BULLSHIT more like brother kills other brother over argument Playstation found within 10 mile radius so blame it
Boy kills brother for TURNING ON his PS3
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Teehee. They must be all aggressive because of all the video games they play.Hubilub said:
I believe it's just rash thinking and not accounting all the facts. The kid needs help. Death does not help. Maybe if they get a shrink or someone he might actually connect the right dots and find the right link between the cause and the stabbing. He might make an example out of it. Anything can go big if it hits the right hot streak of events. But I have a vivid imagination.
Point is studying something helps much more than outright dismissing it and throwing it away. Here we have a perfect subject to study. Why just waste the opportunity to explore deeper into some of these 'occurrences' that have been happening lately? 'specially the X stabs Y over video game/console/anything else that makes Jack Thompson material.
Side note:The word you might be looking for could be 'appalling' or 'repulsive' or something.
Appalling sounds good!Retardinator said:Teehee. They must be all aggressive because of all the video games they play.Hubilub said:
I believe it's just rash thinking and not accounting all the facts. The kid needs help. Death does not help. Maybe if they get a shrink or someone he might actually connect the right dots and find the right link between the cause and the stabbing. He might make an example out of it. Anything can go big if it hits the right hot streak of events. But I have a vivid imagination.
Point is studying something helps much more than outright dismissing it and throwing it away. Here we have a perfect subject to study. Why just waste the opportunity to explore deeper into some of these 'occurrences' that have been happening lately? 'specially the X stabs Y over video game/console/anything else that makes Jack Thompson material.
The word you might be looking for could be 'appalling' or 'repulsive' or something.
I am appalled at all the people saying the kid should die.
Yeah, that works. Thank you.
EDIT: I just noticed the comments in the linked article also.
Douchebags.
Hmmmmmm... I bet that there was a whole lot of other crap going on--- Or that kid is seriously fucked up. T.T
well I guess the ps3 does have power the power to turn people murderous psychopaths (ok maybe too dramatic) but seriously killing your brother because he wants to play ps3 without him asking the boy needs to learn sharing
Not to mention the fact its gonna be juvie for the first 2, but they can't take it too hard because he's a "minor"....Stupid lawsJiraiya72 said:
He should get more than five years...
By the way, was this the same kid who killed his parents over taking away Halo, or killed his dad because he took away his keyboard?
Seems to be a lot of stories about shit-crazy kids killing family members over a gaming related issue...
By the way, was this the same kid who killed his parents over taking away Halo, or killed his dad because he took away his keyboard?
Seems to be a lot of stories about shit-crazy kids killing family members over a gaming related issue...
The kid obviously lacks boundaries in his life-- it's not too surprising, considering his situation. I doubt he intended to kill his brother-- what does a kid know about knives? He probably thought that it would be a good way to assert his authority over his brother, but then "things got out of control."
he killed his LITTLE BROTHER over a video game, do you really think that he deserves a place in society?[/quote]brodie21 said:
Not deserving a place in society is not synonymous with execution. Rehabilitation is always the better route. I'm not a fan of this eugenics-like argument used by death penalty supporters.
Well he's gonna live with the fact that he killed his brother forever.Jiraiya72 said:
So the YOUNGER boy killed the OLDER boy because the PS3 belonged to the YOUNGER boy? Thats not how it works, everyone shares or else it belongs to the older kid. Still terrible story.
This is pretty damn tragic. You have to wonder what kind of life the kid had to put him in a mental state where he would kill his own brother. The fact that a PS3 is involved is kind of meaningless. Since this did happen, it could have happened over anything.
The kid doesn't need jail time. The kid needs serious psychological care and rehabilitation, a serious attempt at patching up what is clearly a broken and bent psyche. Frankly, I think five years is a bit too optimistic an estimate for trying to turn this train-wreck around.
To those in favour of simply throwing him in jail for twenty years, shame on you. Nothing good could come of just throwing the kid in a box for two decades, only to come out full grown, stronger, harder and nuttier than ever. It would be a guaranteed way to turn a disturbed and unstable kid into a genuine bona-fide criminal.
The kid doesn't need jail time. The kid needs serious psychological care and rehabilitation, a serious attempt at patching up what is clearly a broken and bent psyche. Frankly, I think five years is a bit too optimistic an estimate for trying to turn this train-wreck around.
To those in favour of simply throwing him in jail for twenty years, shame on you. Nothing good could come of just throwing the kid in a box for two decades, only to come out full grown, stronger, harder and nuttier than ever. It would be a guaranteed way to turn a disturbed and unstable kid into a genuine bona-fide criminal.
yep. there are some retarded people out there.
and some wonder why i have no faith in humanity.
and some wonder why i have no faith in humanity.
Don't like it, don't read. Simple as.Jarrid said:
Wooh, those are harsh prison terms in Britain. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes, he's really going to be put away.Article said:
And all those commenters under the article are as idiotic as non-gamers can be, especially the one who has decided it is all Gordon Brown's fault.
Phew, an informed decision eh? Glad to see one. Although I already discounted it when it turned out he couldn't tell the difference between "too" and "to". It's simple, honestly; this is primary school stuff.nibblesnobbles said:
Yup, Gordon did it all. Tony Blair, John Major and Margaret Thatcher were saintly in every aspect, but Gordon was the evil one.
I wonder if he's noticed this happened in Chile, not Britain. Ah well, probably not important when SWEEPING SENTIMENTS MUST BE VOICED.
Not deserving a place in society is not synonymous with execution. Rehabilitation is always the better route. I'm not a fan of this eugenics-like argument used by death penalty supporters.[/quote]hold on, how would they rehabilitate this kid into society? who would hire him? who would count him as a friend? how can he have a life after what he did?CuddlyCombine said:
Philosopher Ernst van den Haag would argue that imperfect justice is better than no justice at all. Let the little bastard fry.CuddlyCombine said:
1. 5 years is hardly enough for a crime of this magnitude and senselessness.
2. Rehabilitation is a very transparent concept - smart criminals will fake their way through. It only works if an individual wants and acknowledges a need for change. The problem is that many criminals don't see a problem with their behavior, and many don't care to. Thank you criminal psychology class! In the case of a mentally disturbed person, death is not a viable option due to the fact that they are not in full control of their actions. This is the only case where rehabilitation is the best option. It remains to be seen whether or not this is the case here.
3. Prisons are a double-edged sword. They remove criminals from society which it a plus, but it comes at taxpayer cost, and there is a great deal of argument as to how much they actually help. Most of the time criminals who are institutionalized only come out worse than when they went in. Putting people away for life isn't the perfect solution either due to the fact that at some point, prisons will fill up with lifers.
"Execution of those who have committed heinous murders may deter only one murder per year. If it does, it seems quite warranted. It is also the only fitting retribution for murder I can think of." - Ernst van den Haag.
Easily; you get over it. You work through it. You'd be surprised at how much a psychiatrist and therapy can do. Forgiving someone takes much more than simply punishing them, but that's what sets mankind apart from animals; we understand, or at least should, that one life's fate cannot be sealed by one act alone. I'm not saying that this wasn't tragic, I just don't think that he should die for it.brodie21 said:
Admittedly, I'm biased, as I don't support the death penalty.
He's a kid. I'm not saying that rehabilitation is infallible; it's anything but. However, there's no reason not to try. I'll gladly pay extra taxes if it means helping some misguided or unfortunate soul get a better grip on life. This is akin to disease treatment; if someone has a tumour in their arm, the safest, most decisive course of action would be to cut off the whole limb. However, even though it carries with it the option of failure, specialized treatment could yield much better results, even if costlier.tsb247 said:
I think van den Haag was misled in his assumption that all murderers will repeat. What of those who kill in self-defence, or a moment of rage? What of those who aren't seriously ill? There are many shades of gray in this world of black and white. You can't just ignore them.
I can agree with you on this point. Van den Haag did not have the whole picture in this sense. I tend to share some of the points laid out by philosopher Stephen Nathanson (who opposes capitol punishment) when he states that a person's motives should be taken into account. However, I disagree with his notion that we can never decide a person's moral deserts based upon the information presented to us.CuddlyCombine said:
I believe that killing in self-defense is warranted, and killing out of (genuine) mental defficiency is something worthy of rehabilitation and social isolation, but one cannot ignore the culpability of someone who kills in a moment of rage.
Here's my problem with the particular incident in question. This kid's motives were clear. Upon noticing his younger brother turning on his PS3 and sitting down for a game, he immediately went for a knife and stabbed his younger brother.
The knife was the first thing in his mind; the first thing he grabbed. This makes his motive very clear - to kill his younger brother.
How humane would it be to lock someone that violent away with other people? I would argue that it is more inhumane to lock people away in prisons for life where the conditions are harsh, and the people are violent. The threat of death hanging over your headevery day would be torture in and of itself; not from a state mandated procedure, but from a shard of glass or a filed down spoon.