Characters that are a disgrace to gaming

[Terminate421]

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Heres what I feel: (SPOILERS AHEAD FOR SOME GAMES)

When I look at a character, they need to serve a real purpose. I guess I didn't describe Nathan Drake as well as I should have.

Nathan Drake is supposed to be "relatable", all I see is a somehow handsome, non-caring, douchebag who has killed more people than one should care. Before bringing up the issue that: "They shot first" or "Their mercenaries". At some point, one would consider going crazy. He isn't a soldier so he isn't trained to accept the enemies death, and he isn't a civilian so he isn't a wuss. Thats your problem. You can't be perfect in combat and yet somehow be a good looking and witty, as well as extremely successful, as well as mentally healthy.

Now, I guess I sound ironic when I don't like "perfect" characters. What I meant was that I don't like characters that are unrealistically perfect. I loved Alcatraz in Crysis 2, as the nanosuit was the only reason you were alive, you really felt like you could fall apart after enough hits. I also like Master Chief, he was BRED to be a soldier, so when he kills, its understandable that he can handle the fact that he killed something. Nathan Drake is just a super model from Jersey Shore with an AK47, and thats the problem.

I like characters with reasons for their actions. One of my favorites is Noble Six. I may get back lash for it, but I see quite alot of character for an avatar with 5 lines. For starters, his back story is that he is responsible for the dissapearance of hundreds of soldiers. He is also widly spread amongst his talents, particularly lone wolf stuff. Lastly, he is able to assess a situation and understand what he must do, selflessly (He gives his life so a human ship could leave reach)

Nathan Drake...I can't stand, he's just there. All he does is make comments that are supposed to be witty, that EVERY guy would say, while also being relatable and being able to do things only a real soldier could do.

Also I'm not some fat pimpled face geek who needs to see him as relatable. I am a very lean, tall, and quite sarcastic person who likes to delve into things deeply.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

Well, the Master chief has less personality and emotion than a cement block. he is the least interesting character i have ever come across, that of itself does not make for a bad character, but the way the fanboys treat him as bad-ass in hyper-condensed really puts me of the character.

Well the books go into more detail as to who exactly John is and what his motives are, but I see where you're coming from. If you go solely by the games then there's not much you can glean from him.

Rosh Penin from Jedi Academy gets my vote. It's like they took everything that was annoying about Anakin from the prequels and cranked it up to eleven. You can tell just by LOOKING at him that he's a whiny *****:

Now if you'll excuse me, I have the sudden urge to strangle something.

ill agree on your whole post there good sir, MC has quite a few motives and is emotional enough about his crew, but he is able to stick with logic and strategy over it at all costs, unless its cortana..then he wrecks a whole flood ship to get her back.


Rosh = annoying son of a *****, why oh why did i ever save you and bring you back to the light...

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

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Heres what I feel: (SPOILERS AHEAD FOR SOME GAMES)

When I look at a character, they need to serve a real purpose. I guess I didn't describe Nathan Drake as well as I should have.

Nathan Drake is supposed to be "relatable", all I see is a somehow handsome, non-caring, douchebag who has killed more people than one should care. Before bringing up the issue that: "They shot first" or "Their mercenaries". At some point, one would consider going crazy. He isn't a soldier so he isn't trained to accept the enemies death, and he isn't a civilian so he isn't a wuss. Thats your problem. You can't be perfect in combat and yet somehow be good looking.

Now, I guess I sound ironic when I don't like "perfect" characters. What I meant was that I don't like characters that are unrealistically perfect. I loved Alcatraz in Crysis 2, as the nanosuit was the only reason you were alive, you really felt like you could fall apart after enough hits. I also like Master Chief, he was BRED to be a soldier, so when he kills, its understandable that he can handle the fact that he killed something. Nathan Drake is just a super model from Jersey Shore with an AK47, and thats the problem.

I like characters with reasons for their actions. One of my favorites is Noble Six. I may get back lash for it, but I see quite alot of character for an avatar with 5 lines. For starters, his back story is that he is responsible for the dissapearance of hundreds of soldiers. He is also widly spread amongst his talents, particularly lone wolf stuff. Lastly, he is able to assess a situation and understand what he must do, selflessly (He gives his life so a human ship could leave reach)

Nathan Drake...I can't stand, he's just there. All he does is make comments that are supposed to be witty, that EVERY guy would say, while also being relatable and being able to do things only a real soldier could do.

Also I'm not some fat pimpled face geek who needs to see him as relatable. I am a very lean, tall, and quite sarcastic person who likes to delve into things deeply.

to get on your last statement, i wasn't pointing that at you for that, i just meant in general, i actually assume most gamers are NOT that stereotype although stereotypes are and always will be there i suppose. while i'm not tall (5'9") i am definitely lean and highly sarcastic myself.


and fair enough, i actually agree with you on noble 6 and i can appreciate what you went into further there, so fair enough on that.

although random thing i would point out; my rock climbing teacher from last fall was alot like nathan drake (he rocked a beard and wasn't as muscular but he was VERY similar in alot of ways, he even was a medical officer over in afghan for 4 years before coming back to teach rock climbing/etc, so he definitely knew what he was doing in the field)

and he was probably the teacher i've had the most fun with besides my calc III teacher in college thus far, while that's not the biggest feat ever, my point is just saying an average joe can relate to him in some ways. (ironically now that I think about it i may like nathan drake because of my rock climbing teacher, who knows.)

 

[Rad Party God]

Well, I'm generally all peace and love, as I rarely express my anger towards something or anyone, but I'll make an exception in this one.

First and foremost, Tingle. He was quite a good gag in Majora's Mask, but making him an unnecessary important character in Wind Waker to actually progress through the game... I was not amused.

Tidus and Wakka from FFX. Tidus, well, is a whinny ***** with daddy issues and Wakka, I just hated his voice.

Samus in Other M. Beating a dead horse here.

Cole in Gears of War. I. Hate. That. Guy.

Ashley. I didn't hesitated to get her killed in the first Mass Effect.

And that's pretty much all I can think of right now.

 

[mchoueiri]

Samus in other M.
Also Tidus. Dear god, Tidus.

And all other characters from Final Fantasy games

 

[Nieroshai]

Tidus from FFX
Or pretty much all FF heroes XD outside of maybe Zidane.

Did you even play 1-6? You know the series started before 7 right?

And Cecil WASN'T willing to give Golbez one of the four very keys to ruling the world to rescue his girlfriend? Sure it sounds romantic, but come on, did he really think the enemy would just let him walk away after gaining yet another piece of ultimate power? I don't see any plans to the effect of "how do we get her back and keep the crystal?" going on, just "You wanna trade? Okay!" I confess that's the part of the game I'm at so I haven't seen the conclusion, but Cecil gives every indication he's willing to make the trade knowing what the crystals do! I don't hate the game because of it, I'm just rolling my eyes at Cecil.

OT: it's really hard for me to really answer this question since I really can't find irredeemable characteristics in game characters in games I actually play. But I'd have to say... Silver the Hedgehog. Not only is he a blandly unemmbellished ripoff of DBZ's Trunks, he also had the buggiest gameplay and is the most forgettable of the Sonic cast. That's right, I think of Big the Cat as a more interesting character.

EDIT: I DO understand that in FF4 they were trying to go for the idea that Cecil would do anything to save Rosa, and also realize it was the offer of trade that revealed the tower's location, but no conspiring amongst the party members of trying to defeat Golbez and leave with the crystal? No indication of trying to achieve victory in any way? No struggling with his role as a paladin not to hand the world into his enemy's hands? I just feel that FF6 really shows better the humanity of characters and allowed them to show genuine heroism because of it. The point in the world of ruin where Terra leaves the orphans she promised to protect in order to take the fight to Kefka and end the danger is the shining example.

 

[Enigmatic Master]

Navi the stupid fairy from ocarina of time "hey, Listen" every five minutes shut up already

 

[Cridhe]

Tidus from FFX
Or pretty much all FF heroes XD outside of maybe Zidane.

Did you even play 1-6? You know the series started before 7 right?

And Cecil WASN'T willing to give Golbez one of the four very keys to ruling the world to rescue his girlfriend? Sure it sounds romantic, but come on, did he really think the enemy would just let him walk away after gaining yet another piece of ultimate power? I don't see any plans to the effect of "how do we get her back and keep the crystal?" going on, just "You wanna trade? Okay!" I confess that's the part of the game I'm at so I haven't seen the conclusion, but Cecil gives every indication he's willing to make the trade knowing what the crystals do! I don't hate the game because of it, I'm just rolling my eyes at Cecil.

OT: it's really hard for me to really answer this question since I really can't find irredeemable characteristics in game characters in games I actually play. But I'd have to say... Silver the Hedgehog. Not only is he a blandly unemmbellished ripoff of DBZ's Trunks, he also had the buggiest gameplay and is the most forgettable of the Sonic cast. That's right, I think of Big the Cat as a more interesting character.

Yeah 4 wasn't terribly complex story-wise but still far more likeable than the 3D gen versions. Cecil was a badass, so he had no reservations about it. Of course he was just gonna kick moon ass later.

How about 6? You know, the pinnacle of the FF series?

 

[Halceon]

Silent nameless military specialist #1-#bajillion.

 

[Nieroshai]

Tidus from FFX
Or pretty much all FF heroes XD outside of maybe Zidane.

Did you even play 1-6? You know the series started before 7 right?

And Cecil WASN'T willing to give Golbez one of the four very keys to ruling the world to rescue his girlfriend? Sure it sounds romantic, but come on, did he really think the enemy would just let him walk away after gaining yet another piece of ultimate power? I don't see any plans to the effect of "how do we get her back and keep the crystal?" going on, just "You wanna trade? Okay!" I confess that's the part of the game I'm at so I haven't seen the conclusion, but Cecil gives every indication he's willing to make the trade knowing what the crystals do! I don't hate the game because of it, I'm just rolling my eyes at Cecil.

OT: it's really hard for me to really answer this question since I really can't find irredeemable characteristics in game characters in games I actually play. But I'd have to say... Silver the Hedgehog. Not only is he a blandly unemmbellished ripoff of DBZ's Trunks, he also had the buggiest gameplay and is the most forgettable of the Sonic cast. That's right, I think of Big the Cat as a more interesting character.

Yeah 4 wasn't terribly complex story-wise but still far more likeable than the 3D gen versions. Cecil was a badass, so he had no reservations about it. Of course he was just gonna kick moon ass later.

How about 6? You know, the pinnacle of the FF series?

Read the edit I made to my reply and all will be explained. There were annoyances, but characters didn't just randomly pull flaws out of their asses mid-game. Sure characters can be flawed, but Tellah and Edward were the only characters who remotely had believable reasons to act as flawed as they did. Also, if you ask WHY you will get a wall of text, be warned, but I actually like Cloud and the ff7 compilation at large.

 

[justnotcricket]

Assuming you mean characters that make you feel bad/embarrassed about being identified as a gamer, I'd say characters like Duke Nukem and the girls that populate DoA are fairly good examples.

EDIT: I'm interested by all the hatred of Nathan Drake - he's never seemed so offensive to me; he's basically every self-deprecating modern American action hero all rolled into one, and no-one ever seems to complain about them. What about the huge tide of 'realistic' (space)marines spewing macho one-liners? At least Drake seems like he has a personality, even if it is a smartass one. Also, consider James Bond - he's the epitome of action heroes who make 'witty' quips and get away with the impossible and are totally perfect (and I mean the original movie James bond, not the most recent iterations) - *and* he's openly chauvinistic and a womaniser...and yet everyone thinks he's awesome. Why?

Note: I also like James Bond, and I can see the annoyacnes of Drake's *incessant* glibness, but really I don't see how Drake is worthy of *so* much ire?

<-- Genuinely curious

 

[Niccolo]

Jeeze, all this hate for Tidus...and we all know he's not the disgrace. Don't get me wrong, HE'S BAD but...he is not a disgrace, Oh NO NO NO. The real disgrace? THIS GUY, VAAN:

No reason for tagging along, no bearing on the plot (The last two were something Tidus ATLEAST had), no real motivation, annoying as shit, personality that's just all the worst parts of tidus put into one body..hell, the whole game could have gone on without him even being present. When you're left wandering 'what are you even doing in this game? JUST LEAVE!' You know you're a pretty big disgrace.

I have to agree with you there. FFXII was a terrible game, one that I only kept playing for that pirate dude and his Viera companion. But I really and truly spent most of the game wanting to stab Vaan repeatedly in the face.

But you know who I see as the most pathetic, disgraceful characters? Rivals. Those characters that up and appear out of nowhere to fight you for no good reason, frequently getting in the way when you're trying to get shit like save the goddamn world done.

 

[marcooos]

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I was legitimately disappointed that she survived my suicide mission. I'm not sure why, but there is something about her that just rubs me the wrong way massively; I refuse to ever use her in my party.

Thank god it's not just me. I despise her with a passion and i'm not sure why

 

[Tuesday Night Fever]

Also though I found the idea that despite you being a courier you don't know where a damn thing in the world is....I mean all that was ruined was your face when you got shot

I'm no doctor... but I was under the assumption that there was, y'know... stuff behind my face. I mean, it can't just be empty space, right?

Wait.

Don't answer that.

...Maybe Doc Mitchell sneezed or had a muscle spasm while trying to remove the bullet? "Whoopsie! Hope that wasn't anything important I just poked... Oh well, it's not like (s)he'll know the difference..."

 

[Chronologist]

Hammer from Fable 2 comes to mind. You escort her slow ass through a dungeon, beat the crap out of monsters, and she bitches about not being able to fight since she's a peaceful monk. Then, everything goes to hell and she decided to fight the antagonist of the game. A couple years later, in her last lines in the game, she blames the character for everything because he escorted her and was holding a weapon at the time. Her reasoning? "A Warrior goes looking for a fight. If you weren't there, none of this would have happened". I wanted to ask Theresa for my wish to be to go back in time and NOT save Hammer's ass in that dungeon. God she was annoying.

Also, EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER from Dance Central is a d*****-bag. It's really just picking your favorite flavor. I'm partial to the ascending-humanity-with-dance-and-motorcycles dude myself, since he's the only one who looks like he actually practices dancing in his spare time. Still, every single one of those characters is like a twisted stereotype of my age category ramped up several million levels of insulting, then given catch phrases and voices that make you want to find whoever designed those f*ckers and smash their head with your screen until the pain goes away in your soul.

 

[Brandon Lum]

Any marine from Reach.

Fuck those guys. Less uses than a DVD rewinder.

That's unfair... to the DVD rewinder.

I honestly barely noticed them in Reach, though. Mostly because they died so quickly. I think my damned hologram was tougher to kill than the marines...

It's not just personal dislike, it's actual gameplay issues. I got hit with friendly fire from my own marines because they felt that the wall two inches away was a greater threat than the elite forty yards away. With a rocket launcher.

 

[Smithburg]

Lara Croft and, Nathan Drake. Nathan Drake murders his fellow man in pursuit of shining antiquities from days long past. Lara does the same thing only she also murders animals and sometimes monsters, also for shiny antiquities. I think Lara is the worse character though since she offers male game-players partial nudity if they help her murder her archaeological rivals. What's that Lara? you'll take off your top and swim around a bit if I help you blingify your house? Alright!

As opposed to a multitude of other game characters who murder others for the sheer hell of it? At least in uncharted Drake doesn't kill anyone that isn't already trying to kill him. In the second one he's totally against bringing guns to the museum because they're just security guards and just doing their jobs. Whereas in GTA the main character runs over pedestrians because it's fun...

OT: Kratos, the man is a complete and utter asshole, killing for no reason half the time other then he's pissed, playing that game really irritated me. And I never really liked silent protagonists like Gordon Freeman, hell they just seem rude and breaks the feeling of being in the game when someone asks them a question and they just stand there and don't say anything.

 

[Audio]

Tingle from Zelda games
Big from Sonic Adventure.


HAaaaaate! D:<

 

[misterbobperson]

Zephyr from Resonance of Fate.
He's a phycho that you're supposed to like.