Characters that don't belong in the Brawl.

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Dultae

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All you people that can't tell Ike and Marth apart need to get your eyes checked. Seriously. It's NOT that hard.
 

Melty Blood

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Dultae said:
All you people that can't tell Ike and Marth apart need to get your eyes checked. Seriously. It's NOT that hard.
Quoted for teh truths, but maybe that's because I use Ike, and always switch his palette to something else.

Why get rid of wolf? I like wolf! If anything, get rid of falco. Clones are understandable, but making the same character to fill up another character slot is unacceptable.
 

Jumplion

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Melty Blood said:
Dultae said:
All you people that can't tell Ike and Marth apart need to get your eyes checked. Seriously. It's NOT that hard.
Quoted for teh truths, but maybe that's because I use Ike, and always switch his palette to something else.

Why get rid of wolf? I like wolf! If anything, get rid of falco. Clones are understandable, but making the same character to fill up another character slot is unacceptable.
If anything, Falco should stay. He was in Melee before, so why cut him for someone who's, as previously stated, a grey fox?
 

Sarrazon

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Ike - Don't get me wrong, I love Fire Emblem, but any of the lords from Rekka no Ken (or just Fire Emblem, if we're not worrying about the Japanese names) woulda been better. Eliwood, as he's Roy's dad, Lyn just because shes cool, or Hector if we wanted to keep with the blue haired thing.
Snake - Yeah, he had his roots on the NES, but still. He's the biggest blip in the system. Just doesn't seem right.
Gannondorf - As a falcon clone. Give him his sword for god's sakes.

That over with, a character I'd LIKE to see. Someone from Castlevania. Simon perhaps. Or if they needed villains, Dracula.
 

Swenglish

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Sonic. Everything related to SEGA these days feels cheap and B-rated, and that doesn't belong in a Smash Bros. title. I don't care if Nintendo is being nice to SEGA, letting them produce their crap to the Wii, can't they just let one game be pure Nintendo? Sure, Snake is in it, but you can't say anything bad about him. Besides, the first Metal Gear was released on the NES, so Snake has more Nintendo in him compared to Sonic.
 
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wolf is... ok... krystal would be better. falco needs to go, i only like his throwing reflecter just because it mixes things up but i didnt like him in melee and i dont like him much more in brawl

pokemon trainer is just a waste. squirtle is fast and thats it. pikachu is a must and jigglypuff is also. i didnt like lucario for a long time but im really beginning to like him now

ganondorf only needs a sword. thats it. like his forward A or some of his aerial moves.

why get rid of ROB? the game has not been out long enough (even in Japan) for people to say he's so terrible. tiers WILL change. hehe Olimar was one of the best additions in my opinion

toon link? ugh. he's fine i guess. i dont really have a problem with anyone except for falco and PKMN trainer. this game should not be loved in the same way melee was. wavedashing is gone for a reason... the game should be fun, not too serious
 

DaMunky89

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-Wolf should have replaced Falco, and should not be just another Fox clone. Also, it's massive BS that three characters are using the landmaster as their final smash. That feels like a cop out.
-Ganondorf should be there, and I agree with everyone on the sword.
-Lucario is garbage, I want my Mewtwo and Pichu. T.T
-Ike was unnecessary, get a mage or an archer from Fire Emblem in here. That'd be far cooler. There's already too many sword users in the game, and this isn't Soul Caliber.
-I'm actually surprised about R.O.B. I was kinda pissed they had space for him, but not for example Pichu, who was my Melee main, but the way he plays won me over.
-Sonic was a big letdown for me. He had an entire moveset in the Advance Battle games, but in this one all his specials are boring. We only need one spindash.
 

Necrohydra

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Jumplion said:
If anything, Falco should stay. He was in Melee before, so why cut him for someone who's, as previously stated, a grey fox?
Yep, we shouldn't change the line-up from melee. No sirree, don't you bother actually making different characters, just keep bringing back the same ones with one or two moves changed. Add one or two more so it feels new and different.

I feel that they did a better job of making characters feel different in this one. Even the "clones" don't feel so much of exact rip-offs this time around. However...

1. Falco - 3 characters with identical movesets and final smashes is unneccesary. I only say Falco because he plays more like fox than wolf does, in my opinion.

2. Chalk another one for a change in ganondorf. He has fought in human form for several Zelda games now - surely they could have done better than a palette-swapped falcon move set with some tweaks. Give him that sword, or heck, even the trident!

3. Marth should have been gone. Most all of the franchises represented have their most current versions of characters represented. There's TEN FE games. Marth's from the first and third. Surely, they could have put in a different FE hero, even one who used a sword. Lyn comes to mind...

And, um..that's it. I also agree with DaMunky, they should have put in a NON-sword user from FE.
 

nightmare_gorilla

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hey ike totally rocks and his moveset varies it up quite a bit from marth, i like them both, but they are for two totally different things, marth is a technical character where ike is a power character. roy was identical to marth so i'm glad they replaced him

i also disagree about the pokemon trainer, he's actually an original character and kind of interesting.

snake: has no business in this game and his moveset is designed to hang back and take pot shots at people, the kind of asshole behavior we usually frown upon in gaming.

jigglypuff: obvious reasons

toon link: a small link is really kind of pointless, i like link but come on we don't need two.

i thought wolf was an interesting change but falco is identical he can go away

i like the way ganondorf fights honestly but i understand the complaints.

olimar: why? he's useless, he sucks, he doesn't belong, get rid of him
 

Jumplion

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Necrohydra said:
Jumplion said:
If anything, Falco should stay. He was in Melee before, so why cut him for someone who's, as previously stated, a grey fox?
Yep, we shouldn't change the line-up from melee. No sirree, don't you bother actually making different characters, just keep bringing back the same ones with one or two moves changed. Add one or two more so it feels new and different.
No need to get all "Sarcastci Sam" everywhere

Honestly, if they replaced Falco with Wolf i wouldn't give a damn. It's that they put Wolf in, without cutting him. If they replaced either Falco or Wolf with Krystal or someone who isn't a pilot of an arwing, I wouldn't care, but to me, all of the starfox people are almost exactly identical with some minor differences in play-style.

Hell, replace Falco/Wolf with another bountyhunter from Metroid, where's the love for Samus's franchise?
 

Thaddeus

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I cannot fathom why they put these characters I don't like, don't understand or don't want to play as in games... but there they are nonetheless, mocking me. Oh sure, I can (and do) simply choose not play as them, but that doesn't stop their cold, unblinking eyes from boring holes into me from their haughty slots on the character select screen.

How can those stygian industry heads sleep, knowing as they do of the cruel fate they've thrust upon me? To play this game, I must be forcibly subjected to the untoward presence of characters I'll likely not use.

It's a mark on my soul that will fester, forever unhealed, until the Death's chill embrace finally frees me from the shame of it all.
 

Digital Baklava

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Can't believe nobody mentioned ice climbers.

A lousy, not particularly ground-breaking NES game? And implementing them as obnoxiously cute little squeaky guys in fuzzy brightly colored coats?
 

moderndayvampire

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Wolf O'Donnell. Maybe the fans adore him, but to everyone else, he's a grey Fox.
when i first saw wolf in brawl (i havent really played the games) i literaly asked my friend if that was a reall character or if they just made it up, and with a name like wolf you cant really blame me