Cheerleader must compensate school that told her to clap 'rapist'

[JMeganSnow]

Wait, if he did that, why would he still be going to the same school, much less outside the four walls of a prison? The man pleaded guilty, so we know he did it. So why didn't they try to get a restraining order? How big a deal would it have been for him to go to a different school?

If you actually READ THE ARTICLE (not that it's a particularly well-written article), you'll note that he pled guilty to a MISDEMEANOR assault charge--the charge of rape was dropped. Most misdemeanors don't carry a prison sentence, particularly for minors.

 

[Hive Mind]

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Oh. No. Mistakes are fine. Drop a cup? It's okay. Lock us out of the house? Oh well. It happens. Ruin my new shirt? Damn. It's okay though. Mistakes happen. You don't accidentally force someone to have sex with you, however. There is no 'opps'; it's a calculated choice. Hell, I'd gladly end the life of a rapist with my own hands. I see no foul in removing a flea from a dog.

I guess we must disagree.

That's why you're so narrow-minded on this topic. You don't consider the realities of human life. Rape often isn't so black and white. Life itself isn't black and white.

Who said anything about human life? I'm talking about exterminating rapists. No human loss there.

 

[DaWaffledude]

45'000? For not clapping? Are you effing serious? That's just... Despicable.

 

[Ursinedriver]

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Oh. No. Mistakes are fine. Drop a cup? It's okay. Lock us out of the house? Oh well. It happens. Ruin my new shirt? Damn. It's okay though. Mistakes happen. You don't accidentally force someone to have sex with you, however. There is no 'opps'; it's a calculated choice. Hell, I'd gladly end the life of a rapist with my own hands. I see no foul in removing a flea from a dog.

I guess we must disagree.

That's why you're so narrow-minded on this topic. You don't consider the realities of human life. Rape often isn't so black and white. Life itself isn't black and white.

Actually, of all the crimes there are, Rape is likely the most black and white of them (Assuming we're only defining rape as someone forcing someone else to have sex with them)

 

[Pyro Paul]

Also, He repaid his debt to society...
why is every one so keen on treating him like a no name criminal even after he did his time?

I find it indescribably sad that you think one can ever repay or repair the damage caused by rape. To pass it off so casually... 'Oh but he has made it up. Let him live a normal life.' Had he not taken from another what can never be returned; harmed another in a way that can never heal; if he had not acted like a plague infested wild dog, then perhaps one could be forgiven.

Rape is a crime that never leaves the victim. So to should it never leave the rapist, as their life is made more difficult for it. In that maybe we can find respite.

I hope your appalling attitude is caused not by arrogance or cold, callous indifference, but by simple disconnection -- that you nor anyone you care for has never had to experience the crime.

The love of my life was raped several times through out her childhood and teenage years. Infact, many people in my life are survivors of rape and sexual assault in varing degrees. but it isn't a disconnection to humanity or a callous indiffrence which makes me say this, it is justice.

something i have learn to dislike, and find it used so much so by individuals so emotionally biased about the subject, is applying the title 'victim'. It implies that they are weak, that they can not defend themselves, and that they should be given special concessions because they where taken advantage of. No individual i know of that has been raped ever acknowledges themselves as being the 'victim', infact my girlfriend becomes rather violent towards people that call her that.

the greatest thing most of these individuals ask for is not for the attackers suffering, not for their death, but for justice to be met. For the world to see what they did and for them to pay for their crimes.

As such, he did something wrong... he acknowledged it and stood up to it.
he was punished accordingly and repaid his debt to society.

to continually treat him as criminal is just wrong.

 

[superline51]

Ah, Texas. It's known as the National Bad Government Laboratory for a reason.

The next time those blowhards in Texas start talking secession, I say let 'em go.

Where is it known as the National Bad Government Laboratory?

 

[Hive Mind]

Also, He repaid his debt to society...
why is every one so keen on treating him like a no name criminal even after he did his time?

I find it indescribably sad that you think one can ever repay or repair the damage caused by rape. To pass it off so casually... 'Oh but he has made it up. Let him live a normal life.' Had he not taken from another what can never be returned; harmed another in a way that can never heal; if he had not acted like a plague infested wild dog, then perhaps one could be forgiven.

Rape is a crime that never leaves the victim. So to should it never leave the rapist, as their life is made more difficult for it. In that maybe we can find respite.

I hope your appalling attitude is caused not by arrogance or cold, callous indifference, but by simple disconnection -- that you nor anyone you care for has never had to experience the crime.

The love of my life was raped several times through out her childhood and teenage years. Infact, many people in my life are survivors of rape and sexual assault in varing degrees. but it isn't a disconnection to humanity or a callous indiffrence which makes me say this, it is justice.

something i have learn to dislike, and find it used so much so by individuals so emotionally biased about the subject, is applying the title 'victim'. It implies that they are weak, that they can not defend themselves, and that they should be given special concessions because they where taken advantage of. No individual i know of that has been raped ever acknowledges themselves as being the 'victim', infact my girlfriend becomes rather violent towards people that call her that.

the greatest thing most of these individuals ask for is not for the attackers suffering, not for their death, but for justice to be met. For the world to see what they did and for them to pay for their crimes.

As such, he did something wrong... he acknowledged it and stood up to it.
he was punished accordingly and repaid his debt to society.

to continually treat him as criminal is just wrong.

I guess we have different ideas of justice. To me, it isn't justice until he stops breathing.

 

[Pyro Paul]

Also, He repaid his debt to society...
why is every one so keen on treating him like a no name criminal even after he did his time?

I find it indescribably sad that you think one can ever repay or repair the damage caused by rape. To pass it off so casually... 'Oh but he has made it up. Let him live a normal life.' Had he not taken from another what can never be returned; harmed another in a way that can never heal; if he had not acted like a plague infested wild dog, then perhaps one could be forgiven.

Rape is a crime that never leaves the victim. So to should it never leave the rapist, as their life is made more difficult for it. In that maybe we can find respite.

I hope your appalling attitude is caused not by arrogance or cold, callous indifference, but by simple disconnection -- that you nor anyone you care for has never had to experience the crime.

The love of my life was raped several times through out her childhood and teenage years. Infact, many people in my life are survivors of rape and sexual assault in varing degrees. but it isn't a disconnection to humanity or a callous indiffrence which makes me say this, it is justice.

something i have learn to dislike, and find it used so much so by individuals so emotionally biased about the subject, is applying the title 'victim'. It implies that they are weak, that they can not defend themselves, and that they should be given special concessions because they where taken advantage of. No individual i know of that has been raped ever acknowledges themselves as being the 'victim', infact my girlfriend becomes rather violent towards people that call her that.

the greatest thing most of these individuals ask for is not for the attackers suffering, not for their death, but for justice to be met. For the world to see what they did and for them to pay for their crimes.

As such, he did something wrong... he acknowledged it and stood up to it.
he was punished accordingly and repaid his debt to society.

to continually treat him as criminal is just wrong.

I guess we have different ideas of justice. To me, it isn't justice until he stops breathing.

and what does that solve?

infact that kind of justice is more harmful then mine. it fuels a self distructive emotional torrents that feeds an agressive nature and rewards violent responces.

 

[Trolldor]

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Oh. No. Mistakes are fine. Drop a cup? It's okay. Lock us out of the house? Oh well. It happens. Ruin my new shirt? Damn. It's okay though. Mistakes happen. You don't accidentally force someone to have sex with you, however. There is no 'opps'; it's a calculated choice. Hell, I'd gladly end the life of a rapist with my own hands. I see no foul in removing a flea from a dog.

I guess we must disagree.

That's why you're so narrow-minded on this topic. You don't consider the realities of human life. Rape often isn't so black and white. Life itself isn't black and white.

Give me an example where consent would be ambiguous - and intoxication doesn't count. It's called "Informed consent" for a reason, they have to have a reasonable level of awareness to them.

 

[Timberwolf0924]

She is a cheerleader, it's her job to lead cheering. If I don't do my job then I get fired, if I don't want to do it, then why am I working there. She knows she was going to have to cheer for him when she decided to be a basketball cheerleader. Then they get rid of her for not doing what she's supposed to do and her parents who must be 'sue crazy' decided to make a few sextra (See what I did there) dollars and took them to court when the school had the right to teminate her. If a cheerleader cannot cheer with the rest of the team, or can't remember the corography (I know thats wrong) do they not get the boot?

Her parents deserve to pay that $45k and then some. If they continue to push it they need to pay more. Drop the subject and count your losses. Maybe the court system will count theirs and let it go also. If he raped her and the court dropped it then there wasn't the right evidence to push it through, either that or there was evidence against her that it wasn't what she wanted.. I bet she's a white chick who happened to be surrounded by black guys, drunk and what not. She didn't get raped, her dad found out and was upset so she cried rape and took them to court.

 

[Flaming Narwhal]

I would not pay. I would Gandhi that shit.

That's what I'd go for. Then if that didn't work, shit is on.

 

[ArchAngelKira]

Really?? *sigh* I think people a getting dumber in America sometimes, common sense isn't so common

 

[Hive Mind]

Also, He repaid his debt to society...
why is every one so keen on treating him like a no name criminal even after he did his time?

I find it indescribably sad that you think one can ever repay or repair the damage caused by rape. To pass it off so casually... 'Oh but he has made it up. Let him live a normal life.' Had he not taken from another what can never be returned; harmed another in a way that can never heal; if he had not acted like a plague infested wild dog, then perhaps one could be forgiven.

Rape is a crime that never leaves the victim. So to should it never leave the rapist, as their life is made more difficult for it. In that maybe we can find respite.

I hope your appalling attitude is caused not by arrogance or cold, callous indifference, but by simple disconnection -- that you nor anyone you care for has never had to experience the crime.

The love of my life was raped several times through out her childhood and teenage years. Infact, many people in my life are survivors of rape and sexual assault in varing degrees. but it isn't a disconnection to humanity or a callous indiffrence which makes me say this, it is justice.

something i have learn to dislike, and find it used so much so by individuals so emotionally biased about the subject, is applying the title 'victim'. It implies that they are weak, that they can not defend themselves, and that they should be given special concessions because they where taken advantage of. No individual i know of that has been raped ever acknowledges themselves as being the 'victim', infact my girlfriend becomes rather violent towards people that call her that.

the greatest thing most of these individuals ask for is not for the attackers suffering, not for their death, but for justice to be met. For the world to see what they did and for them to pay for their crimes.

As such, he did something wrong... he acknowledged it and stood up to it.
he was punished accordingly and repaid his debt to society.

to continually treat him as criminal is just wrong.

I guess we have different ideas of justice. To me, it isn't justice until he stops breathing.

and what does that solve?.

Their existence.

Would you flinch from removing a flea from a dog? Nor would I.

 

[Ursinedriver]

Words

While I agree that once someone has paid and repented for a crime, they should be treated no differently than anyone else, expecting such just goes against human nature. We as a species always look to the past to predict the future. Is it right? probably not. Is it going to stop? No. I say that to say this, if you commit a crime, chances are you'll be branded a criminal forever.

Also, a bit of an incensative question, but I always see the stat that 50% of rapes go unreported, but how could you possibly know that? If there unreported, then how do we know about them

 

[jumjalalabash]

The guy allegedly raped her. No real proof of this besides her claim of it. She should be kicked off the squad because she isn't cheering, thats the whole point of the squad. And she should pay money because thats how frivolous lawsuits work.

 

[cobra_ky]

i can understand why the school would not want a cheerleader making a point of not cheering for a particular student athlete. This was by no means a frivolous lawsuit, however, and it is patently ridiculous that the courts would order her to pay the school's legal costs. just have everyone pay their own attorneys and let the matter rest.

 

[pln9fos]

This is why I hate living in Texas, because I have to share the same few thousand square miles with these inbred hicks >_>

 

[Firehound]

Goodbye faith in humanity.

Spoiler: Contains strong language. Read at own risk.

Fucking stupid bastards in this world but these dicks take the shitty cake.

You still had some? HAHAHA. Seriously, How long?

Yeah, this is dumb shit, but it shows you that california isn't the only retarded part of the US.