Child suspended for his religious beliefs

[Seanchaidh]

Spoiler: If you want to read this whole argument over again, feel free

This sounds like some retard's way of getting attention for a dumbass religion that just caught on. "Noodly Appendage" Do they actually believe that this whole thing was created by damned noodles? Earth to idiots -- Noodles didn't exist in any pre-historic time.
OT: This kid is obviously just trying to get attention. I can imagine the dumb grin on his face as he stated his reason. He should have been suspended for longer.
Yes, go on, argue with me that Pastafarianism is the most awesome thing ever.
My opinion: It isn't.

You can't disprove the Flying Spaghetti Monster, so why are you arguing about it? You may just be wrong. But if you accept the touch of his noodly appendage, you could enjoy everlasting satiety.

But I DON'T accept the touch of "his noodly appendage", what will happen to me?

The touch of the Flying Spaghetti Monster will forever be absent from your life, which is truly the worst outcome one could imagine.

What about the people who DON'T drink beer?

Drink rum instead, obviously.

What about the people who DON'T want to spend an eternity looking at strippers?

... What?

What about the people who use proper words to describe their God's "things" (Noodly is not a word).

Transubstantiation wasn't a word either.

Oh, yeah, I don't think being touched by noodly appendages is a hobby of mine. Some people would call it being a "sexual predator". Just keep that in mind.

Silly man! That is why you must accept the touch of his noodly appendage. You don't gain the grace of God and everlasting life all the everlasting benefits that come from the touch of the Flying Spaghetti Monster without acceptance... and consent.

Trying to be the slightest bit serious here,

What about the people who DON'T drink beer?

Drink rum instead, obviously.

Rum is still alcoholic, and to the best of my knowledge, stronger than beer.

That's nice? It isn't beer.

What about the people who DON'T want to spend an eternity looking at strippers?

... What?

About that...yeah, some people actually have lives and don't need to PAY girls to like them.

Notice: no one's saying anything about paying anyone (other than you.) Your argument as well as your insult is entirely invalid.

What about the people who use proper words to describe their God's "things" (Noodly is not a word).

Transubstantiation wasn't a word either.

Then how come this dictionary here that recognizes spelling mistakes in an attempt to help improve English on this site shows that Transubstantiation is a correct word. It's in the dictionary evidently and therefore, a word, although it never actually happened. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transubstantiation

Do you really need an explanation of the past tense?

 

[thenumberthirteen]

I dressed as a Pirate to School on "Talk like a Pirate Day". There has been a lot of trouble over wearing religious clothes to School/Work. Especially veils and full length garments. You should be able to wear whatever you like irrespective of religion.

 

[A.A.K]

'ERE 'ERE
A pitcher of rum raised in his honour.

 

[wilted_orchid]

That's incredible, like actually. Rock on Pirate Kid.

I like the fact that "spagnostic" became a noun, just for that news topic.

 

[Soulkiller3]

pastafarianism is a religion. its original purpose was to basically show how retarded religion is. I keep reading about how some of you think that this religion is stupid when compared to other religions. I say you who say this don't really get it. religion is a lie, a big retarded lie. we don need it. it only serves to segregate humanity. smart people understand what pastafarianism is. it is a statement. about how retarded religion is.
ive been an avid follower of the flying spghetti monster for a long time now. people who wear anything to please any god are retarded(cause it dunnt exist, ya know). im sorry but can someone prove me wrong?

This.

People who are going "this is not a religion its stupid" Is the people Pastafarians are mocking, because Pastafarians makes as much sense as any other religion. The person, who started Pastafarians Bobby Henderson, did it as a protest agenst the decision by the Kansas State Board of Education to require the teaching of intelligent design.

Anyway schools should not teach religion, also should not teach sex education, this is the job of the perants, who seem to not want to take responsibility of what drops out of them.

 

[Uncompetative]

Uh...... i think the school did a good thing i mean who the hell goes to school dressed as a pirate?

Spoiler: Presumably it is ok for you to wear this kind of sick torture-celebrating jewellery...

 

[Skeleon]

People who are going "this is not a religion its stupid" Is the people Pastafarians are mocking, because Pastafarians makes as much sense as any other religion.

But the question is not whether it makes sense or not, it's whether he believes in it or not.
Only if he really believes in it would there be any reason to accomodate him.

 

[LeonLethality]

That student is a bloody hero. No, screw it, a messiah. I raise a flagon of ale in his honour!

R'amen.

hes the pastifarian pope ALL HAIL THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER

r'amen

 

[teutonicman]

That guy is awesome. The costume also gives me an idea for halloween.

 

[Xelanath]

People who are going "this is not a religion its stupid" Is the people Pastafarians are mocking, because Pastafarians makes as much sense as any other religion.

But the question is not whether it makes sense or not, it's whether he believes in it or not.
Only if he really believes in it would there be any reason to accomodate him.

And how are you supposed to find out for sure that anyone truly believes in the religion that they follow? I'm willing to bet that a high percentage of followers of the major religions don't, but they're not treated in the same way. Are you suggesting that we test every religious person in the world, and force every one who appears not to truly believe to renounce their faith? If not, the question of truly believing is irrelevant.

 

[Soulkiller3]

People who are going "this is not a religion its stupid" Is the people Pastafarians are mocking, because Pastafarians makes as much sense as any other religion.

But the question is not whether it makes sense or not, it's whether he believes in it or not.
Only if he really believes in it would there be any reason to accomodate him.

Does he believe that god is a spaghetti and meatballs monster, most likely no? But that is not what Pastafarians is about, believing in Pastafarians is more of a protest and a mock in the fact anything can be a religion if enough people believe in it, or it could be a way of saying you are an atheist, which in it self is a believe and if you want equal rights, you should be allowed to express in the same way other religions are allowed to.

 

[Skeleon]

I'm willing to bet that a high percentage of followers of the major religions don't, but they're not treated in the same way.

True, but those that don't really believe aren't the ones that demand wearing monks' robes or burqas or kippahs or whatever.

But that is not what Pastafarians is about, believing in Pastafarians is more of a protest and a mock in the fact anything can be a religion if enough people believe in it...

Right! You're saying it yourself, it's just mockery and not a belief. Why would I make any accomodations to somebody who doesn't really care about this crap? This guy doesn't feel the need to wear pirate clothing, he just does it to be an asshole. A real religious person's ideas might be just as ridiculous but if he really believes in them and wants to do them because of this faith, it's a different matter than just doing it to annoy others.

...or it could be a way of saying you are an atheist, which in it self is a believe and if you want equal rights, you should be allowed to express in the same way other religions are allowed to.

I'm an atheist myself and, no, this is not the way I want to represent my belief (or rather, lack-thereof). Pastafarianism is an alright joke and thought experiment in itself. It's funny, really. I even had the FSM as my desktop background for a while.
But when you start to rub it in people's faces like this idiot kid does, I get pissed. It's people like that who give atheists a bad name.

Also, no, religious people don't get free passes for everything they want to do due to their religion. If a Christian kid showed up wearing monks' robes or a girl in nun's clothing, they would be suspended, just like this kid in his pirate-outfit.
There are bounds of reason to religious expression, too, and what this kid did wouldn't even be okay if he really believed in the FSM (which he certainly doesn't anyway).

 

[The Kangaroo]

Problem there. Did you know that a raw onion actually tastes like an apple? It's just the smell that changes the flavor because smell makes up 70% of a food's taste, hence when you have a cold, you can't taste food. Well, just because it tastes like an apple, that doesn't make it an apple.
Beer that tastes like a strawberry milkshake, therefore, is still beer.

Touché

 

[Nieroshai]

Only issue: no pastafarian actually believes any of the regigion's teachings because it's a parody religion, so he wasn't suspended for his beliefs.
EDIT: I worship an obscure warrior-god. He commands that his disciples bear arms at all times. Miss Wood, I can bring a dagger to school if I want to, it's my religious right.

 

[The Kangaroo]

Only issue: no pastafarian actually believes any of the regigion's teachings because it's a parody religion, so he wasn't suspended for his beliefs.

(I'm getting sick of saying this) But what if it was what he believed?

 

[Hellenion]

Long live the FSM! In heaven we shall gather round the beer volcano and dance with the strippers of the mighty PASTA!!!!

On a more settling note, R'Amen.

 

[ReZerO]

By this logic, if I supported the nazi party I should not get suspended for wearing the arm thing with the symbol to school.

No because Nazism isn't a religion and it's offensive

It's a political belief.

Still offensive

Fine but I find women having to dress in those full body things because of the muslim religion offensive so they shouldn't be allowed to do it......by your logic.

Why not

Well, if I were to make up a religion where the Nazi party is a group of divine angels, and that I should where full Nazi attire where ever I go, I shouldn't be allowed to because it's offensive to many people. After all, Hitler killed thousands of innocent people right? You could go as far as to say that pirates robbed and killed thousands of innocent people too, what if I'm offended by that? Besides, deep down you know the kid doesn't really believe in this religion, you know he just wanted attention and to dress up as a pirate.

that's a fair argument, but i believe that you forgot one aspect. NAZI symbolism was and is used to incite hate/ hate crimes. as far as i can tell a pirate costume never has been. That is what makes the differance between the two, freedom of expression ends where inciting hate begins.

 

[kingofbaseball27]

This kid is fucking sweet let him do what he wants

 

[Soulkiller3]

But that is not what Pastafarians is about, believing in Pastafarians is more of a protest and a mock in the fact anything can be a religion if enough people believe in it...

Right! You're saying it yourself, it's just mockery and not a belief. Why would I make any accomodations to somebody who doesn't really care about this crap? This guy doesn't feel the need to wear pirate clothing, he just does it to be an asshole. A real religious person's ideas might be just as ridiculous but if he really believes in them and wants to do them because of this faith, it's a different matter than just doing it to annoy others.

It is a belief becouse of what it stands for, and people do care for this crap. its not about one kid in high school its about people dressing to exspress there beliefs, and if one group is allowed to do it, why cant another group?

You are questoning the belief (which cant be done) am questioning "if one group is allowed to why cant another?"