British = English?

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Skeleon

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Glefistus said:
I also kind of know Plattdüütsch, which is still easier to understand than the southern accent of Bavaria, I don't know how you stand it.
Meh, whatever one grows up with, I guess.
 

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I am half English, half Scottish, all British, mostly geordie.

I think that some British people get a little bit too touchy about being British. British is otu nationality, it is in our passports. Being British gives us free healthcare, free benefits and a queen. I do not think that those not born in England should be ashamed to say they are British. Ethniticy is important but so is nationality.

Note to non-natives: All British are British, but only those born in England are English. Thus British does not always equal English.
 

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Does it make such a big issue to english people if we just call them british??? Honestly I think British sounds cooler as english is more like a language (in my books) and english people come from britian (also in my books ... alone in my books i am assuming)
 

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I'm surprised no one has explained what nationality a Tennis player is in Britain.

Tim Henman, born in England. When he was winning he was English, when he lost he was British.

Andy Murray, born in Scotland. When he's winning he?s British, when he loses he's Scottish.

Important issues this.
 

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Glefistus said:
Plus there isn't really a great way to prove bloodline, as most of Europe is probably nearly genetically identical. It's more of a novelty to know your ancestry than anything. Or something to brag about, if you're A VIKING LIKE ME!
Now that I think about it, why haven't scandinavian internet users started to refer themselves as Vikings or E-Vikings or something like that?

It just sounds like one of those things that could spiral out of control into an internet phenomenon (like Chuck Norris facts or the Pirates vs Ninjas debate)...
 

Agema

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Glefistus said:
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Because you're label makes more sense.
Why?
Germany consists of 16 states under a federal government.
I'm not a Saxon, Hamburger, Palatine and so on...
Following your logic, I'd have to have ancestors from all parts of Germany to be called a German.
Yeah, but what about German in the broader sense? If you were to say every Germanic is German than you would have Dutch, Poles, Austrians, Germans and some Czechs being called German.

As for actual Germany, I'd say anything goes except for SchleswigHolstein. I wouldn't consider Schleswig-Holstein a part of Germany, most people with ancestry there are probably of Scandinavian descent, as it was part of Denmark for the longest time. Personally, I just like thinking of myself as a Viking.
Poles are Slavic, not Germanic.
 

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Glefistus said:
Good, because there are only five or so actual "bloodlines" in Europe(as in, the different groups of people who migrated into Europe originally). But still, I accept all the bloodline crap when I want to be a Viking, because they are pretty cool.
What blood lines exactly? If viking is one of them, what about the others?

On my farther's side my ancestors where Irish, from a clan which stretched back to the 5th century and being warlords, plagued havoc with the Romans and the latter English invaders. On my mothers side, like most English people, i'm Anglo-Saxon.
 

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I think the British is people (like me) from the "British Isles" which would count for the rest of the United Kingdom, not repulic of ireland. I'd rather be called English but I wont correct someone for calling me British. I'm half Malyasian and get a little anoyed when people ask where I'm from (Im English!).
 

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I think most people are confused, it isn't being called British when we are English/Scottish/Welsh/NIrish that annoys people, it's being called specific's that we are not. I am British or Scottish for example. I am not Welsh, English or NIrish.

The only people who get angry if you call them British are the NIrish, as they're not apart of Britain, they are part of the UK. They get Angrier if you call them Irish :|

As for "why does it matter, other places don't care", most other places haven't had quite so many centuries warring with eachother :p
 

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British does have multiple uses. In a certain sense, it can refer to Great Britain (i.e. not Ireland) or the British Isles (Great Britain and Ireland and all the small ones). It can be used historically to refer to the native population of Great Britain or the British Isles before the Anglo-Saxons arrived.

However, in legal terms, "British" is the appropriate adjective for anyone holding citizenship of the United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland, and many of its overseas dependencies.

This includes the populations of Northern Ireland, the Falkland Islands, Gibraltar, and several other places. Some British people might not like being called British (most notably many Northern Ireland nationalists), and many British people clearly live several thousand miles away from the British Isles, but nevertheless they are, officially, British.
 

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Doug said:
George Palmer said:
ehhh if you go back far enough we are all British. Except those who aren't or never were..

...wait...what?
By the same token, you could say we're all African, because if you go back far enough, everyone is descented from the first humans there.

Oh c'mon. Now your just being silly!
 

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Well I don't mind either to be honest, I'm English though, I think it's quicker for foreigners to describe us as a whole with British then going through every nationality.
 

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Sparrow said:
So, a high percentage of people, mainly Americans (I'm not pointing fingers, it's just the higher percentage of people!) seem to think that "British" means "English". That may very well be true, but it doesn't just stop there. Being "British" means your part of Britain, or the UK. However, it can't be used in the sense that it's your nationality. It's a lable, yes. However, if I were to have "British" as my nationality, that would mean I'm Welsh, Scottish, English and partly Irish.

I'm just throwing this out there but, everyone gets that right? I hate to be a little elitist, but this is the Escapist, and it's built up of a mutli-diverse, but mainly intelligent group of people so I'm assuming the answer is yes.

But, just to be sure, and probally a bit patronizing, you all get that right?
I'd like them to dissolve the union then I could have an English passport.
 

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Maraveno said:
Standby said:
Sparrow said:
So, a high percentage of people, mainly Americans (I'm not pointing fingers, it's just the higher percentage of people!) seem to think that "British" means "English". That may very well be true, but it doesn't just stop there. Being "British" means your part of Britain, or the UK. However, it can't be used in the sense that it's your nationality. It's a lable, yes. However, if I were to have "British" as my nationality, that would mean I'm Welsh, Scottish, English and partly Irish.

I'm just throwing this out there but, everyone gets that right? I hate to be a little elitist, but this is the Escapist, and it's built up of a mutli-diverse, but mainly intelligent group of people so I'm assuming the answer is yes.

But, just to be sure, and probally a bit patronizing, you all get that right?
Northern Ireland is park of the UK, not Britain
what??? you do know great britain and U.K are one and the same thing right?

Or are you Ukish?
Geographically (and politically) the United Kingdom and Great Britain are two different (albeit similar) things.
Please provide a source if you're saying they're the same.
 

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canadamus_prime said:
Clyde said:
If the Queen of England is your head of state, you are British.
That includes Canada, until they get around to having a revolution.
Screw you! I'm no more British then I am a Martian.
Holy crap, you just admitted you're a martian! I want blood samples!
 

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Maraveno said:
Standby said:
Maraveno said:
Standby said:
Sparrow said:
So, a high percentage of people, mainly Americans (I'm not pointing fingers, it's just the higher percentage of people!) seem to think that "British" means "English". That may very well be true, but it doesn't just stop there. Being "British" means your part of Britain, or the UK. However, it can't be used in the sense that it's your nationality. It's a lable, yes. However, if I were to have "British" as my nationality, that would mean I'm Welsh, Scottish, English and partly Irish.

I'm just throwing this out there but, everyone gets that right? I hate to be a little elitist, but this is the Escapist, and it's built up of a mutli-diverse, but mainly intelligent group of people so I'm assuming the answer is yes.

But, just to be sure, and probally a bit patronizing, you all get that right?
Northern Ireland is park of the UK, not Britain
what??? you do know great britain and U.K are one and the same thing right?

Or are you Ukish?
Geographically (and politically) the United Kingdom and Great Britain are two different (albeit similar) things.
Please provide a source if you're saying they're the same.
there is no difference what you are referring to is called the british isles if you wish to include Ireland as a whole that's what you call it

Great Britain is simply A different word for United kingdom
Great Britain is sometimes casually used as synonymous with the UK, but this is an inaccurate usage, and Great Britain should just refer to England, Scotland and Wales. This can be easily verified by checking up any number of net sources (e.g. Wikipedia).

For instance, before the Act of Union (1800) with Ireland, there was the Kingdom of Great Britain. Then it became the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and after the independence of the Republic of Ireland it became the current nation, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
 

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Maraveno said:
Great Britain is simply A different word for United kingdom
Nope, otherwise the full version of what is shortened to the UK wouldn't be The United Kingdoms of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. If GB included NI that would be an including or the last bit just wouldn't be there.
 

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Yes, which is exactly why I consider myself Welsh intead of British. "British" can go die in a fire.