British = English?

[jboking]

Once or twice I have been corrected in a rather rude manner for calling someone from the UK by the wrong nationality(given, I didn't know exactly where they hailed from), so since then I have stuck to a simple formula. If you hail from any nation involved with the EU I call you European until you tell me exactly where you live, or politely tell me what you prefer to be called. Do you see anything wrong with this system?

Well England and I'm sure some of the other European countries have a few people who would take offence at being called European. Check if they read The Daily Mail first, if they do then don't call them European for the love of god.

Alright, new system, just call everyone as part of 1 of 3 groups - Smart, Asshole, and Stupid as hell. Got it.

 

[Stabby Joe]

Northern Irish are NOT British. The full title of the UK is as follows:

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Ireland is one of the British Isles.

The British Isles is a geographical term. Otherwise it would be called Great Britain... but it's not.

It's very simple, Great Britain is Wales, England and Scotland. Northern Ireland is just Northern Ireland. Both are apart of the United Kingdom.

 

[Sparrow]

I'm English but consider myself British

That's alright. It's a lable. I'm not saying you shouldn't say your British. After all, I'm British. I like being called British.

I'm just saying, British isn't a nationality.

 

[Zildjin81]

Yes, we know that.

Or some of us at least....

 

[Eldritch Warlord]

Northern Irish are NOT British. The full title of the UK is as follows:

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Ireland is one of the British Isles.

Then it would be called Great Britain... but it's not.

Great Britain is also one of the British Isles.

 

[littlelacysurprisepageant]

England (English) + Scotland (Scottish) + Wales (Welsh) = Great Britain.
Anyone from Great Britain is British.

Great Britain + Northern Ireland = United Kingdom. (Northern Ireland is not British.)
United Kingdom + Republic of Ireland = The British Isles. (Republic of Ireland is not British.)

Why is there four pages on trying to explain something this simple?

 

[Stabby Joe]

Northern Irish are NOT British. The full title of the UK is as follows:

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Ireland is one of the British Isles.

Then it would be called Great Britain... but it's not.

Great Britain is also one of the British Isles.

Since I editted my post I'll post it again:

The British Isles is a geographical term. Otherwise it would be called Great Britain... but it's not. The Irish, North and South do not call themsevles British nor do the British call them that.

It's very simple, Great Britain is Wales, England and Scotland. Northern Ireland is just Northern Ireland. Both are apart of the United Kingdom.

Along with Ireland on the whole, it's the British Isles.

 

[Skeleon]

Oh, come on, that doesn't make any sense.
I'm a German, yet I'm not a member of all 16 states.
But I don't demand people to call me something more specific than that, why do you?
I'm gonna keep calling you British, no matter what part of Britain you're from.

 

[G1eet]

Yes, anything else? You sexy british person you.

Ohh, shush you.

[small]And fetch me some tea whilst your at it.[/small]

You forgot to ask for crumpets!

[sub]*monocle pops out and smashes*[/sub]

Pip, pip!

OT- I might be one of the few Americans that know that Britain is the island and England is just one country in the "Kingdom"; Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland being the other parts of the whole amalgamation, but N. Ireland isn't part of Great Britain.

 

[Cryfear101]

100% English , i dont like haggis , i dont like sheep and i dont like morris dancing!!!

 

[Madaxeman101]

i consider myself english because i was born in england and both my parents are english and ill never forget when being asked where i was from when i was on holiday to america i said i was from england and the girl said "ooo wheres that"

 

[Kiefer13]

I was born in and live in Scotland, though I've always preferred to be known as British first. I've never really agreed with nationalism. I am *not* English though. That does irritate me, when people confuse things and mistakenly refer to the whole of the UK as "England".

 

[ConstantJoe]

Luckily I've got a big ol' Irish accent, so no one mistakes me for English

 

[Tomdavies95]

I prefer to be called English. It just a matter of being proud to be who I am. It doesnt mean I dont like the Welsh, Irish or Scottish. As a matter of fact I am part Welsh and part Northern Irish. I have nothing against them at all. Its just the specification of me. If you wanted you could stretch as far as to say im Derbian, since i am from Derbyshire XD

 

[Standby]

So, a high percentage of people, mainly Americans (I'm not pointing fingers, it's just the higher percentage of people!) seem to think that "British" means "English". That may very well be true, but it doesn't just stop there. Being "British" means your part of Britain, or the UK. However, it can't be used in the sense that it's your nationality. It's a lable, yes. However, if I were to have "British" as my nationality, that would mean I'm Welsh, Scottish, English and partly Irish.

I'm just throwing this out there but, everyone gets that right? I hate to be a little elitist, but this is the Escapist, and it's built up of a mutli-diverse, but mainly intelligent group of people so I'm assuming the answer is yes.

But, just to be sure, and probally a bit patronizing, you all get that right?

Northern Ireland is park of the UK, not Britain

I think your better off checking your facts before becoming condescending.
That's a religious debate anyway, the hard facts essentially prove that Northern Ireland is a British region.

I fully empathize with this threads point but I think the source is probably from the sheer size of America in comparison.

I think your better off checking your facts before you come off all high and mighty.

Great Britain (England/Scotland/Wales is the worlds third most populated island island, Northern Ireland only comes into the equation when talking about 'The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

 

[AfterAscon]

Anyone from North of Alnwick is Scottish and anyone from South of the Tyne is French. Discuss.

My family is from Scotland and the North of England, I consider myself British because I don?t have any strong affinity with either region.

 

[Doug]

In a way this is correct, both Americans and Brit's speak English, their very own dialects of English but English nonetheless. So British = English and American = English.

Not really... you SPEAK English...or the American version at least.

Your nationally is still American if your from the United State of America, English if your from England. Or British, if the rest of the UK didn't feel the need to be nationalist on us.

I recall the 'Founding Fathers' made certain you weren't English. With bullets.

 

[George Palmer]

ehhh if you go back far enough we are all British. Except those who aren't or never were..

...wait...what?

 

[Treblaine]

So, a high percentage of people, mainly Americans (I'm not pointing fingers, it's just the higher percentage of people!) seem to think that "British" means "English". That may very well be true, but it doesn't just stop there. Being "British" means your part of Britain, or the UK. However, it can't be used in the sense that it's your nationality. It's a lable, yes. However, if I were to have "British" as my nationality, that would mean I'm Welsh, Scottish, English and partly Irish.

I'm just throwing this out there but, everyone gets that right? I hate to be a little elitist, but this is the Escapist, and it's built up of a mutli-diverse, but mainly intelligent group of people so I'm assuming the answer is yes.

But, just to be sure, and probally a bit patronizing, you all get that right?

Northern Ireland is park of the UK, not Britain

True. Look on the UK passport it says "Citizen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain AND Northern Ireland".

Devolution (not the opposite of evolution before you ask) in Northern Ireland is just about as touchy a subject as you can get, even though many locals of that area consider themself "British" many more don't.