British = English?

[Nickolai77]

The Queen is, strictly, a figure-head off the UK, including England and Commonwealth country's. She doesn't really rule over anyone. Brit's just like to have a monarch for traditions sake. It also interests the tourists and we rake the money off them

 

[Bvenged]

Why is it not your nationality? I usually go by whats on my passport rather than the name of my state. That does not mean I'm part Alaskan, but that I share a country with a piece of land called Alaska, just as you share a country with a piece of land called Wales.

You're a citizen of the United Kingdom correct? Not of just Wales, Scotland, England, or Northern Ireland.

I must admit I don't get it. Why can't it be used?

No, it doesn't work that way. I'm welsh (from Wales if I really have to spell it out), and it drives my up the wall when I'm 'avin a good bag on Halo and I get called English. Not that there's anything wrong with them...
British is a term used for anyone within the UK. The countries within this are our nationalities. As said by topic starter. Passports work by how long you live somewhere.

It's nothing like the states. We're not states in a country, but a collection of countries in a gangbang I suppose. xD

 

[Jamanticus]

Blah blah blah.
If you let the Queen of England rule over you, that means you're English. Gain independence and then we'll talk.

Well the queen doesn't rule over us we have a British parliment with little mini parliments for each country in Wales and Scotland, the royal family hasn't been able to make decisions since some sort of war. She is just a tourist attraction for you Americans to enjoy

Edit: Also I don't mind being called British I think the OP means don't say everyone in Britain is English they can be Scottish or Welsh , if you are not sure call them British.

Wait, 'some war'? Some war?!

And so many Europeans say we United States people don't know our own history, hehe.

It was the English Civil War... So, there. Yeah. Totally.

I mean, I sure showed you... About history... And stuff...=P

And all of this about nationality and labels seems like personal taste more than an objective, 'I'm English, you twit! Don't call me British!' Doesn't that sound like something some mean and stolid old person would say?

 

[Standby]

So, a high percentage of people, mainly Americans (I'm not pointing fingers, it's just the higher percentage of people!) seem to think that "British" means "English". That may very well be true, but it doesn't just stop there. Being "British" means your part of Britain, or the UK. However, it can't be used in the sense that it's your nationality. It's a lable, yes. However, if I were to have "British" as my nationality, that would mean I'm Welsh, Scottish, English and partly Irish.

I'm just throwing this out there but, everyone gets that right? I hate to be a little elitist, but this is the Escapist, and it's built up of a mutli-diverse, but mainly intelligent group of people so I'm assuming the answer is yes.

But, just to be sure, and probally a bit patronizing, you all get that right?

Northern Ireland is park of the UK, not Britain

I think your better off checking your facts before becoming condescending.
That's a religious debate anyway, the hard facts essentially prove that Northern Ireland is a British region.

I fully empathize with this threads point but I think the source is probably from the sheer size of America in comparison.[/quote]

I think your better off checking your facts before you come off all high and mighty.

Great Britain (England/Scotland/Wales is the worlds third most populated island island, Northern Ireland only comes into the equation when talking about 'The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland[/quote]

Ha your ability to quote wikipedia is phenomenal, but that doesn't mean it's relevant. Did you actually READ it?[/quote]

What can i see, i couldn't be arsed to search any further than Wiki when this is such a pointless debate, if you're so sure that Brtian and the United Kingdom (here's a hint: it's in the name), please provide a link to your source.

 

[UberMore]

Blah blah blah.
If you let the Queen of England rule over you, that means you're English. Gain independence and then we'll talk.

The Queen of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland doesn't rule over us, but she has the power of Veto as Monarch to prevent anything from happening that will greatly effect the Country e.g. when our previous Prime Minster tried to push us into the Euro Currency.

And "Gain independance", do you think that Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are under English Rule, or the other way round? The countries are independant states, with a shared currency, with all the countries as part of a (United) Kingdom.

The statement "Gain idependance" implies that you also think France or another European country rules over the rest of the European countries.

 

[UberMore]

Blah blah blah.
If you let the Queen of England rule over you, that means you're English. Gain independence and then we'll talk.

The Queen of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland doesn't rule over us, but she has the power of Veto as Monarch to prevent anything from happening that will greatly effect the Country e.g. when our previous Prime Minster tried to push us into the Euro Currency.

And "Gain independance", do you think that Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are under English Rule, or the other way round? The countries are independant states, with a shared currency, with all the countries as part of a (United) Kingdom.

The statement "Gain idependance" implies that you also think France or another European country rules over the rest of the European countries.

Jeez people... I said it was a joke in a post below the one you quote. Come on, stop spamming my mailbox.

Fair enough, sorry I just read that post and flew into a sterotypically English rage and became overly deffensive...could also be my Irish Defience and German Fury.

 

[King CoN]

I'm from Scotland so I don't want to be called British.

We are seperate nations why can't be identified like that?

 

[Sassafrass]

I'm from Scotland so I don't want to be called British.

We are seperate nations why can't be identified like that?

What this guy said. I'm English and I have always been called British by foreign people (excluding Americans on LIVE who like my accent and somehow recognise it as an English one)We should be recognised at separate nations, mainly as the English seem to hate everyone else in the UK.

 

[WelshWizard]

I'm from Scotland so I don't want to be called British.

We are seperate nations why can't be identified like that?

You are British. British people are those from England, Wales and Scotland. Being Welsh, I have no problem being called British - I am, after all. It is, however, incredibly annoying to be called English, I'm not.

 

[FinalGamer]

I know some Scots don't really like being called British due to the connotation it has to really mean English, since England is the epicentre of Britain.

We even get the choice on passports here to be either British or Scottish. Same with in Wales and England I believe so it's all about your take on it.

 

[El Poncho]

Blah blah blah.
If you let the Queen of England rule over you, that means you're English. Gain independence and then we'll talk.

Well the queen doesn't rule over us we have a British parliment with little mini parliments for each country in Wales and Scotland, the royal family hasn't been able to make decisions since some sort of war. She is just a tourist attraction for you Americans to enjoy

Edit: Also I don't mind being called British I think the OP means don't say everyone in Britain is English they can be Scottish or Welsh , if you are not sure call them British.

Wait, 'some war'? Some war?!

And so many Europeans say we United States people don't know our own history, hehe.

It was the English Civil War... So, there. Yeah. Totally.

I mean, I sure showed you... About history... And stuff...=P

And all of this about nationality and labels seems like personal taste more than an objective, 'I'm English, you twit! Don't call me British!' Doesn't that sound like something some mean and stolid old person would say?

I know my history just that one I just couldn't remember plus Britain has thousands and thousands of years of history.

 

[Gebi10000]

Blah blah blah.
If you let the Queen of England rule over you, that means you're English. Gain independence and then we'll talk.

actually she's Queen of the United Kingdom,and the other commonwealth nations, NOT the queen of England. going up to a scot and telling him he's english is like saying to a tibeten that he's Chinese

 

[RADEOCIDE]

I'd probably say most of the human race is idiotic and naive.



People who don't get that, I'm sorry, but you're a dumbass.

 

[Jay Cee]

So, a high percentage of people, mainly Americans (I'm not pointing fingers, it's just the higher percentage of people!) seem to think that "British" means "English". That may very well be true, but it doesn't just stop there. Being "British" means your part of Britain, or the UK. However, it can't be used in the sense that it's your nationality. It's a lable, yes. However, if I were to have "British" as my nationality, that would mean I'm Welsh, Scottish, English and partly Irish.

I'm just throwing this out there but, everyone gets that right? I hate to be a little elitist, but this is the Escapist, and it's built up of a mutli-diverse, but mainly intelligent group of people so I'm assuming the answer is yes.

But, just to be sure, and probally a bit patronizing, you all get that right?

Northern Ireland is park of the UK, not Britain

I think your better off checking your facts before becoming condescending.
That's a religious debate anyway, the hard facts essentially prove that Northern Ireland is a British region.

I fully empathize with this threads point but I think the source is probably from the sheer size of America in comparison.

I think your better off checking your facts before you come off all high and mighty.

Great Britain (England/Scotland/Wales is the worlds third most populated island island, Northern Ireland only comes into the equation when talking about 'The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland[/quote]

Ha your ability to quote wikipedia is phenomenal, but that doesn't mean it's relevant. Did you actually READ it?[/quote]

What can i see, i couldn't be arsed to search any further than Wiki when this is such a pointless debate, if you're so sure that Brtian and the United Kingdom (here's a hint: it's in the name), please provide a link to your source.[/quote]

I would mock your spelling and grammar but I think it's a tad cliche these days.

What particular part of RELIGIOUS DEBATE did you not understand?

 

[Sparrow]

So, a high percentage of people, mainly Americans (I'm not pointing fingers, it's just the higher percentage of people!) seem to think that "British" means "English". That may very well be true, but it doesn't just stop there. Being "British" means your part of Britain, or the UK. However, it can't be used in the sense that it's your nationality. It's a lable, yes. However, if I were to have "British" as my nationality, that would mean I'm Welsh, Scottish, English and partly Irish.

I'm just throwing this out there but, everyone gets that right? I hate to be a little elitist, but this is the Escapist, and it's built up of a mutli-diverse, but mainly intelligent group of people so I'm assuming the answer is yes.

But, just to be sure, and probally a bit patronizing, you all get that right?

I'm not reading 7 pages of thread, but at one point the book History of England was the History of Britain.

The two terms, Britain and England where interchangable.

Thanks QI!

Indeed.

However, I must stress the "at one point" part.

 

[Ctrl-Alt-Elite]

Feel free most of ppl in UK (mby not wales) hate english / being a part of britain anyway.

Scotland ftw

 

[master m99]

well im a salvadorian,english guy from wales so things get a bit confusing for me but i tend to reffer to myself as british