king (Maric, Alistair), people forced to make crap decisions because no one else will or can.
Woah hold on, Calin was in a relationship with the Emporess of Orlais? I thought they were negotiating an alliance and that made Loghain angry.
 

WolfThomas

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Blatherscythe said:
BrynThomas said:
...Loghain, sure he betrayed Cailan and by choosing to make him a warden Alistair quits, so he had to die for my guy.

But the fact everything he did was part of a paranoid and twisted plan to protect Fereldan from Orlais rather than his own personal goals. When you consider evidence from Return to Ostager that Cailan was possibly cheating on Anora with the Empress of Orlais in an attempt to secure some sort of alliance/heir, this is a huge betrayal to both a patriot/national hero and father in law.

Throwing in the fact he didn't know why Gray Wardens are necessary to end a blight and thought they were just an vestigial institution trying to carve some power out of the nation as well.

I could also feel his frustration with Lord Howe and how he only had sycophantic supporters rather than the great houses he thought he deserved.

But it was his last words, about daughter never truly growing up, before I executed him that made me feel sad.

I saw his character and mine as being very similar people, the necessary evil to the rightous king (Maric, Alistair), people forced to make crap decisions because no one else will or can.
Woah hold on, Calin was in a relationship with the Emporess of Orlais? I thought they were negotiating an alliance and that made Loghain angry.
Return to Ostagar the DLC, heavily implies that had a relationship, a personal letter from the Empress written in an informal and forward manner, another from I think Arl Eamon suggesting he finds a source for a new heir.

But yeah even without that, a legion of chevaliers, being any where between 1000-6000 men and most likely knights from the name, is also a big possible threat in the future.
 

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Sarin. He wanted to turn back at the end but it was too late for him. Although tech. he kills himself, but whatever it was a bummer.
 

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Pyromaniac1337 said:
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, big time:

You are forced to kill your former "homie-for-life" and best friend Big Smoke, a guy who was corrupted by the bastard Police officer Frank Tenpenny and who was forced to help kill your mother and bring down Grove Street. Throughout the entire game after his "betrayal", he's painted as a corrupt bastard who was willingly pushing drugs, lieing, and destroying Los Santos. Then you finally get to him, and he comes off as just another of Tenpenny's victims, corrupted by money, fame, drugs, and guilt. He KNEW Grove Street, specifically CJ, would be coming to kill him. When he finally dies, he does so holding the last thing he found meaning in: His money. He had lost his friends and his family. Sure, he tried to kill you and was one of the hardest bosses, but that was because he was afraid of the retribution that was coming. In the end, especially with Tenpenny's death, he was quite sympathetic, and I felt bad for killing him.
Agreed, Smoke was sympathetic. Ryder, on the other hand, can (and did) go fuck off and die.
 

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Grensen said:
I felt sorry for killing the Beauties in MGS4 and hearing their sob story from Drebin just made me feel worse
Agreed.
When you spend twenty minutes following a death (or while they are dying) speaking to or about them it really makes you consider their lives. The MGS series is all about the costs of battle.
 

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Gunther from Deus Ex. It's not because he was paticularly likable, but because I used his killphrase instead of fighting him head on, which felt kind of like cheating.
 

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I felt bad for killing the dwagon *ahem* dragon at the end of Darksiders, he was so cute!

Shadow of the Collosus also, but you're meant to feel bad for killing the bosses in that game.
 

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Late Dragon Age spoilers.
When Zevran betrayed me. What makes it worse, is that he got the dual weapon, stab, head slice animation death.