Change.org Petition Demands Legal Gay Marriage For Ernie and Bert

[Sylveria]

*chuckles*
Forget homosexuality and the Gay Movement, someone can start the Incest Movement if this somehow got approved.

I may not have seen Sesame Street in...a couple decades at least, but last I recalled ERNIE AND BERT WERE BROTHERS. They were brothers because children could relate to having siblings more than they could relate to having roommates!

If you had read the article, you'd see it claims they're "best friends," not brothers or butt buddies or anything else. I also love that "Well if they start this movement, then people will start wanting to marry their family/pets/appliances," ignorant, "slippery slope" fear-mongering rhetoric.

 

[Atmos Duality]

*chuckles*
Forget homosexuality and the Gay Movement, someone can start the Incest Movement if this somehow got approved.

I may not have seen Sesame Street in...a couple decades at least, but last I recalled ERNIE AND BERT WERE BROTHERS. They were brothers because children could relate to having siblings more than they could relate to having roommates!

If you had read the article, you'd see it claims they're "best friends," not brothers or butt buddies or anything else. I also love that "Well if they start this movement, then people will start wanting to marry their family/pets/appliances," ignorant, "slippery slope" fear-mongering rhetoric.

Funny. I distinctly recall one of their shows describing them as "brothers".
Or perhaps that's another bizarro retcon like when they turned the cookie monster into the vegetable monster.

Time to break out the ol' VCR...

 

[Nargleblarg]

They sleep in the same bed that makes them gay...really? I'd saw them as working class New Yorkers who struggled by every day and due to situations with space and income were forced into having to share the same bed. Or hell they could even be cousins. There is nothing wrong with being gay but I just feel they are forcing something that isn't there.

 

[Formica Archonis]

Have we run out of facepalms yet? I'd like one right now.

Really, this is like asking a scriptwriter of any TV show to make your favorite slash pairing canon. Except dumber.

Here you go man:

Thanks, I needed that.

 

[funguy2121]

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Look, I don't care what you all say, Bert is not it! And I shall hear no arguments to the contrary!

Google gay Bert and Ernie and see what comes up. A whole lot of right-wing craziness suggesting that the two have already come out as a gay couple. This is so tired. It sounds like naive hippies. Wanting Bert and Ernie to be gay, which they aren't, is like wanting Wolverine to marry Jean Grey. You can write Marvel all you want and demand that they resurrect The Phoenix and espouse her to Logan, but all that will ever come of it is fan fiction.

I'm sorry, did no one know that Jean Grey was dead?

 

[moviedork]

homosexuality is too advanced of a topic to discuss with a 4-6 year old child. Normal sexuality (heterosexuality) alone isn't even appropriate for a teaching tool. Let's (by that I mean parents...the media has no business pushing it) wait until about 8-10 years old to teach homosexual awareness. Otherwise this pushes an agenda that doesn't need to be pushed. Basically-Let's have the child discover it for themselves, and if they have questions ask their parents.

 

[Ghengis John]

So the moral of this story is: One crazy guy is trolling the hell out of children's television workshop?

 

[theultimateend]

"... they remain puppets, and do not have a sexual orientation."

Ha. Leave it to Sesame Street to lay out the truth.

If it wasn't the puppet...then who was sexualizing me at that theater?!

They sleep in the same bed that makes them gay...really? I'd saw them as working class New Yorkers who struggled by every day and due to situations with space and income were forced into having to share the same bed. Or hell they could even be cousins. There is nothing wrong with being gay but I just feel they are forcing something that isn't there.

Yeah I've slept in a bed with another guy in it.

I had no idea I was gay.

These kind of things just blindside you!

Or perhaps saying that only gay men would lay in the same bed touches on a deeper injustice with gender roles that could be discussed.

Maybe.

But I just had a really good sandwich so someone else will need to do it.

 

[MasterOfHisOwnDomain]

Crap like this gives the whole movement striving for LGBT equality a bad name. Folks, we're not all into marrying off puppets okay...

 

[zHellas]

I thought they were brothers.

They're friends & roommates.

Though originally Bert & Ernie were supposed to be Father & Son, which is why they're always so close but yet for some reason they changed it to friends. (I remember hearing that to be true, though it might be wrong.)

 

[Atheist.]

I hate these ultra liberals, they are so dumb. Christ I'm all for gay rights but this is beyond stupid. It's a fucking show for 10 year olds to learn to count, why is this even an issue.

I seriously hope ten year olds would already have known how to count for some time. The only thing that annoys me here is people petitioning shows to bend to their will. Now if we were talking about the Muppets, they had a lot of social commentary back in the day.

 

[Treblaine]

Also, as someone else stated a coupla pages back, it seems whoever's whining is fine with a pig and a frog having a relationship in the muppets, without a need for an interspecies marriage, but Bert and Ernie, a thing and another thing, anthropomorphised, but not human, seem to need to go thru a marriage ceremony.

#1 Kermit and Miss Piggy are married, they got married in "Muppets Take Manhattan"

#2 They had been openly courting each other since the 1960's, being affectionate, obsessive and as intimate as G-rated TV shows allow (Miss Piggy kisses).

#3 Bert and Ernie have been mildly antagonistic to begrudgingly tolerant. This is not a relationship like marriage, like is like a guy looking after his mentally handicapped brother.

of ALL the two same sex Muppets Bert and Ernie are least appropriate to get married.

It seems to be pure convenience as in "they already live together" so a marriage is all that is needed, well no. A loving intimate relationship that is denoted by marriage is more than just sharing an abode together nor is living together even a prerequisite of marriage; all too often one of the couple has to leave home for work but their bond is for the rest of their lives.

 

[theLadyBugg]

I'm pretty sure Bert and Ernie have always shared a *room*, but never shared a bed. Close, economical, but not invading each others' private bubbles.


What we should be bothered by is not the love of a simple frog for a narcissistic pig, nor the incredibly close friendship of two male muppets, but the affection a hook-nosed blue "whatever" openly expressed for a chicken. Gonzo and Camilla, anyone? What the hell was happening there?

 

[likalaruku]

Call me a naughty girl, but I thought Burt & Ernie were gay when I was like 13 & I'm 28 now. They have a bromance plus no interest in lady Muppets, unlike those guys from Scrubs or Jay & Silent Bob. They disagree like a married couple. I think The Joker from Batman is gay too. ::Secretly thinks that all men are gay unless they offer evidence to the contrary. Blame the older yaoi-loving girls I grew up with::

 

[internetzealot1]

Keep it in your fanfics.

 

[Gladiateher]

As silly as I kinda think this is, I have to question the Sesame Street comment: If puppets have no sexuality, where did Bert and Ernie come from?

EH

They were stitched together in a Chinese sweatshop...

 

[Silvianoshei]

"Living in the same bedroom and the same home would make anyone question their sexuality."

WHAT?! I shared a room with a buddy of mine for 2 years. I never questioned my sexuality; I am very comfortably straight. What the hell is wrong with these people? Bert and Ernie are neither straight nor gay; they are PUPPETS MEANT TO TEACH CHILDREN.

Adding a transgendered person to the show? How would you execute that tastefully? If you just hint at it, no kid's gonna pick up the subtlety, (what 2 year old knows what a transgendered person even is?) and if you come out with it blatantly ("Im not a boy or a girl!" or showing genitalia or something, I don't even know) you've thrown class out the window.

People need to relax. Kids are already becoming oversexualized as it is. They don't need sex ed when they're 2.

 

[VanillaBean]

Dear Gays.

Leave stuff alone, please.
Yes they are two men who live in the same place and they are friends, wanting them to suddenly be gay for your own agenda is no better than us saying "Lolfags".

Sincerely.
The straight folks.

This would make the world a happier place, but sometimes people just dont know how far is to far.

 

[Lyri]

This would make the world a happier place, but sometimes people just dont know how far is to far.

Everyone see's their own ends getting a huge benefit from it, even if they don't need to do that.
A childs tv show and they want to make two characters gay?

Sexuality -isn't- in sesame street and it should stay the fuck out of it too.

 

[1337mokro]

How great it is to force two age old characters into a sexual pigeon hole. Why are they gay? Because they are two male puppets who share the same room? Isn't that a bit sexist and discriminatory of you to say change.org?

How progressive of you. To use your own prejudices about two characters to further you political agenda. Now I would have nothing against 2 new gay characters, be they humans or puppets. Though even then their sexuality will never be discussed because sex is not a Sesame Street topic.

How would you even explain this to children that young? I didn't know about sex when I was 4. I certainly wouldn't have wanted to have Grover suddenly turn around and start saying:

"A man shagging a woman is called sex. There are many forms of sex and it can also happen between two men or women. Sometimes when there are allot of people doing it at the same time and in the same room it is an orgy."

You see what I mean? Sex is a fucked up topic that needs ALLOT of careful attention, not a token wedding on a children show. 4 years old is not the place to start with this.

These are Bert and Ernie, two friends who learned me how fun it is to fantasize about being different animals.

Keep your dirty politics away from that.