Chivalry is dead. And wymen/womyn killed it.

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Dele

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Erana said:
Femenism ironically means that one believes that men and women should be equal.

More importantly, our society has only allowed us equal opportunity to play the game. To win the game, one must be an economically-aggressive white male.

We are leagues away from changing the rules of the game as a people, and that saddens me.
Sorry to jump a little off-topic here but what exactly is "winning the game"? I thought this was an open-ended game where you can set your own goals.
 

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Q. How many feminists does it take to change a light bulb?
A. I don't know, I'm too afraid to ask if she needs help.
 

Lord Krunk

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lenin_117 said:
Q. How many feminists does it take to change a light bulb?
A. I don't know, I'm too afraid to ask if she needs help.
I'm afraid to say that I laughed, there.

No offence to anyone, but as I mentioned before, women are pretty much equal already. Now feminism borders between supremacy and arrogance.

EDIT: Well, over here it is.
 

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Yes! I have achieved LOL! I AM A GOD! But seriously, I haven't seen too much psycho-femenism personally and until they figure out how to open tightly sealed jars, reach the super-high shelves and learn basic lumberjacking/carpentry then they shouldn't complain when men try to help.
 

Erana

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Dele said:
Sorry to jump a little off-topic here but what exactly is "winning the game"? I thought this was an open-ended game where you can set your own goals.
True, people get to set their own goals in life, but the social ideas of achievement is to be a CEO, or to be a Physician. Its a matter of prestige,(hand in hand with power and money) and how it is distributed, in my opinion, unfairly.

Lord Krunk said:
I'm afraid to say that I laughed, there.

No offence to anyone, but as I mentioned before, women are pretty much equal already. Now feminism borders between supremacy and arrogance.

EDIT: Well, over here it is.
Where are you? I somehow doubt any true equality.
I would be delighted if you were to prove me wrong.
 

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Erana said:
Dele said:
Sorry to jump a little off-topic here but what exactly is "winning the game"? I thought this was an open-ended game where you can set your own goals.
True, people get to set their own goals in life, but the social ideas of achievement is to be a CEO, or to be a Physician. Its a matter of prestige,(hand in hand with power and money) and how it is distributed, in my opinion, unfairly.

Lord Krunk said:
I'm afraid to say that I laughed, there.

No offence to anyone, but as I mentioned before, women are pretty much equal already. Now feminism borders between supremacy and arrogance.

EDIT: Well, over here it is.
Where are you? I somehow doubt any true equality.
I would be delighted if you were to prove me wrong.
Well where I live we got female president, ex-female PM, female quotas on everything possible (grr), difference between wages is 0-4% and men are drafted to army so I'd say atleast money-wise women are prettymuch equal (just add extra years of pension funds too due longer lifespan).
 

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And where it isn't self-imposed... Here in Australia they want to force companies to pay maternity leave (I should mention women dominated industries which DO EXIST! all ready pay maternity leave and those that don't in a sexist move expect men to support women) this WILL result in sexist recruiting policies for small companies who simply can not afford to pay this, say you hire 2 women and they both fall pregnant. Suddenly your new company that is barely breaking water has to pay two employees for no work whatsoever and has to hire another two to fill their positions and if you survive those 9 months good luck trying to fit those two women back into the roster. Paid maternity leave is a GREAT thing, I'm not debating it I'm simply stating that it is one of the few things that will give rise to true sexism from males on to females... Or heck even females would be hesitant to hire women.
I had to quote this because I have quite a qualm against paid maternity leave. In theory it has a purpose, which I offer my support however the current execution of this practice is absolutely atrocious; nine months paid leave? Are you kidding me? Two, maybe three at the most and this includes after the child is born. Some women today have taken nigh two years leave, leaving the company to pay wages for an essentially unemployed worker.

It has become ridiculous, especially considering now the Government is taxing the populous ? in Canada at least ? to pay for in my opinion are leave people taking advantage of the system. My mother took a total of four weeks during her pregnancy; yes she worked on the actually day before going to the hospital and only remained home for four weeks following before she was back working. Now I am willing to admit this is a rarity and settle on a longer portion of maternity leave, however anything beyond two months is general laziness.

Do not cite me that nonsense of a mother deserves to be able to send time with her child because she is freely able to do so should she choose, just not on someone else?s dollar.
 

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Erana said:
Lord Krunk said:
I'm afraid to say that I laughed, there.

No offence to anyone, but as I mentioned before, women are pretty much equal already. Now feminism borders between supremacy and arrogance.

EDIT: Well, over here it is.
Where are you? I somehow doubt any true equality.
I would be delighted if you were to prove me wrong.
Australia, and I agree, there isn't much equality. Now women have bonus rights, along with anyone who isn't a white heterosexual male (which I happen to be). I support equality, but the way I see it, the guys upstairs aren't using the right approach.

As you mentioned before, women over where you live don't get as much pay as men do. I don't know where you live, but I suggest you move out. Over here, anyone who would even think of doing that would get sued into oblivion.
 

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The stats for women getting paid less are, acording to three academics in two seperate continents, skewed to a degree by the fact that on average a sizeable proportion of women will leave work and raise their children. While this is not all women, it is a sizeable enough proportion of women to warp the stats moderately.
 

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Cheeze_Pavilion said:
In a Hunter Gatherer Society women are respected and occasionally deified. Men Hunt, Women Gather, Children are largely raised in a tribal commune, hence what is good for the tribe is good for your offspring etc.
Not true, actually. Women did a great deal of hunting with nets.
Hmm, would this be a good time to mention that fossil bone analysis of our ancient ancestors show that although some female skeletons showed hunting type bone wounds, all wounds on females of child bearing age were shown to be 'old' wounds i.e. wounds that had healed and were therefore not fatal. no female skeleton of child bearing age (12-14 and upwards) has been found with 'fresh' bone wounds i.e. MORTAL wounds.
This strongly suggests that although young girls may have participated in some form of hunting, girls of a fertile age most definitely did NOT. (lets face it a fertile womb is more important to the survival of the species than a fertile pair of testicles!)
 

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Erana said:
Femenism ironically means that one believes that men and women should be equal.

More importantly, our society has only allowed us equal opportunity to play the game. To win the game, one must be an economically-aggressive white male.

We are leagues away from changing the rules of the game as a people, and that saddens me.
I don't at all mean to be rude, but I lol'ed. This is, ironically, the kind of archaic thinking that is dragging us down not just as men or women, but as a society.

Protip: I have not figured out how to hotlink just yet, so the links are of the "copy paste into your browser" flavour.

Fact 1: Men are more likely to be a victim of a violent crime. I don't exactly know what you meant by "the game", but if by "the game" you mean "everyday life" I would say this puts you ahead of the curve. Source: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/sdvv.pdf

Fact 2: There are half again as many women as men in college. If by "the game" you mean "receiving an education to pave the road for further success" it would seem your gender is ahead. Source: http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2007-09-12-census-college-enrollment_N.htm

Fact 3: Saying that men earn more than women only takes into account the median yearly wage of the two genders. Women are actually paid the exact same wage as men, and what most people neglect to mention is that men are very predominantly hired for more dangerous work (danger pay) and are statistically more willing to relocate.

Fact 4: Those ridiculous statements that "95% of domestic abuse is directed against the woman (or womyn)" are quite simply false. Source: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/11/071109210657.htm

And I'll just leave this right here. http://www.musc.edu/vawprevention/lesbianrx/factsheet.shtml

Fact 5: Have you ever heard that statement that men receive far better healthcare than women? It's a lie, ladies and gentlemen. http://obf.cancer.gov/financial/attachments/06Factbk.pdf

If you don't feel like perusing that PDF, what it says is that almost twice as much money was spent on breast cancer research than prostate cancer research - despite the fact that in 2007 about 100,000 more cases of prostate cancer were diagnosed than breast cancer.

Just some food for thought.
 

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More importantly, our society has only allowed us equal opportunity to play the game. To win the game, one must be an economically-aggressive white male.
........I was just in a hospital yesterday and saw a ton of female doctors and surgeons, we have a black president-elect right now.
If one of them hasn't won the game in your mind then I'd like to see the rules for this game.

Also, feminism is fine, feminazisism is not. Supporters the latter deserve to be slammed into brick walls repeatedly until their tiny insignificant brains come out. The former are perfectly human beings.

And, as long as the government is still able to draft(aka:fuck up your life whenever they feel like it) and females don't have to go in case of the draft I'm saying the government gives them an advantage.
 

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I don't know what you're talking about. Apparently chivalry is still alive where I live. I'm not joking. I do the whole chivalry thing without thinking about it and am held in very high esteem with my female colleagues.
 

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There is nothing wrong with believing in equal rights, but feminists don't.
Really? That's news to me and I've been a feminist for 20 years now.

They want to take everything men have that doesn't effect them and ruin it. Urinals have been banned on countless college campuses because it's sexists that men stand up to pee I'm not lying go google it it's more common than you'd think.
I did and found nothing. Please post a list of the colleges that have done this or at least a link where I can find this information myself.

Having manors means you're nicer to women if she doesn't want your kind gesture then slam the door in her face and call her a dirty name treat her like any man who pissed you off would.
I assume this is the holding-the-door argument. I want anyone at all who as ever, really, honestly had a woman get up in their face just because they held the door open, to tell me about it, because no feminist I have ever known, and I've known lots of them, has ever done this. And I mean, I want to know if this happened to you, not your friend or someone you heard about, because that's how every urban legend starts, right? "I had this friend who..." And this tale of the door-raging feminist is so common and yet so unsubstantiated as to approach the status of urban legend.

Yes, if a woman actually does get all up in your face and cuss you out for holding the door, then as a feminist I heartily encourage you to treat her just as you would a man, and cuss her right back. I assure you that as a feminist, if any woman does that to a man in my presence in the name of feminism, that man will probably never get a chance to say anything to her because I will start cussing her out myself before he gets his mouth open.

I could honestly give a shit about doors. Today, some guy yelled at me, "Hey, you in the red, what's your name?" and when I just kept on walking, he yelled at me and called me a *****. That's not hypothetical, that's not an if-it-ever-happens, that's something that has happened to me TODAY, that has happened to me so many times I can't even begin to count them all. I don't want your urinals, that's ridiculous. I want to to be able to walk down the street without some hooting dickhole thinking that, because I'm female, I owe him my time and attention.

Yeah, I know. "You shouldn't stereotype all guys just because one guy yelled at you." First of all, I know that not all guys would do that. But a lot of guys have done that, to me and to every woman I know. A lot of guys do that all the time. And I wasn't dressed sexy, I wasn't looking for attention. I'm a 39-year-old woman in a winter coat for fuck's sake. So I'll make a bargain with you. I will stick up for every guy who ever encounters one of your hypothetical bitchy feminists just because he opened a door, if you stick up for every woman who gets leered at and and cussed out by some jackass just because she walked down the street minding her own business.
 

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Some people are rude, some people are stupid, men, women, children are all capable of being arrogant/rude/annoying. You can't blame a particular gender/race because everyone is different, if that person is stupid then hurray for them hope it bites them in the ass later, but I can't ever blame a race/gender for anything in grouping.
 

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if you don't stand up out of your seat on the bus when a woman boards you are a SOCIOPATH
 

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mshcherbatskaya said:
I assume this is the holding-the-door argument. I want anyone at all who as ever, really, honestly had a woman get up in their face just because they held the door open, to tell me about it, because no feminist I have ever known, and I've known lots of them, has ever done this. And I mean, I want to know if this happened to you, not your friend or someone you heard about, because that's how every urban legend starts, right? "I had this friend who..." And this tale of the door-raging feminist is so common and yet so unsubstantiated as to approach the status of urban legend.
http://www.illwillpress.com/door22.html

I believe the cartoon squirrel ruins your point.
I realize that I am posting someone else's work about it but it's that person raging about what happened to himself. I've never had it happen because the only situation in which I can actually ever hold the door for someone is at my job, and at my job I hardly go through any doors. I don't go out a lot to public places.